Driver for 8800M GTX that does not suck?

Guys, I want to see if I can help you with your problems, so I have read the bios off my 8800M GTX on my new M1730 with Nbitor and hopefully it can help you. I think this bios is newer than what I have seen here so far it is version 62.92.2c.0.1, and I do hope it helps someone.

 

Appreciated Jesse, lets give this bios a try!..lol

 

no luck, wouldnt flash...hmm. Nibitor isnt support our card. I gave you a rep on the other thread, thanks for helping!

 

If anyone else gets this to work plz post, let us know, becuase this is driving me a little crazy...

 

naticus look what i found a newer version of NibitoR that DOES support 8800m GTX!

http://www.dvhardware.net/software/11822

get crackin i hope to see positive results when i get home from work.

 

That's strange I used nbitor 4.0 to read the bios and it recognized the card I just ran the program as Administrator and it worked.

 

me thinks naticus has 3.7

 

Edit808 you are a god bro! Waht do u have g00gle OC'd or soemthing. Ok I am goin to test now. Did you download the bios and flash yet?

 

Cant im freakin stuck at work, and yes I heart Google its the teachers replacement for the future!

 

lol...im burning the bootdisk right now..i will report back.

 

Well i got the same error as before after keying. "nvflash bios.rom", i renamed the bios to bios could that be the problem? It just wont flash. It says ERROR: NO NVIDIA DRIVER ADAPTERS FOUND. hmmm? what am I doing wrong here.

 

only thing i can think of is the vbios jesse offered maybe only intended for 8800M GTX that can run in SLI. thanx for the help though jesse.

 

nat, can't you call your vendor and tell them your problem?

that is unnaceptable.

 

Yes, that could be cause my system has the sli setup, so you may be correct. Hey I am always willing to help anyone on this forum if I can.

 

Actually im using the .bin .a3 vbios from the link and saving it as a .rom through nibitor. I actually thought that the vbios Jesse provided might not work because all the ID numbers were different so I didnt want to risk it, that and its a SLi setup. This could be the problem though, the .bin may not contain the bios update info. We still need a .a3 vbios from someone.

Yeah I emailed my reseller hopefully they will get back to me in the next couple of days.

 

Did you try opening the bios file from the techpowerup site in nbitor and then saving it as a .rom file. I just did that to see if it would work and it did, nbitor can save files as .bin or .rom files, I think you should give that a try.

 

finish work soon ill be joinin ya shortly hopefully naticus. Only thing in my way is GF quality time woooooooooo.

 

yeah thats what I did exactly. It still wouldnt work. I dont know maybe do i have to have the new sager system bios .08 as well? I have .07 right now.

 

On my sli desktop with 2 8800GTX cards I did this and used nvflash ver. 5.57 and it worked fine, but I remember dexgo mention earlier in this thread that you need to use nvflash -b romfile.rom to get it to work, this is the only thing I could suggest using the -b switch.

 

That doesnt work either. Well i guess I will have to see what edit808 can come up with. Maybe my burning software isnt working like it should I dont know.

 

Still at work Naticus go read Arenjis thread he loaded 174.74 and has bios .08 as well as the same freaking Vbios as well, yet he was able to run a 3dmark score and get 9k

 

Yeah I read hes system bios .08, and the same vbios as we do. I tried the sager .08 BIOS and it worked for about an hour then it downclocked itself again and was stuck at 275/300 memory. Im not sure whats going on here. I have the sager bios 1.00.08 if you would like to try it,see if it works for you?

 

I have .08 bios with .14 vbios, 174.82 drivers

I made 10045 in 3DMark06

Overclocked processor 2.8ghz, Overclocked vga 535/835

Overclock the vga more than that and it'll have driver failures on me, lame vista

 

OK well im going to try sager bios 1.00.08 one more time. Is there anything I have to enable for the BIOS to work or jsut flash? I mean I flashed it before and it worked for a glimpse then down again, so i refreshed it and it was downclocking. I will give it another try. Any suggestions are grealty appreciaed.

