Does anyone have CLEVO with HD5870 ?

Yeah you need to be able to push the CPU in 3DMark06 because it heavily affects 2 out of the 3 scores.

 

Awesome mate!! Lovely scores and not bad heats ! Im getting the new Xtreme CPU for sure in Q3!!!

 

@fluffyuk
try using the E-LEET tuning utility from EVGA to OC. See if it works on your laptop.If your interested to see if you can push your CPU.

 

can't change multipliers on a non-extreme proc.

 

OK.
So it should work on a CLEVO with a 920XM?
How hard is it to change the multipliers with the E-LEET tuning tool?
Is it all done by the tool or do you go into the BIOS and change them?
To Mandrake the master of OCing

 

It's all done in the tool using sliders for each core. The problem is if the systems TDP/TDC limits are too low you will never achieve much of an over-clock. Also my system pushes 176W under full load. I'm assuming the W870CU would have problems with that.

 

So theoretically it will work just not at the levels you achieved.

 

does setfsb not work?

 

Correct.

Since the memory controller is built into the i7 processor there is no FSB to adjust.

 

ahhh, bummer, so theres no CPU over clocking to be had other than turboboost.

 

nope Note that its a huge deal, the i7 aren't the limiting factor on these Notebooks its the GPU.

 

Well, i do hope they will produce some thing better than the 5870 that will fit in my brand new 8690.

 

What is wrong with the 5870 steadfast? Afaik it is the fastest mobile GPU available right now and probably will be for quite some time. I don't really have much faith in Nvidia at the moment.

 

oh, nothing. in fact my notebook just shipped, just for 2k i hope the platform will receive a GPU upgrade down the road.

 

I wonder if one HD 5870 is good enough, that is if the DX11 stuff halfs the fps (someone wrote that in one of the threads). I want CF 5870 or a new SLI Nvidia card! I hate playing with low FPS at high resolutions

 

The FPS wont be low as in unplayable. Just having the tessellation on DX11 will reduce the FPS a bit. I would expect games to still be playable with DX11 with the 5870. Just maybe not DX11 maxed out. And after all on DX10 any game will still look impressive.

 

Maxed out or I won't play it! ^^ Don't really want to start turning down graphics to have tessellation on, don't see the point in that. Give me better CF or SLI then HD 4870 or GTX 285M!

 

Lots of BFBC2 users are reporting better FPS with DX11 actually, which is one of the bigger DX11 titles to come out recently. Here is a link to an EA blog where one of the Engine designers talk about DX11 in their new game.

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/bat.../02/19/bad-company-2-pc-graphics-details.aspx


"The primary uses of DX11 in Bad Company 2 is to soften all the dynamic shadows as well as to improve performance in general with a few smaller DX11 optimizations that we are using."

 

Here are some benchmarks for you all to review on the 8690 and 8760 with the 5870 compared to the 285M. Enjoy

 

@Justin

If you go into hardware profiles on dirt2 you can force the game to run without DX11 and will be able to get an accurate comparison between the 2 cards

 

Thanks Justin.
I wonder why the CPU benchmarks take such a huge hit with the 5870?
Seems like the 5870 doesn't like Ultra settings either. Hmmm.....

 

Because the Nvidia cards have PhysX, and this assists the CPU test.

If the PhysX is turned off in the Nvidia Control Panel the the test will be comparable

 

That's just Physx.

 

So in general we do see improvement on performance but just not in CPU benchmarks.

 

I'd take the 5870 over physx every day, all day

 

I will try and do this tomorrow.

 

Has Clevo really announced anything at CeBIT?

 

Mine is ordered and SHOULD be here Saturday

 

So you getting the W870CU?
Congrats!
Man you go through laptops like crazy
I guess the Moo is never satisfied.lol

 

Well its been a bumpy road but I should be happy now

 

Does the 5870 run actually cooler than the 285 in the 8690? Will this mean the fans won't kick in as often?

 

I am so tempted to send back my 8690 with 285 and exchange it for the one with 5870. PCTorque now carries the ATI card as well.

 

Yes the 5870 runs alot cooler.

