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    Gtx 580m

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by materax, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. Kevin

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    No, not at all. The 6970M is an amazing GPU, and has done me no wrong.

    Truth be told, I'm just an Nvidia fan, at heart. The price of 485M was simply too high to justify, so I was forced into going AMD. If the 570M is close in price to the 6970M, I'll switch back.
     
    Kevin, Jun 27, 2011
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    Cloudfire, Jun 27, 2011
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    I guess zee Germans dont give a $%^& about a 6am NDA expiration. 20% performance bump is better than 10-15% that I expected - maybe we can squeeze another 5-10% out of it with overclocking, and hopefully, they won't bend us over on the price.

    Heh, now for the other million dollar question...

    When is it GA?
     
    bartman8888, Jun 27, 2011
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  4. Cloudfire

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    What TDP is the 570M btw? Looks interesting because it is right between 560 and 580.
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 27, 2011
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  5. pkhetan

    pkhetan CopyLEFT ↄ⃝

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    I'm under NDA but copylefted as in my signature :D

    No, seriously I didn't sign any NDA. Clevo just gave me the price as a reseller and didn't tell me anything about NDA. I think they even didn't care. The advised price is $906 for one GTX 580M, $1734 for SLI kit. They give me a special price for one SLI kit at $1420.
    You see I'm an opened book, this is called the Open Source NDA under GPL licence :D :D
     
    pkhetan, Jun 27, 2011
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  6. aduy

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    ooh now i might opt for zine 570m ooh yes, und it has zine 256bit memory bus, which is an improvement from the old 470m, so at least that is going to be better. zat will certainly beat my current frisen.

    edit: so by those stats the 570m should be a fairly good step up from the old 470m, and right now thats looking pretty sweet.
     
    aduy, Jun 27, 2011
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  7. Kevin

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    Well, same exact core/mem/shader clocks as the GTX 470M, with a 15% increase in shaders (336 instead of 288), and 256-bit instead of 192-bit.

    It's probably in the 85W range, along with the 6970M.
     
    Kevin, Jun 27, 2011
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  8. pkhetan

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    Do you have it's codename, I may ask Clevo to quote it if they have it, but they understand codename better than GTX name.
     
    pkhetan, Jun 27, 2011
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  9. aduy

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    so that will mean 2gb of gddr5 as well for the 570m
     
    aduy, Jun 27, 2011
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  10. bifnewman

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    Does anyone think the 570m could be flashed to the 580m to unlock the extra shaders and up the clocks a bit?
    @Tirenz - I doubt the 485m can be flashed since the 580m is using a different core (if I'm not confused).
     
    bifnewman, Jun 27, 2011
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  11. ichime

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    GTX 570M looks interesting. It's basically the Quadro 4000M, which is a bit slower than the 6970M.

    Also, I was expecting 650mhz core for the 580M :/ though we're looking at a 10% increase over the 485M and 13k Vantage GPU stock.
     
    ichime, Jun 27, 2011
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  12. DGDXGDG

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    but if can, i bet most of the 570m hard to stable under 580m bios
    id like to try flash 485m to 580m......anyone have its bios now? :rolleyes:
     
    DGDXGDG, Jun 27, 2011
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  13. physib

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    6/28.. still waiting for 580m lol
     
    physib, Jun 28, 2011
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  14. Kevin

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    No, I don't have it yet.
     
    Kevin, Jun 28, 2011
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    I take it the 570m is inferior to the 485m regardless of die shrink and overclocking, now we have to wait a few days for the resellers to put up their prices regarding the cards.
     
    Harleyquin07, Jun 28, 2011
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    They are the same 40nm process.
     
    anexanhume, Jun 28, 2011
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  17. aduy

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    what resellers will offer the 570m, because as far as know no one offers the 470m currently. is that due to low stock or is the card just too outdated.
     
    aduy, Jun 28, 2011
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    470m was phased out if I remember correctly, the 570m is its direct replacement (long overdue).
     
    Harleyquin07, Jun 28, 2011
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  19. Red Line

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    570M with good OC potential to run at 580M speeds - FTW, hope Nvidia will choose the right price policy...
     
    Red Line, Jun 28, 2011
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  20. aduy

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    When and why was it phased out
     
    aduy, Jun 28, 2011
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  21. little_one

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    I think the price is not come from NVIDIA , Clevo might get 580M gpu cheaper from NVIDIA but Clevo will not sell the card cheaper ...
     
    little_one, Jun 28, 2011
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  22. jaybee83

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    i dunno guys, looking at the specs of the 580m i highly doubt that one could squeeze out a 20% performance gain compared to the 485m! the 580m clocks are actually quite close to my 485m oc gaming clocks (see my sig) and all in all i get around 7.6% more speed, so not even close to Nvidia´s claim...

    concerning pricing:

    mysn.de offers the 580m for 50€ more than the 485m (both P150HM and P170HM)

    one.de offers the 580m upgrade in the P170HM for 400€, whereas P150HM offers the 485m upgrade for 300€, thus a 100€ difference in pricing

    lastly, hawkforce.de offers both the 580m (P170HM) and 485m (P150HM) for the same upgrade price (+400€ compared to stock).

    im gonna check with my reseller (deviltech) what their pricing will be since they havent updated their website just yet, hopefully ill be able to upgrade to the 580m with just 50-100€ aditional cost (only WHEN and IF i can get my hands on performance reviews that support Nvidia´s 20% performance gain claim!)

    just my two cents so far folks...

    cheers
     
    jaybee83, Jun 28, 2011
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  23. Justin@XoticPC

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    Stay tuned we are getting close..... :)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Jun 28, 2011
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  24. jaybee83

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    jaybee83, Jun 28, 2011
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  25. Mr Najsman

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    Available august 2011, medium config 1768 Euro

    Also: "Check back 3pm CET for additional info".

