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    Does anyone have CLEVO with HD5870 ?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by AndrewKW, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. rancid

    rancid Notebook Evangelist

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Coollaboratory Liquid Pro was the best as far as temps go? I have a little leftover and was thinking of going with this for my 870. Certainly is a pain in the you know what to apply though..
     
  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The condition of the heat sink makes a much bigger difference than the paste. I wouldn't get hung up on it.
     
  3. sleey0

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    That is why I don't bother. That and the price.
     
  4. steadfast9661

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    Thermal paste applied correctly is a pretty big deal, especially if you are going to be over clocking.
     
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    Yes, application is more important than which brand.
     
  6. Kevin

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    Don't quote me on this either, but it had something to do with the bug-ridden 3870s, come the launch of the M860TU and M570TU, which caused delay and order cancellations. It was the much cheaper option to the also available 9800M GT, and there was a lot of disappointment.

    And thus, the myth was born.
     
  7. steadfast9661

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    Well, all i can say is my NP8690 (Clevo W860CU) with the 5870 is ordered and shipping this coming Friday, due for delivery on Monday. So maybe im a dumb dumb for not waiting for something better.
     
  8. IKAS V

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    This is the best you can get right now.The thing is how long do you want to wait for the next biggest and best GPU. You will not be dissapointed getting the 5870 .
     
  9. sjwpwrpro

    sjwpwrpro Newbie

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    I have not recieved it yet I just ordered it, it should get here hopefully within 2 weeks(3-7 days for building and testing and a few days for shipping). If no one else has answered your questions by the time I get it I will let you know.
     
  10. Qaenos

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    I ordered today too. Mine should be shipping Monday and arriving no later than Friday.

    Whether to buy now or not depends HUGELY upon what you are currently using and how long you are willing to wait to get something newer / better. It seems to me that a lot of people in this thread are debating about whether they should get the 5870 now or wait for something from nVidia to come out. What you have to realize is that a lot of these people already have a great notebook already (like an Alienware m15x with a 260m) and they are wondering if it's worth it to upgrade now or later. That's a totally different thing than a person who doesn't already own a gaming laptop (like me) buying their first. For a new buyer (like me), I think it's a great time to buy - the processers will be current for at least another 1.5 years and the graphics card is brand new, DX11, best on the market, with nothing even announced to challenge it. The only "upgrade" I could see myself really missing in the next year or so, may be a 3D screen, but it might be a long time before they do 3D in a 15.6: 1920x1080 screen so I think I'll be happy with this laptop for a while. As for someone who's already got a laptop with a 280m graphics card...ya, it might be worth it to wait 6 months to see what nVidia brings to the table instead of paying $500 or whatever it costs to do an upgrade to the 5870.
     
  11. steadfast9661

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    Dude, i dont know anyone that is excited about a 3d screen......other than that, im one of the people with a nice note book with a 360GTX thats upgrading (Asus G51), Of course im giving it to my gf to game on, but none the less. Also, These Sager/Clevos are some what upgradeable....so you can still get the newst GPU if you fancy.
     
  12. Qaenos

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    I'm not that excited about the 3D screen - yet. That's why I bought now. I'm wondering, though, if by next year, there will be some killer games / movies in 3D that will make me wish my screen was 3D. The consumer electronics industry is starting to push 3D really hard so I'm curious as to what's going to come out of it.

    3D could be revolutionary. It might really change the experience. A better graphics cards just means you can turn a few settings up a notch or two and in my opinion, isn't as big of a deal. But that killer 3D app has yet to arrive and right now I am happy with my NP8690 purchase.
     
  13. Rhulk

    Rhulk Notebook Guru

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    Was interested in the Sager w/5870 card . . . so found this thread . . . and OMG, love the avatar fluffyuk! CITY! I thought I would fall over Saturday!
     
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    Going to order a sager 8690 with 5870 soon, now deciding on whether to go for the i7 720 or 820, the i7 820 upgrade is quite attractive since it's only around $200 more compared to Asus's $500 more which is the only thing that gave it an advantage over asus G73 spec/value wise.

