Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Coollaboratory Liquid Pro was the best as far as temps go? I have a little leftover and was thinking of going with this for my 870. Certainly is a pain in the you know what to apply though..
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The condition of the heat sink makes a much bigger difference than the paste. I wouldn't get hung up on it.
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Thermal paste applied correctly is a pretty big deal, especially if you are going to be over clocking.
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Well, all i can say is my NP8690 (Clevo W860CU) with the 5870 is ordered and shipping this coming Friday, due for delivery on Monday. So maybe im a dumb dumb for not waiting for something better.
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Whether to buy now or not depends HUGELY upon what you are currently using and how long you are willing to wait to get something newer / better. It seems to me that a lot of people in this thread are debating about whether they should get the 5870 now or wait for something from nVidia to come out. What you have to realize is that a lot of these people already have a great notebook already (like an Alienware m15x with a 260m) and they are wondering if it's worth it to upgrade now or later. That's a totally different thing than a person who doesn't already own a gaming laptop (like me) buying their first. For a new buyer (like me), I think it's a great time to buy - the processers will be current for at least another 1.5 years and the graphics card is brand new, DX11, best on the market, with nothing even announced to challenge it. The only "upgrade" I could see myself really missing in the next year or so, may be a 3D screen, but it might be a long time before they do 3D in a 15.6: 1920x1080 screen so I think I'll be happy with this laptop for a while. As for someone who's already got a laptop with a 280m graphics card...ya, it might be worth it to wait 6 months to see what nVidia brings to the table instead of paying $500 or whatever it costs to do an upgrade to the 5870. -
Dude, i dont know anyone that is excited about a 3d screen......other than that, im one of the people with a nice note book with a 360GTX thats upgrading (Asus G51), Of course im giving it to my gf to game on, but none the less. Also, These Sager/Clevos are some what upgradeable....so you can still get the newst GPU if you fancy.
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3D could be revolutionary. It might really change the experience. A better graphics cards just means you can turn a few settings up a notch or two and in my opinion, isn't as big of a deal. But that killer 3D app has yet to arrive and right now I am happy with my NP8690 purchase. -
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Going to order a sager 8690 with 5870 soon, now deciding on whether to go for the i7 720 or 820, the i7 820 upgrade is quite attractive since it's only around $200 more compared to Asus's $500 more which is the only thing that gave it an advantage over asus G73 spec/value wise.
I'm wondering if 820 has significant advantages over the 720, I know that even though the clock increase is small, but there's a higher turbo boost factor, I would also want to know if the 2mb more of L3 cache would improve performance, and what kind of applications is the performance increase the largest.
I understand that CPU is not a bottleneck in gaming, but I don't just game, I mainly do 3D modeling, graphics programming etc game development area applications, that's the main reason I'm taking 5870 over 285 for the directx 11. How much would the CPU upgrade benefit in these areas? A 10-15% speed increase would be enough make the deal for me on the upgrade to 820. -
Well I ordered my Sager NP8690 from XoticPC about an hour or two ago. I'm pretty excited! These are the specs:
i7-720QM
4GB DDR 1333MHz RAM
320GB 7200RPM HDD
ATI 5870 gpu
1920x1080 monitor Resolution upgrade
I bought this thing for school use + gaming, no 3D modeling or anything like that. After researching the differences between the i7 720 and 820 I decided just to get the 720, even though on paper the 820 looks well worth the extra $190. This is the source that answered most of my questions, the gaming performance.
http://www.notebookjournal.de/praxis/intel-core-i7-720qm-820qm-920xm-nkmo-114/3
You can translate it from German to English with Google translator if you want to read the actual material if you want, but that gives some nice info if you are looking at comparing gaming performance. The one thing though is that was recorded with the GTX260m and not the 5870 so maybe the CPU will be the bottleneck with the 5870? Doubtful, but I'm not sure.
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how much is 1 item of the ati card 5870 mobility ?
from where can I is purchase this 5870 mobility the card ?
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I'm not sure as I didn't purchase the 5870 separately, but hilariously the 5870 was $55 USD cheaper than the GTX285m.
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Honestly i believe mobile fermi is still aways off .... Id love to be wrong on that and hopefully i am as i would like to throw one in the 8760 at some point but i wont hold my breath on that one...
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i sure hope they release the mobile version of fermi on their announcement day too ...
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Guys, Couple pages ago two of you mentioned that asus with HD5870 is crap, unreliable or buggy. Can anyone of you please send me a thread with concrete problems? I cant find in owners lounge between hundreds of posts these bad experiences.
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I think they meant not that the HD5870 is crap, but the G73 is. Well, rather not that it's crap per se, but that the build quality seems to be very uneven. If you get a good unit, you have a good unit, but a lot of units seem to have problems.
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Well any issues there as of now are isolated to Asus since they are unique.
The make every thing in the laptop from the gpu to the mobo. With the pricces that they offer it at one has to assumme the quality of components leaves something to be desired.
Speculation here but it makes sense
I had the machine and loved it. It ran perfect until it died...but that's life. Some cucumbers don't cut it and get turned into pickles. -
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Mandrake, love the pick
Are you really sheldon?
ONTOPIC: placing my order now
Going to go for:
920XM (OC here I come!) <--- OCing the 920 IS indeed possible on the NP8760 right? Would be stupid getting the 920 otherwise..
8gigs of ram
1 160gb SSD
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Hey guys, don't tell him until after it ships out.
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Ordered last week and waiting for them to start shipping.
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Summary:
1.) GPU dies causing bars on the screen or lock ups
2.) All 8gb of ram not showing up in Windows or Bios
3.) Keyboard flexing and delays in typing
4.) LCD panel dying/going black
The problems are not widespread, but there are numerous reports of the keyboard delay and gpu issues. I had an X1 model from newegg and out of the box the GPU kept crashing and would lock up the laptop.
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Well good luck!
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Is it just me or does this seem to be turning into an ASUS questions and answers thread
Mandrake they are amazing 3DMark06 scores !! I know the 5870 is a better synthetic performer but wow! I think I can just about reach high 11K maybe top 12k if im lucky.
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I think Mandrake would be the first to admit that 3d mark 06 is very CPU biased you will never get near his score running a stock 720 vs his OCed 920
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Oh, I wasn't aware I thought it was a mixed bag
Ye my i7-720QM weakling would never beat hid behemoth. Plus the card which is about 600 points extra than what the 285M gets.
Does anyone have CLEVO with HD5870 ?
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by AndrewKW, Feb 26, 2010.