 

well once again the sager bios 1.00.08 still downclocks... im going to bed.

 

Naticus It seems i am able to load just about any nvidia driver now. I am currently deciding between 174.74 and 174.82, gunna run more tests today. I noticed that the card jumps around in frequency a lot but never gets stuck at a certain frequency for long.

Still trying to figure out how to just make it stay @ 500/799 id prefer if the vbios didnt dictate what speeds it should go at. When i had my AW m15x it always stayed @ 500/799 and only downclocked when it reached 90c 275/380.

Another thing i found out too, and it was pointed out in this thread was if you start in power saving mode (running on battery) and try to run something to clock the card it will start up @ 275/380 if you plug it back in to run at full speed it will stay @ 275/380. In order to remedy this need to reboot and start up plugged in from the get go.

Last but not least i didnt reflash my bios or vbios they are still .08 bios and .14vbios. I realized that loading up the drivers above stock i need to start my laptop always plugged in or ill just get a downclocked card at the start. I see you tried again last night with no success, might as well contact the vendor.

 

174.31 is the best for performance.

 

Is there really any chance, that there will come a driver for the 8800M-GTX that actually works ?

TBH I havent updated to the .08 Bios yet, as im waiting for my reseller to get done with their version. Also I would like to have the orginal bios for backup, just in case, which I dont have. And my VBIOS is .14, which ive read should be the best performing one.

So im still stuck with the 167.43 (LV2G ones, which im using atm), which are the only ones that dont DC my card so far.
Atleast ive not had any trouble with these drivers, and they are running okay, but in time, I would still like to be able to update

 

yes Im hoping to hear back from eurocom about the downclocking, see what they have to say, i told them that i have tried different bios' with no avail. I hope they will have a fix for this, as i really don't NEED new drivers yet, but as time goes on, and games implement new features and performance tweaks ( ie Bioshock, crysis & 174series drivers, assasins creed and its set) the ability to improve performance down the road becomes rather important. I mean i bought a performance gaming-laptop, i want the performance part.

 

CpxAxn
I have same bios .08 and vbios.14, same drivers 174.82. How did you overclock? Can you explain, PLEASE!
OS Vista Home Premium 64bit.
Clevo M570RU

 

use nTune, but im not sure the .08 bios can OC.

 

I used NiBitor

 

I can't overclock with nTune and Riva Tuner2.08. nTune always jumps back to 500/799 and Riva Tuner2.08 is showing some rubbish.
NiBitor: I used 3.9 and 4.0 they can't read my vbios. After tools then Read bios and select device I get "can't connect to Service Manager"??? NiBitor looks totally empty??? I'm fresh to this NiBitor stuff so mayby I'm doing somthing wrong? Thanks for help in advance.

 

Vista 64 is the worst OS

you cant use nibitor in that operating system.

LOOL

I can't belive it.

you People!

Use XP if you want the BEST PERFORMACE.

 

Thanks for info dexgo, but how then CpxAzn overclock??? Looks like we have very similar rigs: same CPU same RAM, same bios and vbios so whats wrong??? I never have problem with downclocking 8800GTX and all drivers which I try work ok. The best so far is 174.82 and the 3DMark 06 score is 9184. Compared to 9105 with 167.44, 9107 with 167.62 and 9098 with 167.43. I try also 169.46 but score 3DMark06 was 8745. I choose Vista 64bit because I read that it provides best performance in high resolutions 1400*1050 and higher. Mayby I should switch to vbios .a3? Is it worth it?

 

I haven't done all of this, but from reading through the various threads multiple times, it would seem that if you have Vista64 you can:

A. Use gpu-z to save a copy of your video bios (for me, it created a file named 'G92 M.bin').
B. Open this file in Nibitor (remember to change file type to .bin so you see it) and edit your clocks, voltage, whatever, then save (probably as a .rom file since I think nvflash only recognizes .rom).
C. Take the saved file, reboot into DOS (using usb, cd, whatever) and, using nvflash, flash your video bios with it.

I haven't done part C yet, but I've done everything else. You can't use nibitor in Vista64 to 'read bios from device', but you can use it to edit a bios saved from another program/person (such as gpu-z).

