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    GTX 470M Benchmarks (SAGER NP8690 / Clevo W860CU)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Tech17, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. fvultee

    fvultee Notebook Enthusiast

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    I didn't know they did that, but apparently not with this one, or perhaps they had this one config'd and ready to go post-testing. All I know is I ordered it one day, and got the email that they shipped the very next day. Aside from it having an i5 sticker on it (when there is an i7 inside), it's perfect. Oh, and the ticking power supply makes me a bit nervous, but so far so good. I did make the mistake of uninstalling the biometric finger reader software (Protector Suite 2009) and now it won't reinstall no matter what version or which driver I use, but I'm not so concerned with that device since they are historically terrible enforcing security on these devices.
     
  2. Iccup

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    This thread has been quiet over the last few days.

    Anyone received their machine? This forum hungers for benchmarks!
     
  3. Kevin

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    You can't just replace your GPU on a whim. MSI must first add support via BIOS update, or it won't boot.

    Has that happened yet?
     
  4. neol

    neol Notebook Consultant

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    horaaaaay mine is now waiting for the shipping details so its kind of "will be shipped" but atleast its better than phase 2 xDDD.
    btw fvultee how is the power supply ticking ?? its kind of scary me 0_0, are you using the noraml 120 ?? and how it's heat when you are gaming ?
     
  5. fvultee

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    Glad to hear you will get it soon, you won't be disappointed! :) Ticking kinda sounds like an old mechanical wind up watch, though the ticking is not to a consistent beat like a watch would be. Temp during gaming is fine, though I did have it sitting on a blanket that was on my lap (which covered the vents on the bottom a bit) and when I picked it up it was HOT! A few hours of Battlefield Bad Company 2 on maxed out settings will do that :)
     
  6. Iccup

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    I honestly don't think the PSU is supposed to do that...
     
  7. neol

    neol Notebook Consultant

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    actually i was talking about the PSU temp lol, since this ticking might happen cause the wire is not connected properly in the psu, i used to have something similar to that im my compaq for the first time and then a good push to the wire input in the psu ended that sound,
    oh on the other hand my laptop is FINALLY SHIPPED HORAAAAAAAAY but i didnt recive any tracking number in the order updates ??? where did you guys get your tracking numbers from ?
     
  8. fvultee

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    I got a tracking number in an email the night it shipped, and another one the next day from the rep I was working with.
     
  9. kc0075

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    First of all Tech17! Thank You for your time/effort/money spent on doing benchmarks for this card! Been looking for this one for a loooong time...
    Even notebookcheck doesn't have it so kudos to you mate!

    All right, first post so don't flame me :p (made an account just for this thread)

    According to Notebookcheck, the Mobility HD 5870 has a 3D mark Vantage score at stock clocks of around 8350 @ 1280*1024 high settings on an i7 820QM (cpu doesnt matter but still)

    Thats only a 2.5% increase in performance if both the 470m and 5870m are compared. So the only thing I'm curious about is what resolution was this Vantage test done?? as a higher resolution would justify the 470m's capability and vantage score. Also, I'm sure that the 470m stands out much better than the 5870m when comparing tessellation.

    I know for my first post I'm asking a lot, but since there are some early adopters of this new nvidia card discussing on the same thread... Can anyone do a Uniengine heaven tessellation dx11 @ Full HD resolution on high settings to see how it fares out against the 5870m & the 480m???

    As for me, I was thinking of getting a new Asus G73 for about $1000 from ebay(pretty cheap eh?). But I decided to ditch that offer as the thoughts of a Sandy Bridge paired with a 2011 mobile graphics solution reminds me of the saying "Patience reaps great rewards" :D
     
  10. Aikimox

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    ^^ Just make sure you are not comparing the GPU only score of the 470M to a total Vantage score for the M5870. Gpu only score for M5870 is in the 7.5-8.0K range at stock clocks. Notebookcheck guys show you the total score ;)
     
  11. Bytales

    Bytales Notebook Evangelist

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    MySn.De offers 470m sli in the x7200. It basicaly replaces the 480m, with the same price 480m had.

    So, anyone gettin those ?
     
  12. Patrck_744

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    same price as SLI 480M?
     
  13. ichime

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    Anyone else have a system with the GTX 470M?
     
  14. Bytales

    Bytales Notebook Evangelist

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    yah, it actualy replaces the 480m.

    Thats why it was so long before it appeared in the x7200. They waited to clear stock of 480ms.

    Hahahahahha.
    This is more proof of the fact that 480m should have not been made for laptops. the geforce 100 chip, i mean.
     
  15. fvultee

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    Yes, why do you ask?
     
  16. Kevin

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    Would you run the Lost Planet 2 benchmark, highest settings no AA?
     
  17. Patrck_744

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    That kind of sucks for the people who bought the SLI 480M.
     
  18. fvultee

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    Well I downloaded and installed the benchmark, but unfortunately it crashes to the desktop as soon as I try to run it. Sorry :(
     
  19. Bytales

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    They had no choice in the matter.
     
  20. ichime

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    Have you tried it with a different driver?
     
  21. JohnnyFlash

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    No it doesn't. A good chunk of us have been saying it wasn't a good idea from the start. It's price and power numbers, combined with the fact the GF104 was coming out as the 480m was released, and the 5870 destroyed it in price/performance, made it a terrible choice. Not trying to be mean, we've all made bad choices at some point; the warnings were there though.
     