 

It seems to me that although the 5870 is deffiantly the better card it only peroforms marginally better in most games and only grealty out performs in some. Can you tell me hoe many FPS 4% realtes to as if its only 5 I dont see the point in updrading or even sending laptops back just to get his card.

 

IMO the main thing is the directx 11, Nvidia made a mistake by underestimating usage of directx 11 in the next 1-2 years and not even including it in their 300 lineup, thinking that it will be another directx 10. IMO, directx 10 is not very spectacular, but directx 11 will be a new milestone in graphics software technology.

 

they said that about 10 when it came out

 

I had really big expectations for the 5870 but after seeing Justin's chart, it is not a big step up from the 285m GTX which is basically a 3 year old card.

 

Wll those benchmarks (gaming benchmarks) of HD5870 are okay - only okay.
I was hoping prerform better but...

Does anyone know when is Ati plannin to release new mobile catalysts?
10.3. maybe....It might boost the performance up. I think they will release it about 7th of march right?

Thaaanks

 

10.3 beta is already out

 

Well perhaps there's not a lot of reasons to upgrade to 5870 if you already have a 285, but for new buyers, there's almost no reasons to get 285 unless you are a diehard nvidia fan, 5870 is cheaper, faster, cooler, more power efficient, and comes with directx 11 which will make your laptop future proof at least software wise for the next few years. The fail with directx 10 is mainly due to the initial fail of vista, but windows 7 is another story.

Finally, it's the potential, 5870 has much higher potential than 285, being a rather new card, unlocking more potentials from driver update is possible as the initial drivers might not be very efficient yet, but not so much for 285 which was built upon the same architecture for 2 years+.

 

Hopefully my reseller would be able to upgrade my GTX280m to the 5870. Wonder how much of difference it would make. Anyways, I'll keep watch on this thread for developments. Hopefully future driver updates would fully unlock the power of the 5870.

 

My 8690 is only two weeks old. The biggest selling point of the 5870 for me is that it runs cooler (therefore the fans not kicking in as much). I just might take up PCTorque on their 30-day no questions asked return policy, and exchange the 8690/285 with the 8690/5870.

What do you think?

 

If you don't mind the wait, why not? Personally I need the 5870 for testing of directx 11 features for game engines coding, but if you are just gaming, it's probably not much of a problem, sager has insanely good cooling system anyways to be more than enough to handle 285. It comes down to whether you mind waiting for the gain, will probably be 1 month wait though I suspect.

 

I would definitely do it. No money lost.

 

Ugh. 1 month of no gaming. Oh, well.

I just sent Jason at PCTorque an email. Hopefully they go for it.

I do understand NVIDIA will have an answer soon. But I bet it may just be too long for me to wait for the actual shipping units.

 

The reason for the hit on the ATI on ULTRA settings is because the DX11 features are only utillised in the ultra settings.

To get a comparable test vs the 2 cards you must turn off the DX11 features in the Hardware Profile (Stored in the Documents/My Games location)

 

I doubt Nvidia will have any decent answer soon, the most possible answer I could think of them making is a GTX 380m which based of... let's make a guess, right... g92. Moreover, it will still only have dx10.1, it would be end of this year before they would come up with a dx11 400 series mobility card at the best case scenario.

 

This makes me wonder if the outcome would be different if NVIDIA stuck with what they do best instead of going head-to-head with Intel.

 

I would like to think that the new Nvidia mobile series will be along soon, was looking at Steam and saw this in the list of Optimal system requirements makes you wonder if Nvidia are releasing a new DX11 card for desktops, and if so hopefully a mobile one to follow?

Either way Nvidia have STATED that there new release will be the fastest GPU out there.

Optimum Requirements:
o Processor: Core i7 CPU
o Memory: 8GB RAM or higher
o Graphics: NVIDIA DirectX 11 compliant graphics card (GeForce GTX 480 and 470)
o DirectX®: DirectX 11

I wont be sending mine back to get the card unless its FREE I believe if I payed for the 5870 then knowing my luck something newer would be out as soon as I purchased.

 

that's for desktop, and Nvidia only just released the 400 series for desktop which is extremely hot and power hungry, therefore, the comment that it will be at least end of the year before they get it to mobile factor, and that's the best case scenario. For their 300 series, which will be the next one, nvidia had already stated that it will only support 10.1