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    Intel has moved the Centrino 2 Launch forward to 12:01 AM (midnight) July 15th. Sager's launch will be at that same time

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Donald@Paladin44, Jul 14, 2008.

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    Am I seeing straight or is the M86tu @ $1500? (base price)
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
    ARom, Jul 15, 2008
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    ok i placed my order in a hurry and already realized i made a couple booboos... i had my preconfig all setup in my mind and then none of the things i thought i was going to pick were actually there lol

    what is this 9800 gt and gts business?? why is the gt more expensive than the gts?

    also are the P CPUs the new platform or the Ts?
     
    vestibule1443, Jul 15, 2008
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    I just bought mine from Xotic, and to think all that fussing for nothing.
     
    greyreap, Jul 15, 2008
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    alienware are going to have to lower there price to
     
    jonhapimp, Jul 15, 2008
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    Yeah I think it's fair to say that the PCMW people got screwed...
     
    someguyoverthere, Jul 15, 2008
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    Placed my order for my M860TU from PowerNotebooks :D
    15.4" WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) Glossy LCD
    nVIDIA GeForce 9800M GT 512MB
    Intel® CoreT2 Duo P9500 2.53GHz Processor w/6MB L2 On-die cache (25W) - 1066MHz FSB
    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    4GB (2 SODIMMS) DDR3/1066 Dual Channel Memory (64bit Vista Required)
    320GB SATA II 3GB/s 5,400 RPM Hard Drive (8MB Cache Buffer)
    Combo Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
    7-in-1 Memory Card Reader (MS/MS PRO/MS DUO/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RSMMC)
    Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11a/g/n
    Built-in Bluetooth Wireless
    8-cell Smart Li-ion Battery
    Windows Vista Premium - (64-Bit installed - 64 and 32-bit CD included)
     
    Anomaly10, Jul 15, 2008
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    thats wat i say.. n also how does the better one compare with the 8800gtx!!!
     
    diabolical, Jul 15, 2008
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    @vestibule1443, in desktop field, 9800 GT is actually faster than 9800 GTS I believe.
     
    Nirvana, Jul 15, 2008
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  9. Nirvana

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    the pricing is suggesting that they are both slower than 8800m GTX.
     
    Nirvana, Jul 15, 2008
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    Nice job :p
     
    ARom, Jul 15, 2008
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    Should i change my order and upgrade my 320GB @ 5400 to the 320 @ 7200?
     
    Jum, Jul 15, 2008
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    Based on all current information (Which is to say, not much), the the 9800GT will be the more powerful of the two but until reviews/benchmarks come out we won't know how they compare to the 8800M GTX
     
    Anomaly10, Jul 15, 2008
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    Problems if the 9800gt is slower, many people waiting to get this for college will be in a dilemma wait for the 9800gtx as it may come later than college day usually around the 15th.
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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    who's this 'alienware'? They consistently insult my intelligence with their prices :)
     
    ARom, Jul 15, 2008
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    Yes, the Centrino 2 platform has both T and P processors.

    The performance of the 9800M GT is statistically equivalent to the 8800M GTX. The 9800M GTS is a lower performer.

    vestibule...Just email me your changes and I will make them for you.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jul 15, 2008
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    The 9800M GTX will only be in the NP5796 and the NP9262.

    It will never be in the NP8660.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jul 15, 2008
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    I'm in that boat :(

    But at least there is some variety in between, instead of just 8600M, jump to 8800M GTX.

    Anyways I have an Exam in 7hrs ;)
     
    ARom, Jul 15, 2008
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    What I meant was that people who were waiting for the 5796 were waiting for a stronger system, and if it turns out the 9800gt is slower than the 8800mgtx, then some might want to opt for the stronger 9800m gtx but if the ETA for the 9800m gtx gets changed again that would cause problems.
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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    it seems like the 9800m gt will be alot more stronger than the ati 3870 considering the price
     
    jonhapimp, Jul 15, 2008
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    Do you think they will upgrade the people who did the preorder to the GTX :) lol

    And once again do you think there is a different between 5400 and 7200 RPM?
     