  22. Kevin

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    Pretty much spot on, sir. In the days following the 480M price announcement, and subsequent benchmarks, "wait for GF104" was the prevailing thought among all of us with logical minds.

    I tried to reason with folks, but some people just don't listen. And I still hold a harsh brand of accountability against those who kept telling the new people, "well if he has the money, might as well go all out!", as if having money negates making an informed buy. All the while, those who pushed others toward making the purchase weren't lining up to buy X7200s.

    It's harsh, but anyone who spent $800+ per GPU needs to look in the mirror. Blame yourself or God. The benchmarks vs. the 5870M were out there.

    Hmm, the 480M is having the same exact issue.
     
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    neol Notebook Consultant

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    i have the full game but the laptop is not here yet but it will be here today or tomorrow (probably), so if you gentlemen's not in a hurry i will install the game and post the results in 3 days period maximum (hopefully).
     
  25. fvultee

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    Different video card driver? Umm no, there's only one for my config, the Sager 470M driver. The stock Nvidia drivers don't support this one and won't install.
     
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    hey im back,
    i dont know why this thread is not stick yet ?? there is more than 13+ grand views it.
    anyway as i promised i would come back with results of benchmarking for the Lost Planet 2
    my settings:
    1920x1080
    nvidia 259...(cant remember the rest and lazy to check)
    windows 7 ultimate 64bit
    hmm.. guess thats it oh and im not sure about the directx that i got but im correctly downloading the latest one from microsoft.
    the game settings:
    res 1920x1080
    everything on high including directx 11 features which i dont know WTH is it ??
    AA disabled
    vsync disabled (also what is this ? i always saw it and tried it but nothing seems to change)
    the results test 1:
    scene 1: 27.7
    scene 2: 23.3
    scene 3: 29.4
    also i need to note that the laptop went to sleep on scene 2 and the game went really slow (8fps) before i got it back but that was for 3-5 sec,
    i was playing burnout paradise for nearly one hour with everything in full including AAx8 :D and the heat was 65c and the game looked really really great, my roommate bought me the new NFS game and i will try it as soon as i have the time to play with it, also i got TONs of games old and new ones but im waiting for the logitech g500 to arrive (is it best gaming mouse ??) and after that would benchmark FPS games :D
    so guys if any of you want to know a benchmark for a game please do reply and i will see if i got the game and then i would gladly be at your service, but please note i got a slow internet here at the dorms unlike the campus, so i dont want to download anything like the lost planet 2 benchmark (it took nearly 2 days T_T) so i hope for a benchmark included in the game also the fps games will wait for the g500 :DDDD
     
  28. fvultee

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    I bought the G500 mouse and I love it. Great gaming mouse indeed! To initially set the sensitivity hard buttons you need to install the software, but aside from that I love it! Also, I installed the modified INF Nvidia drivers and they work flawlessly in case you are thinking of doing the same. That way your drivers are more up to date than the ones Sager has released.

    Only problem with the computer so far is that the SAGER name on the front is actually foil tape, and the R already peeled when I was cleaning the top. So now it's a SAGE, not bad either! :)
     
  29. The Revelator

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    Any 3dMark11 scores for the 470M yet?
     
  30. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    Is that what I'm thinking it is?
     
  31. fvultee

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    I'm guessing that depends on what you think it is?
     
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    Take your shenanigans back to /g/. Sage goes in the email.
     
  33. inap

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    what drivers are you guys using for the 470m??? trying to to put a 470m in my M15x, but it won't kick into 3d clocks. currently using 263.09 with modded inf.
     
  34. fvultee

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    I'm using the modded .inf Nvidia 263.09 drivers on my 470M without any issues.
     
  35. inap

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    thanks fvultee, then i guess it a bios issue with the M15x. +rep
     
  36. ChronoBodi

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    does it let you change screen brightness? Or is it still at 100% brightness with no control over it?
     
  37. fvultee

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    yah, 100% with no control. oh well, good think i like a bright screen! :)
     
  38. Patrck_744

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    The first time I installed the desktop drivers I thought my hotkey driver was broken. The only way you can control the brightness is if you adjust is before the Starting Windows screen, after that the keys will be disabled.
     
  39. physib

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    Why has nvidia still not given support for these cards yet?
     
  40. fvultee

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    That's a great question, I asked that awhile back and never got a reply.
     
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    can you elaborate on that?

    so that means i can actually set my brightness with the desktop drivers, instead of having to burn my eyes with 100% brightness all the time?
     
  42. Patrck_744

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    You can adjust it before this screen appears:

    [​IMG]

    After that its not gonna work anymore.
     
  43. physib

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    You can do it before the windows loading animation.
     
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    guys any idea how to change the wallpaper of the desktop when changing the users at?

    when we alt+ctrl+del, we will be brought into new desktop, that background wallpaper, any idea how to change it?
     
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    Wallpapers are unique to each user as far as I know, so if you set different wallpapers for each user their settings will stick between logins...
     
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    So anyone doing a 3dmark 2011 run with 470m sli ?
    Or better yet, does anyone have a 470m sli ?
    Or even more so better, is 3dmark 2011 even supporting sli yet ?
     
  47. Kevin

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    There's no 470M SLI yet, and I don't think 3DM11 supports it yet.
     
  48. Bytales

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    yes there is, my sn sells it for the x7200. 700 or so more euros compared to the 460m sli.
     
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    Eurocom is no indication whatsoever (they offered the card for months now without any information about when the card will actually be available) and even mySN says that the card won't be available until the last week of december.
     
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