Flashed 9800M GT BIOS on 8800M GTX Card

Any idea guys is gonna work with my XPS M1730 too?? i not really want to risk it allready known the M1730 has 8800M GTX in SLI the 2 chip sit on one board acompany with the SLI chip and the 2 BIOS are totally DIFFERENT....

 

I'm sorry AssimilatorX but it wont work for you because you card use different bios from ours we cant flash your bios to our 8800M GTX card and you cant flash our 8800M GTX bios and even if you can your System bios dosnt support 9800M GT cards this what Dell do you have to buy new laptop

 

we just got a new BIOS released few days ago called A10 and dell said in changelog section "Support new videocards" then wat cards they think i think they got something planned...

 

i dont know do you think that they will released Video Card upgrade for M1730
maybe if thay do that with 9800M GT we have to compare both bios and see if the bios is compatible with your

 

if uu guys say is just a rebranded card i saw 9800M containing exatly same transistor number same core size anything the same including the core ver too so look to me is just a bios "modd" but it is i just cant really see why is the 9800M got better performance with the same clock speeds? if uu seen my pics uu can guess dell tryed save space with this "combo" card 2x8800M + SLI ic on board. Almost same size as one of the desktop version...

 

i see you know better than us just do what you want and dont ask if you dont want our opinion

and the Device ID of the cards are different

 

Why are you saying that 98M GT has better performance?? I know that with exact same system swapping only card, nothing changed between 98M-88M GT

 

im inclined to agree. no real difference between the 8800mgtx/9800mgt. it would appear as nvidia got caught for this and pulled it. it is also possible that all they did was a software mod on the chip, but under testing conditions...it performed just like the 8800m gtx..... now there is how ever a major jump between 9800m gtx and 88/9800m gt. (for the moment) but a few tweaks here and there may close that gap.

 

Dell 8800M GTX SLI is better than our 8800M GTX and 9800M GT because is GX2 model 2 cores on one board and can overclock much higher

 

well, im not going to go with that one gangstaone...lol
the dual 9800m gt's can hit 15.6 and so far...no sli 8800m gtx has hit that. the best was right at 15k
list of 8800m gtx's

 

hehe you are wrong i have seen they can overclock their cards to
Core: 700
Shaders 1700
Memory:1000
Stable
and even more with good external cooling system
and they hit 15k with Core 2 Duo CPU we get 15 with much powerfull CPU

 

Sorry i not meant to insult anyone i just wonder what the benefit to change the bios to 98M from 88M i red on other forums some guys got better performance, if i tweak my 650/950/1400Mhz is give me with 4GB 800Mhz Memory and 2.8Ghz Cpu 12420 piont in 3DMark06 and about 11xxx in vantage that is not bad and all the tweaks from nvidia driver so no voltmodding.....

 

you dont get anything from that even you can do it you have the most powerfull 8800M GTX SLI config dont worry

 

you know what..you could have something there.. i had 9800m gt's for like 4 days and ditch them suckers. they seemed like they we're either broken or seriously lagging to me. and was like...i should have bought 8800m gtx's. but when i get the 9800m gtx's i clearly seen the difference. and now that margin grows. my no over clock score beats an over clocked sli 9800m gt rig.

ill see if i can find some of my old scores. i was kind of disgusted with them to begin with.
but given what i know now and with a good set of 9800m gt's i could break 16k with them. probably the same with 8800m gtx's or pretty close.

 

johnksss i'm not happy to say that dell 8800M GX2 card are better than our SLI config but they are

 

then you may need to make a change...lol

cause it sure in hell aint better than mine..lol

 

8800m GX2? Do you mean Dual 8800m GTX's? I did a google search for 8800m GX2 and didn't find anything....

 

i still think he means 8800m gtx x2 or 2 gpus on one card. no matter. they aint better than no two 9800m gtx. not even remotely close.

 

Yup.

96 core processors (or whatever Nvidia is calling them these days) vs. 112? I think 112 wins.

 

johnksss we talk for 8800M GTX not for your 9800M GTX right and did you have ever Clevo D901C with 8800M GTX SLI config ?

 

Citizen86 yes Dell XPS M1730 dont use two video card just two cores on one board just like desktop GX2 cards thats why their sli is better

 

Black Hawk XR5 (Clevo D901C)
Display: 17" HD WUXGA+ 1920x1200 Ultra Resolution
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz
Memory: 4GB DDR2 800MHz PC2-6400
GPU: NVIDIA Geforce 9800M GTX SLI 2GB
HDD: 3x200GB 7200RPM Seagate Momentus
External: 2TB Western Digital
Sound Card: Realtek HD Audio Controller
Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7000 Beta 1 x86

^^i was going by that. don't see two 8800m gtx's anywhere in there.

and i had two 9800m gt's so that is pretty much the same as what you we're talking about before. since you said they are the same cards, right? and i told you how long i had them and why i got rid of them as well, but then mine may have been faulty from the start. who knows...i gave them 4 days to act right and they didn't so i got rid of them.

aslo, you putting a fully over clocked system against an average setup.. you have to go highend for highend and since they now have a dual core clocked at 3.33. that pretty much will knock the xps off it's 15k holding pattern when running dual 8800m gtx. assuming one knows what they are doing.

there are quite a few test ran using 9800m gt sli systems, but because they don't have it setup on orb, the results don't show...and there are at least 4 people around now that have higher marks than the 8800mm gtx sli rig...did you check out any of those threads?

edit: and the only reason why you think it performs better is because they over clock the whole system as a whole and not just the gpu like we do in the 9262. if you we're allowed to over clock a dual core. then you would see it in action. dual cores yeild higher 2.0 and 3.0 scores when running off an over clocked system... if you can find some stock scores...this should help to understand the whole concept.