    Jum, Jul 15, 2008
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    with upgrade fee of $365 for 9800m GTX, i hope it's more than just 15% of performance gain.
     
    Nirvana, Jul 15, 2008
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    Would two 512 MB 9800M GTs in SLI be better than a single 1 GB 9800M GTX?
     
    zdn1, Jul 15, 2008
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    the 320 7200 rpm will probably be considerably better than the 320 5400 as 320 5400 was = 200 7200, so 320 7200 higher speed with the higher density = bam
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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    :) i cant wait to receive this beauty of a machine!
     
    Jum, Jul 15, 2008
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    I bet it will! :D
     
    Nirvana, Jul 15, 2008
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    @ Minkang, It will probably also be louder and create more heat =P. But yes, the performance should be noticably better.
     
    Anomaly10, Jul 15, 2008
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    What I meant was that I couldn't care less, as long as I get something > 8600M/9500M/8700M by August 28th, I'm good.
     
    ARom, Jul 15, 2008
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    I wish someone would answer the questions about the 8800M GTX vs the 9800s that are offered by xoticpc.
     
    Miho, Jul 15, 2008
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    Well we don't know that the WD 320 7200 was considerably quiet and cool, but it depends on what Sager uses, always depends on the brand.
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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    wow...these are very nice systems.
     
    Rorschach, Jul 15, 2008
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    Paladin did (compare video cards)
     
    metromike, Jul 15, 2008
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    i just sent a ticket for the change to the 7200 and the P9500 :) Is it worth going up to the P9600?
     
    Jum, Jul 15, 2008
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    I already did in post 115..."The performance of the 9800M GT is statistically equivalent to the 8800M GTX. The 9800M GTS is a lower performer."
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jul 15, 2008
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    Paladin is that deduced from looking at specs or actual benchmarks / performance somewhere?
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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    another question for paladin: how does the 9800gt stack up against the 8800gtx in terms of power consumption and heat?
     
    armagideontime, Jul 15, 2008
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    But I remember on nVidia's site it said the 9800m GT has 64 core processors (which I assume mean stream processors) whereas the 8800m GTX has 96 stream processors.

    Unless this was just a marketing gimmick to please people even more at release.
     
    Dreidel, Jul 15, 2008
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    The performance has been measured with actual benchmarks.

    Power consumption and heat will also be statistically equivalent.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jul 15, 2008
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    Oh, sorry! Thanks :D
    This thread has moved so fast I guess I missed it.
     
    Miho, Jul 15, 2008
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    It was figured out already that the leaked specs for the 9800m gt where incorrect on the nvidia site. >.> Come on guys its not rocket science the more powerful card cost more.....
     
    Rorschach, Jul 15, 2008
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    When will we see the 9800M GTX in the 9262?
     
    zdn1, Jul 15, 2008
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    Jesus, just go to their web site, they are already up!
     
    Nirvana, Jul 15, 2008
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    Actually the core processors might have been correct but the 9xxx series uses something called shader optimization 2.0 or something which increases the effectiveness by 40-50% is what i read.
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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    Wow that is good to hear.
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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    i'm going to wait for dell to hurry up and revise their xps series to get one
     
    dondadah88, Jul 15, 2008
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    Paladin44 and justin do you guys think you can post a picture of gpuz w/ m9800gt
    and also cpuz w/ p9500 or t9400

    Thx
     
    Sgt.McRuff, Jul 15, 2008
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    Since everyone is here might as well post this.
    1. How quiet is the quiet/power saving button. Is it quieter than the current fn+1 low auto / fn + 3 med?
    2. Are there still the OC limitations through bios or are all the processors OC'able through bios now.
    3. Do you guys expect any delays with the 9800gtx ETA or is it pretty solid?
     
    MKang25, Jul 15, 2008
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  49. Slaughterhouse

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    What's the difference between T and P processors besides wattage?
     
    Slaughterhouse, Jul 15, 2008
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  50. dondadah88

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    one is for performance the other is battery optimize

    which one idk
     
    dondadah88, Jul 15, 2008
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