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    Gtx 580m

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by materax, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    Yea just make that check out to M Y T H L O G I C :laugh:
     
  2. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Yeah, that's what we need too. :D
    _
     
  3. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    PFT! I bet you have the card in your possession and have already done the standard routine with GPU-Z, Vantage, temperature etc. You are probably using the laptop with the GTX 580M to write posts here with a stupid grin on your face too :rolleyes: :)
     
  4. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Obviously this is the truth ;)
     
  5. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    yes i totally agree and have experience with such matters. i have had to replace the graphics card on my dell about 4 times now, and unfortunately it was built in to the motherboard, but luckily i had a 3 year warranty. It something to do with not a good enough heatsink, which isnt suprising because the cpu, gpu and the chipset are all hooked up on the same heatsink. although the card was thing that burnt out, it wasn't really nvidias fault, because they didn't design the heatsync, someone at dell did. In the precision version of the D820 the heat syncs for the gpu and cpu were separate, and i haven't heard of any burned out gpus in those.

    so my point is that the faulty card may not be the fault of AMD, it may be the fault of the whoever designed the heatsink or even the laptop it self.
     
  6. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Any links to the failure reports of the 6970M? I haven't seen or heard a single such case yet and would appreciate some details.
     
  7. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    actually now that i think about it the reason that some clevo resellers have pulled them off their website is probably due to the shortage of the chips, not the failure of them. Apple is using the 6970m in their iMacs.
     
  8. ashwindany

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    Read through the http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/587434-whats-going-6970m-21.html#post7634662 thread. They are just isolated reports and there is much debate in that thread but it is enough to cause a small loss of consumer confidence. One guy said his reseller told him 6970s have a high failure rate.
     
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  13. Mirakel

    Mirakel Notebook Guru

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    Who knows, maybe Alienware will offer the GTX 560M and GTX 580M (in SLI configurations) shortly after tomorrow.
    This is purely speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if I made a lucky guess.
     
  14. pkhetan

    pkhetan CopyLEFT ↄ⃝

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    I have got a special price on one SLI GTX 580M kit from Clevo. I promised someone here in the forum to forward the offer to him. If he don't want, May anybody else here is interested. Me, I don't have any compatible notebook.
     
  15. D2 Ultima

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    I *wish* I had a compatible notebook... Actually I wish I could get the 580M to work in my D900F. If I could, I'd forget about buying a P170HM at all.
     
  16. pkhetan

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    I always forget, the D900F/D900C had 2 video cards or only one?
     
  17. ElBlufer

    ElBlufer Notebook/NBR Addict

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    Pkhetan, by any chance can you divulge the cost of a GTX580m yet, or are you under NDA, too?

    I can't afford to put one in yet, but I'm curious.
     
  18. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    The D901C had mobile CPUs and SLI GPUs; but I believe only MXM 2.1 Type IV support. The D900F has desktop CPU and singular GPU, but MXM 3.0b support. That being said, the highest end card you could put into this is a GTX 480M. The 460M and 470M were released as this machine was being replaced by the x7200. It's served my purpose for me though, and I'm ready to move onto the new, nothing-to-sneeze-at mobile CPU market. Cheaper too. Hehe.
     
  19. 5482741

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    The D901C used desktop CPU's as well.
     
  20. Saltius

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    D901C had LGA775 desktop CPUs such as qx9650.
     
  21. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Really? That wasn't what I was told; I asked some with the NP9262, the model my machine replaced, and he claimed it was a mobile CPU. I stand corrected then. XD.
     
  22. Tirenz

    Tirenz Notebook Evangelist

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  25. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    So it's 620mhz core 1500mhz RAM...
     
  26. templar2323

    templar2323 Notebook Guru

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    That vid of crysis on 580m is in SLI configuration, which many people will opt out of buying (cost,size and power consumption) - single card solution will be much more popular. I wish they had a vid of the performance on just a single card....
     
  27. Saltius

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    What the hell.....just 620MHz

    +45MHz = extra $150

    ???
     
  28. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    <s>But, it has more CUDA cores; so the difference is more than just a few MHz</s> <--- my bad. If I had to guess, it's indeed around 15% stronger. I can do the math, if you like.
     
  29. hteng

    hteng Notebook Consultant

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    so what kinda performance are we going to be expecting from these GTX580ms ?
     
  30. templar2323

    templar2323 Notebook Guru

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    Based on that german site translated:

    Nvidia promises a power increase of approximately 20% compared to the GeForce GTX 485m .

    The power consumption is around 100 watts in power query. Depending on the laptop manufacturer will also support Nvidia Optimus. This will turn off the power-hungry graphics card, if there is no demand, and the integrated graphics unit, the CPU is being used.
     
  31. templar2323

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    See seems to be 20% performance increase?

    They are mentioning optimus...which laptop will have that that offers the 580m.... hmmmm??
     
  32. hteng

    hteng Notebook Consultant

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    damn and Im getting the 6970m soon, whats the estimate pricing for the 580m anyway? 20% increase from the 485m as well ? lol
     
  33. templar2323

    templar2323 Notebook Guru

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    yeah from the 485
     
  34. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    GTX485m already had 384 CUDA cores...
     
  35. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Same number of cuda cores as the 485M, ~10% higher core and shader clocks + some optimization = 15-20% performance gain, - enough to quench the bleeding edge thirst till the next shrink.
     
  36. D2 Ultima

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    Comparing the raw data to a GTX 460 desktop-land, the 580M beats it. Flat out. Stock clocks, a GTX 580M beats the GTX 460.
     
  37. Harleyquin07

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    Slightly disappointing that the card is merely a higher-clocked 485m with no additional cores, that would have made my purchase more value for the money knowing I'm not buying into a mere die shrink incremental upgrade.
     
  38. hteng

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    if that's the case, i don't think the 6990m can even beat this (if the 6990 is truly just a unlocked blackcomb that is).
     
  39. DGDXGDG

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    just core oc to 620 and nothing else change even memoey clock the same!??!??hope that spec is wrong!!!
    btw the core is produced in early feburary......compare to most of 485m core produced in 2010 augest though
     
  40. D2 Ultima

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    Wasn't the GTX 560M a mere higher-clocked 460M with no additional cores?
     
  41. Saltius

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    580m may be set a higher core voltage to have better overclock ability.
     
  42. templar2323

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    i hope downclocking is better then the 485 to support longer battery life
     
  43. Tirenz

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    I am just curious if the GTX 485m can be flashed with GTX 580m vBIOS ;).
     
  44. ElBlufer

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    Yep. Looks like they just made similar changes to two cards and released them both as new ones.
     
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    It is, but there was the faint hope that Nvidia would come up with something different for their flagship upgrade. I'll wait and see what my reseller says about 580m pricing before making a decision, value-for-money was never going to be an achievable target with the top-end cards though.
     
  46. D2 Ultima

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    Both the clocks should hit an all-time low of somewhere around 200/120/400, (core/mem/shader), so I don't think it'll change that much.
     
  47. DGDXGDG

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    me too, and i bet 485m can bga the core to 580m core or 560ti core :D
    going to try it if upgrade to 580m and nobody want used 485m......
     
  48. ElBlufer

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    ^^I'm sure that you can sell the 485m, it's still a great card!
     
  49. Kevin

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    I'm more interested in the GTX 570M, and if it's supported by the P170HM.

    If the chip is equal to the 6970M, I'd totally make the switch back to Nvidia, if it isn't priced ridiculously.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Why bro ?

    Are you dissatisfied with 6970 M ?
     
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