    I'm wondering if 820 has significant advantages over the 720, I know that even though the clock increase is small, but there's a higher turbo boost factor, I would also want to know if the 2mb more of L3 cache would improve performance, and what kind of applications is the performance increase the largest.

    I understand that CPU is not a bottleneck in gaming, but I don't just game, I mainly do 3D modeling, graphics programming etc game development area applications, that's the main reason I'm taking 5870 over 285 for the directx 11. How much would the CPU upgrade benefit in these areas? A 10-15% speed increase would be enough make the deal for me on the upgrade to 820.
     
  15. coLdduff

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    Well I ordered my Sager NP8690 from XoticPC about an hour or two ago. I'm pretty excited! These are the specs:

    i7-720QM
    4GB DDR 1333MHz RAM
    320GB 7200RPM HDD
    ATI 5870 gpu :D :) :D :)
    1920x1080 monitor Resolution upgrade

    I bought this thing for school use + gaming, no 3D modeling or anything like that. After researching the differences between the i7 720 and 820 I decided just to get the 720, even though on paper the 820 looks well worth the extra $190. This is the source that answered most of my questions, the gaming performance.

    http://www.notebookjournal.de/praxis/intel-core-i7-720qm-820qm-920xm-nkmo-114/3

    You can translate it from German to English with Google translator if you want to read the actual material if you want, but that gives some nice info if you are looking at comparing gaming performance. The one thing though is that was recorded with the GTX260m and not the 5870 so maybe the CPU will be the bottleneck with the 5870? Doubtful, but I'm not sure.


    Hope this helps.
     
  16. Rogue Tardis

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    how much is 1 item of the ati card 5870 mobility ?

    from where can I is purchase this 5870 mobility the card ?

    :)
     
  17. coLdduff

    coLdduff Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm not sure as I didn't purchase the 5870 separately, but hilariously the 5870 was $55 USD cheaper than the GTX285m.
     
  18. Quadzilla

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    RJtech should be selling the card by itself i think Sleey0 said next week ... I would just send them off an email...

    http://rjtech.com
     
  19. Rogue Tardis

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    may i please ask how much is the gtx285m card then ?

    :confused:
     
  20. IKAS V

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    From RJTech the 285M GTX is $490.00
    So i'll guess the HD 5870 will go for $440.00/$450.00
     
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    any idea if this card will make it to the D900F ?

    :confused:
     
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    Honestly im not sure... I know others have asked the same thing but i have not seen anything indicating it was coming to that machine... It seems like a simple thing to add but that does not always mean it will :(...
     
  25. IKAS V

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    Top of the line stuff so you want the power you gotta pay!
     
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    Yes notebook video cards are certainly not cheap...
     
  27. Rogue Tardis

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    well time for nvidia to press on the gas paddle with fermi on the D900F then ...

    maybe ati or sager will get their act together ...
     
  28. Quadzilla

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    Honestly i believe mobile fermi is still aways off .... Id love to be wrong on that and hopefully i am as i would like to throw one in the 8760 at some point but i wont hold my breath on that one :)...
     
  29. Rogue Tardis

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    well didnt I hear that nvidia is about to make some major announcement on their up and coming ground shaking product ???

    i sure hope they release the mobile version of fermi on their announcement day too ...

    :)
     
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    Is that big announcement just Fermi Desktop or is it something else altogether that i overlooked ?..


    I figure its just Desktop Cards because i dont think ive seen any benchmarks from Fermi yet or anything of that sort so i assume thats the big one ?..
     
  31. AndrewKW

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    Guys, Couple pages ago two of you mentioned that asus with HD5870 is crap, unreliable or buggy. Can anyone of you please send me a thread with concrete problems? I cant find in owners lounge between hundreds of posts these bad experiences.

    Thank you in advance
     
  32. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    love to see where they said that ....

    All i have found are benchmarks of crysis on VERY HIGH and Vantage GPU scores of 9200 on the GPU
     
  33. Judicator

    Judicator Judged and found wanting.

