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    Meaker's next project ;)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Meaker@Sager, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Maybe it keeps it powered long enough to flush in a power cut. Looks like a standard power measuring resistor there on the front for power modding :)
     
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    Please do tell because 80w tdp is holding it back :D
     
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    On the front, leading up from the mxm power tabs is certainly one.
     
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    votehart Notebook Geek

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    Fantastic tech. When it is not connected to the radiators can it be used as standard heatsink? These quieter fans? How much quieter? I am interested in purchasing both.
     
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    How much for the rtx 3070? Also maybe I’ll need a modified heat sink to fit the card in my p750?
     
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    I think he listed that earlier as something like $1800?
     
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    1750$ rtx3070. You will need a custom heatsink for the p750, which costs $ 250
     

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    Yes, this heatsink can be used without a liquid cooling unit connected, but the temperature of the video card will be slightly higher than on the standard heatsink, and the processor temperature will be lower than on the standard heatsink. The fans are much quieter and give a higher air flow density, that is, they need almost half the speed to supply a volume of air equal to that of the standard fans at maximum speed. For purchase, contact Maxim, I laid out his contact.
     
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    Thank you. I will track down Maxim.
     
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    The hobby was never cheap but even mxm cards are being impacted by the shortage.
     
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    That’s true. I’m just considering whether I upgrade or get a barebone x170. The market currently does not have anything interesting for me anymore. And my wallet is grateful for that.
     
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    We can bring you x170kmg with any rtx30 series card if you want)
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    My heatsink should hopefully ship in the next day or two so the final countdown begins, i've been staring at this 3070 for a while itching to try it so fingers crossed shipping goes well.
     
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    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    RTX3070 is a beast of a card coming from a GTX1060 could never go back to pascal after using RTX GPU.

    Goodluck with the mods man and keep me updated as its giving me idea's when I bring back my GT72 to life.

    Sent from my SNE-LX1 using Tapatalk
     
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    Oh there will be pics, I've promised a couple of people already.
     
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    ViktorV Notebook Evangelist

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    I got a processor mutant qtj1 engineering i9-10980hk on a lga1151 substrate. The launch on p870tm1-g was successful, but it did not want to work with all the memory, it successfully launched on Samsung 2666Mhz RAM. I raised its frequency to 4700 Mhz for all cores and 4900 for one core with an undervolt of -125mV, the processor works stably, the temperature under load is 65-75 degrees.
     

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    Do you have more pics how it looks like in your P870TM?
     
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    And how it looks like in the P870TM?
     
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    How is the processor installed on a socket?It is installed like a normal processor
     

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    Yes. And with stock P870TM Bios?
     
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    No, you need to install a BIOS from Dsanke with support for BGA1440 (9900ks 128g) processors or patch your BIOS yourself in the Coffee Time program.
     
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    Ok, but with DSanke Bios there is no need to do the pinmod with 9900k or something else, right?
     
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    For mutant processors, a pin mod is not needed, but for ordinary non-ES processors of the 9th generation in DM / DM2-3 / KM laptops, a pin mod is required.The pin mod is not required only on TM laptop models.
     
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    Ok, because I have P870TM-GS
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Nice, looking forward to seeing the madness! :D
     
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    It's not a mutant processor, it's the solution to BGA trash, when BGA trash is sent down our necks.
     
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    It has cleared Russian export checks and is on its way :)
     
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    Yes, they had some fun)))) this processor has a crystal from the i9-9900k with the latest technical process, that is, you essentially buy an i9-9900k for $ 140, as for me it is quite a reasonable choice))))
     
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    Ok so just checked out the old pump is in good working order and the fittings are still ok. Looks good, so have ordered some fresh fluid/tubing along with a fluid temp sensor. Also a slim EK 280MM radiator to go with my existing fan arrangement.

    I may use Aida pro to feed temps back to the controller directly so I can have curves for CPU/GPU temps built in.

    Just the ground cable for the pump is showing a bit of abuse so a little soldering needed for that. Otherwise I am pleased. Cleaned out the pump and it ran strong :)

    EK D5 pump/reservoir combo
    EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream SE 280
    EK 13/10 tubing
    2xCorsair Maglev 140MM fans
    Monsoon black chrome compression fittings
    Mayhems X1 Red fluid

    Plus I have some old angled fittings. My hope it to have it all sit within the stand as it currently is.

    Here is a video of how it is currently setup. I'll have to change the fan behaviour as it reads only off the input temps of the exhaust sensors. You can get Aida 64 pro to feed sensor data into the aquaero from your system and give it a virtual sensor of your actual CPU/GPU temps.

     
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    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Guess @Meaker@Sager is going to be water cooling and over clocking the snot out of his system.

    VRM craters inbound, so best get popcorn ready.

    Sent from my SNE-LX1 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm maybe going to re-enforce the VRM too.
     
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    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    What with plutonium reactor

    Sent from my SNE-LX1 using Tapatalk
     
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    With the missing phases, as far as the power supply from the machine and cooling is concerned cooling a single 3070 is super easy compared to shunt modded 1080 SLI doing about 550W.
     
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    You do know I messing with you right. I can't wait to see the numbers.

    I would shunt the 3070 though as the 140w power limit doesn't leave head room for vram and vcore over clocking or at least mine doesn't.

    Sent from my SNE-LX1 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'll take it step by step and see where things are. A shunt mod of some kind will be likely.
     
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    [​IMG]

    I need some slightly longer screws to be able to fit the front face plate but here is a mock up of how the radiator fits in.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Ok new screws arrived and that's the front as it should be.
     
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    Is the russian cooler a hybrid water/air unit?
     
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    Yes it is a hybrid.
     
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    Yes, this radiator can work without connecting a water cooling system
     
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    I'm grabbing a flow meter and some extra sensors to feed in all the data :)
     
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    Sounds like a fun project for sure. Looking forward to read about the progress.
     
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    So here is the mock up of positions, pump cabling is fixed and ready to go. Waiting on the flow meter but the system is getting there :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Looks good, I'd still call it mobile in my book :D
     
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    I could put some quick release fittings in there so it would be detachable.
     
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    Heatsink is now in the country at the first international hub so hopefully wont take too long to get here now.
     
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    Slight change of plans, no flow meter for now as it was out of stock and it's a bit of a wait for one to come in so I've just plumbed in a straight run of tubing there. I've got tubes waiting now to plumb up so I'll be able to get it working very quickly when it arrives.
     
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    I've had a note from parcel force it's due for delivery today :)
     
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