Anyway, try it out this way. I can't guarantee it will work but I don't know why it wouldn't, given what I've read. *shrugs*

And yes, Dexgo, Vista isn't as good for gaming compared to XP. We know. I personally am just too lazy to do a complete format at the moment, and eventually there will be enough games with good DX10 and vista patches to make it worth it.

 

Thanks sterben, you really help me. I'll have to read bit more about flashing bios before I move to C.

 

Well, as I said, I haven't done this (at least C) myself, so I'm not 100% it will work, but it seems reasonable that it would. I've got a modded bios all set up right now to put all my clocks at the 'extra' rate so they won't do any downclocking, but admittedly, I haven't even had my new card for 2 weeks yet, so I'm hesitant to start messing around with it just quite yet

 

Well I just got a different bios from eurocom, flashed it, didnt help the downclcoking. It almost felt more like an update because the flash process took less than 5 seconds. Im going to flash again this time when im using the .08 bios and see if it is an update for that.

 

I would say XP pro 64 is the worst OS ever

 

who cares vista vs xp, i wont some better drivers. So apparently the .08 bios works great with every1 but me? What am i doing wrong here?

 

As said , you should contact Eurocom if your system missbehaves...

 

Naticus i read your pass post and it shows you loaded 174.74 and it smoothed out crysis for you. What i dont understand is how is your card down clocking? can you show what makes you believe your card is down clocking?

 

Im running the 167.44 drivers with my 8800m gtx at the moment, and I was wondering if there is a faster driver out there? There is nothing wrong with this one for me, its simply a stock driver.
Not looking to overclock either, just after a stable and fast driver for this card
any suggestions welcome

 

Yeah 174.74 worked with .08 bios for like an hour and then it downclocked, so i restarted (like someone said to do when it downclocks) but my clocks just stayed at 275/300 while in game and running 3dmark after. The clocks stayed this way with other drivers as well with the .08 bios. So i switched back to the .07 bios . I have since that tried the .08 bios 3 times with no success with the downclocking issue. Eurocom sent me 2 different system bios, which none of them helped fix the downclcking issue. Actually the last bios they sent me seemes more of an update and it caused my fan firmware control to not work, so i flashed back again to the .07 bios.

Im not sure if my problem now is my system bios or vbios, as I have only been able to change my system bios.

 

I only used nibitor to change my clocks. I used nvflash in dos to flash.
I downloaded the vbios from somewhere in this post and opened it with nibitor and OCed it.

and BTW, I'm using Vista 64bit.


EDIT: Now that I think about it, nibitor might work if you turn off driver signature enforcement.

 

nvidia gpu is "sensitive" when you near or reach a throttle limit or the card is gonna overheat it downclocks itself to prevent damage.

since i read somewhere you overclocked it may have damage the throttling in the video bios or something. That may explain why you downclocked at 174.74 when it was full speed.

The fact that the NV gpu is sensitive is when you are overclocking, you find you have a high stabele 3d mark score. you raise the clocks again and you find the score is lower than the previous clock speeds, that means the driver has reached its "sensitive point". Hence i think thats your problem naticus.

reflashing your bios to the A3 version maybe fix it?

 

anything 174.16 and up bar 174.31

 

I was hoping someone could help me figure out a problem with my 8800M. My clevo M57ru came with 167.43.

I tried 174.82 last night, and my 3dmark scores were cut almost in half. Same thing with 167.44. I used the disc that came with my system to go back to 167.43, and my score was consistently 300 points below my normal score (before trying different drivers). I used system restore to go back to the original 167.43 installed on my system, and my score jumped back to normal.

I'm not sure if there's 2 flavors of 167.43 floating out there, or if my video settings were somehow tweaked for better performance.

In case it's helpful, with the driver that came with my system, I get over 8500 marks with my single 8800M, using a T7500 core 2 duo.

 

Yeah but i really dont OC, 99% of the time I dont OC at all. The only time is when I "test" crysis .cfgs and such.