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    I think they meant not that the HD5870 is crap, but the G73 is. Well, rather not that it's crap per se, but that the build quality seems to be very uneven. If you get a good unit, you have a good unit, but a lot of units seem to have problems.
     
  34. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Well any issues there as of now are isolated to Asus since they are unique.

    The make every thing in the laptop from the gpu to the mobo. With the pricces that they offer it at one has to assumme the quality of components leaves something to be desired.

    Speculation here but it makes sense ;)

    I had the machine and loved it. It ran perfect until it died...but that's life. Some cucumbers don't cut it and get turned into pickles.
     
  35. Mandrake

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    If it helps any mine is running fine. I'm close to hitting 17K in 3DMark06 with it and I can get P20K+ with the CPU score in Vantage without the PhysX cheat. ;)
     
  36. Eriand

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    Mandrake, love the pick ;)

    Are you really sheldon? :eek:


    ONTOPIC: placing my order now :)

    Going to go for:

    920XM (OC here I come!) <--- OCing the 920 IS indeed possible on the NP8760 right? Would be stupid getting the 920 otherwise..
    8gigs of ram
    1 160gb SSD
    1 500gb 7200 HDD
    5870

    Good :)
     
  37. Soviet Sunrise

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    Hey guys, don't tell him until after it ships out.
     
  38. PunkahJr

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    I am. :)

    Ordered last week and waiting for them to start shipping.

    I'm getting the W860 though. Completely barebones.

    Wonder when they're actually going to start shipping them. :confused:
     
  39. AndrewKW

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    I ment G73 not HD5870 - my fault. What problems specifically are you talking about?? Please post a link with user's problems or whatever is it with Asus G73. Thanks !
     
  40. AndrewKW

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    What happened with your laptop? Everyone here mentioned "something" is bad about this G73, i would LOVE to read what exactly happened to your laptop or anyone else's one concretely - I dont even know if this word exists :D
     
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    ummm, no.


    You'll have to let us know about the OC'ing. I wonder if it's the same bios that was released for the 285M.....if so then no, at least not by increasing the bin. In general Clevo systems aren't the best for OC'ing. That's pretty much the reason why I stuck with the G73.
     
  42. rancid

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    LOL, so mean :D
     
  43. rancid

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    Why not go look in the G73 owner's thread?

    Summary:

    1.) GPU dies causing bars on the screen or lock ups
    2.) All 8gb of ram not showing up in Windows or Bios
    3.) Keyboard flexing and delays in typing
    4.) LCD panel dying/going black

    The problems are not widespread, but there are numerous reports of the keyboard delay and gpu issues. I had an X1 model from newegg and out of the box the GPU kept crashing and would lock up the laptop.

    Back to the Clevo thread.. I pulled the trigger on an 870CU from RJ last night.
     
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    Bah, it's come to the point where I don't care :p

    I'm buying it anyways, will let you all know when it arrives how it goes :)
     
  45. fluffyuk

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    Thank man, much appreciate it, nice to see a fellow blue about the place, Ye suck on that Chelsea!
     
  46. IKAS V

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    Well good luck!
     
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    Bro New Jack is a mean bean

    ;)
     
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    Is it just me or does this seem to be turning into an ASUS questions and answers thread :D

    Mandrake they are amazing 3DMark06 scores !! I know the 5870 is a better synthetic performer but wow! I think I can just about reach high 11K maybe top 12k if im lucky.

    As for Crysis on very High with this card in a laptop ? Im guessing they were overclocked and not standard and not at full HD res?. I didnt think that was possible in a lappy yet...
     
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    I think Mandrake would be the first to admit that 3d mark 06 is very CPU biased you will never get near his score running a stock 720 vs his OCed 920
     
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    Oh, I wasn't aware I thought it was a mixed bag :) Ye my i7-720QM weakling would never beat hid behemoth. Plus the card which is about 600 points extra than what the 285M gets.
     
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