    Edit: bad qoute..
     
    Mr Najsman, Jun 28, 2011
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  26. jaybee83

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    yep, looking forward to that :)
     
    jaybee83, Jun 28, 2011
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  27. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    45 mhz more...shipping in august...so what's the upside?
    Anyone likes to sheer me up? ;)
     
    Prema, Jun 28, 2011
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  28. Acren

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    Hmm... to get a 485m or wait more than a month without a laptop for the 580m?
     
    Acren, Jun 28, 2011
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  29. jaybee83

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    well, ASSUMING Nvidia`s claim of a 20% performance boost vs. 485m is just a PR thing, I as a 485m owner would probably stick to what i have. if youre still out to buy a new laptop then id just go for the 580m, sicne the price difference doesnt seem to be that significant!

    cheers
     
    jaybee83, Jun 28, 2011
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  30. ashwindany

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    Just another FYI......the GTX 580m is available as an upgrade option for the AW M17x....for an additional $350 over the 6970.......or $600 over the default 6870

    UPDATE: the preliminary shipping date is also 7/8/11.
     
    ashwindany, Jun 28, 2011
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  31. aarondr

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    Darn it, you just beat me to this post, I was just checking that. :p
     
    aarondr, Jun 28, 2011
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    Cloudfire, Jun 28, 2011
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  33. aduy

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    omg gtx 580m now available in the m11x
    now with a fhd 1080p screen

    jk jk lmao that would be so bad

    edit: also on nvidia's website it says the 570m is 20% faster, even though that german website said it would have 256 bit memory and it only has the 192 bit.
     
    aduy, Jun 28, 2011
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  34. Justin@XoticPC

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    580M Now Available for Order. ETA Early July. :) :)

    0DP Warranty went to $75 across the board. 485M went down $200 :D
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Jun 28, 2011
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  35. MALIBAL

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    The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580M 2GB is now available! It should be up on resellers sites, including ours - within a few minutes. The 580M is a $595 upgrade from the 560M and will start shipping in Early July.

    Also, the 485M received a nice price reduction. $200 OFF! :)
     
    MALIBAL, Jun 28, 2011
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  36. Bytales

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    At stock speeds, is a single 580m faster then a pair of 460m s ?
    My vantage Pscore is 13500.
    I never tried to overclocked them to see what that would get me, as i see overclocking pointless.
     
    Bytales, Jun 28, 2011
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  37. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    It really is GOOD NEWS with the release of the nVidia® GeForce® GTX 580M, pricing has been adjusted... ;)

    For the Sager NP7282 the Dual nVidia® GeForce® GTX 580M 2GB GDDR5 DX11 SLI for this model is only a $650.00 option
    For the REINSTATED Sager NP7280 with Dual nVidia GeForce GTX 485M with 2GB GDDR5 DX 11 in SLI it is only a $545.00 upgrade

    YES THE 485M's pricing has been lowered!

    For the Sager NP8170 THE nVidia® GeForce® GTX 580M 2GB GDDR5 DX11 is a $595.00 upgrade
    For the nVidia GeForce GTX 485M with 2GB GDDR5 it is now only a $395.00 upgrade
    For the Sager NP8150 nVidia® GeForce® GTX 580M 2GB GDDR5 DX11 is a $495.00 upgrade
    For the nVidia GeForce GTX 485M with 2GB GDDR5 it is now only a $295.00 upgrade
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Jun 28, 2011
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  38. Cloudfire

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    ahahaha was it my link to Nvidia`s homepage that got all the resellers out? :p
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 28, 2011
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  39. aarondr

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    CRAZY - 485m $-200 is totally worth it. If you wanted a 485m now is the time to get it - just OC to 580m speeds right? Almost wished I had waited and gotten the 485m now over the 6970m (shipping today).
     
    aarondr, Jun 28, 2011
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    Sparxxx, Jun 28, 2011
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  41. Cloudfire

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    How much did 485M cost before?
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 28, 2011
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    Mirakel, Jun 28, 2011
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  43. aduy

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    lol theres going to be so much activity on the resellers site that one of them will probably crash
     
    aduy, Jun 28, 2011
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    Ow man... !?

    Now i cant decide to get 485 or 580 .... :( :(

    Cursed you Nvidia !
     
    little_one, Jun 28, 2011
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  45. tio

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    tio, Jun 28, 2011
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  46. aduy

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    yea i was gonna say 30fps was kind of low for an sli rig like that
     
    aduy, Jun 28, 2011
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    On the P150HM / 8150 it was a $495 upgrade from the 560M. Now it's only a $295 upgrade. On the P170HM / 8170 it was a $595 upgrade from the 560M, now it's only $395. So $200 OFF! :)
     
    MALIBAL, Jun 28, 2011
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    nllptr, Jun 28, 2011
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  50. aduy

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    any news on s1 deals or is that a ways off
     
    aduy, Jun 28, 2011
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