 

as i study my bioses i realized the first card is the master second is slave mode only the first show me boot logo when i turn it on and says VGA bios 2nd is silent but in the bios is a text string say 3D Bios ... be honestly i never had SLI system before but long time ago use and oc'ing my nvidia cards since my first Diamond Viper 770 (TNT2) but for me looks dell got the 1st and only "8800M GX2" if i remember you all have MXMIII cards linked in SLI my is only one board with the SLI ic...

 

AssimilatorX
now that very well could be the truth there. don't think i remember seeing any other ones like that, till now. with one of the new ati cards.

 

They're MXM IV, but pretty much, yeah

 

i get my 9800M GTX a week ago my 8800M GTX are here i will give one of them to Oile ask him if you dont believe me

 

nah, it's not like that gangstaone. no need for proof. if you say you have it, that's good enough for me.

 

they perform better because they are on one board and have better connection for sli then our if you dont know Clevo had more than 3 months problems with SLI cable for 8800M GTX

 

when i found that Dell 8800M GTX SLI config is little better than ours i had mad because i have XPS M1710 and i know how dell make their laptops the bigest ever just they get luck this time thats it

 

yeah, i cant agree.... no xps machine is beating my rig at stock.. these must be some super machines hidden around here...point me toward one of these over achiever machines ....

 

You guys are talking about the same thing!
The 8800M GTX X2 of XPS is SLIGHTLY better than SLi of 8800M GTX because of the built in "bridge" on board and the huge OC..with that frequencies they can nearly reach 9800M GTX (the old ID version) in SLi...
How perform 9800M GTX in SLi and comparing to 8800M GTX in SLi is another story!

 

ok....................

 

still not going for it, but here goes some starting ground for it...






sli seems to be working alright in these few games.

have a read or look through here.. plenty of np9262's running 8800m gtx's here with benchmarks.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=325962

 

yes sli is working fine for me too you didnt understand me just dell 8800M GTX SLI is little better than our 8800M GTX SLI because both cores are on one board thats all nothing more nothing less

 

but it seem that you are on other opinion just stick with it and stop write for this please

 

before=yes. they "we're" better (but they stop at dual core so that technology can't go any further)
today=jan 24th 2009 a np9262 sli 8800m gtx will "out perform it" and now has 7 modes of sli rendering to choose from.

i under stand all sli solutions are not 100 percent true to form, but in some cases...sli works to full potential.


these are facts and not opinions. your using opinions.

but your right, i am done. can't explain it no simpler for you to understand.

 

i understand you but we dont talk for hole laptop config or CPU just sli 8800M GTX they is better direct connection this is it

 

understood.

 

lol.........

 

I think that is difficult to make true trustable comparison if we can't swap the cards on just one system!
I tend to adfirm that the Dell one is slightly better even only for OCability..
I don't know if there are a lot of SLi modes and if they are not available in 88M GX2 because I don't have it..

 

....... no comment ......

max oc i can get is 685/975/1550Mhz all the games working but 3DMark tests failing and all is 1.2V with Bios vmodding and with stock cooler if i go 1.3v the card start screaming .... anyone know solution ho can we enable the voltmodding textfield in the nvidia performance driver???

 

Nah there is no more SLI modes on the Sager than I have on my XPS or than what it is for desktops in SLI. SLI modes is driven by the driver not the hardware.

Though you can get access to more through Nhancer, but the amount of modes is the same for all SLI setups.

 

im curious...what kind of performance does that produce?
i ran a 700/1000/1700 over clock and it down graded system performance. i know why it did, but was wondering if you experience this as well...

sli modes was meant for both. sorry if that wasn't clarified before.
and yes, using nhancer.

 

aye i got exactly the same the best performance in my sys on 650/950/1350Mhz and i get both GPU's runing on 72-75C system stabile driver ver:179.28 ,Ageia PhysX ON driver 9 series 11446 point

 

and no volt modding

 

ok, makes sense...
what was holding you up is not just over volting, but you would need a special power brick as well.

im running test on mine and it's rated at 220 watt's.
when i run an over clock, the watts jump up to a max thus far of 259 watts.
for me to run that over clock of 700/1000/1700 i would need a 300 watt power adapter.
im using a kw meter to regulate power consumption.

 

Problem is that those overclocks with 650 on the core has artifacts in ATI tool if you stress test and run the artifact scanner, you have Deltas that what it does is degrade your GPU faster than if you haven´t had those.

What the XPS M1730 can achieve without a volt mod max and artifact free is 625/1500/950, might go a little higher on the memory, though 950 is enough.

 

Has anyone flashed a 9800M GT Bios to 8800M GTX in a ALIENWARE M15X ???

Can i do this?

 

if the card is like our you can do it just have to compare the cards

 

Why do you want to do it?