New 120hz Laptops Displays = Gorgeous!

I got the same panel from Aliexpress a few months back for $280 (including cable + 2 day shipping), when re-sellers where charging $600+ for it.

 

This kind of stupidity happens because the world is overrun with gullible consumers that don't know any better. I think we can safely blame a lot of the "new tech trash" that people are gobbling up like Skittles candy on the same problem.

@bloodhawk was that a package deal with the eDP cable included with the LCD, or did the vendor sell it as a separate part with your order? Wonder if we can find the 2560*1440 120Hz 17-inch screen the same way soon?

 

Eurocom always price gouges lol..

 

The industry has some huge markups, but not all of it is from resellers; the middle man (vendor/distributor/supplier) has their own markup. It's sort of like when people think a mechanic is making whatever they quote someone for on a part. They're not. Buying direct almost always saves you money.

 

Yes, this absolutely correct. Companies that sell Clevo computers and parts are almost always competitive. As an example, I was looking to buy an extra 330W AC adapter the other day and three different companies (including Eurocom) were selling them for exactly the same price... to the penny. In most cases products have an MSRP. If you can buy it for less than MSRP that is a win and the vendor is making a smaller profit. Some businesses choose to offset smaller profit margins by making up for it in high volume. You cannot do that without high volume. Companies are in business to turn a profit, and if they cannot there is no point in keeping the doors open. At any rate, it's never "gouging" unless the vendor charges more than MSRP. If the MSRP is ludicrous that's a totally different issue.

 

See founders edition from Nvidia

 

How good is the MSI AUO 120hz 5ms display for a TN panel? It has Gsync too right?

 

What resolution are you referring to? QHD or FHD? 120Hz QHD is Gsync; 120Hz FHD is not G-Sync.

 

The MSI panel that I know of is not an AUO screen. It's a Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 120 Hz FHD TN screen. That one has no G-Sync... for reasons unclear. Of the AUO screens that are 120 Hz, only the QHD TN screen is G-Sync, whereas the FHD IPS screen is not.

See: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-wingman-2-0-batman-3-0-lounge.794538/page-75
http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GS73VR-6RF-Notebook-Review.172138.0.html

Hadriel

 

As far as I know Chi Mei is not participating in NVidia G-sync program. For now only AUO and Samsung are participating. Eurocom is already shipping Sky X7E2 and Sky X9E2 with QHD 120Hz G-sync panels running in Gsync over 144Hz.

 

Hi guys, does anyone know that part number for the 15.6" Full HD, 120Hz 5ms Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080) that Sager is offering with their high end 15 inch notebooks? Also, I currently have an Asus GL502VY (980m) with g-sync. I was wondering if I could replace my current 60Hz display with that 120Hz display? Will g-sync work fine for me with that 120Hz display?

 

I'm waiting for my P651RS-G (with luck i should have it before Christmas). I'm little worried about display because there is no info about it! All i know it gonna to be 120Hz AUO B156HTN05.2 I hope its quality will be at least somewhere in 3K territory...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Aorus-X7-v6-Notebook-Review.182897.0.html

 

@Legion343 where did you find this part number for the screen? This is the same panel used in the Aorus x5 v6 and Alienware 15 r3 with the 120hz screen.

 

I have tormented Dream Machines support for this info for some time... You mean that it's the same panel on new crappy Alienware or Aorus so do you know any reviews of these?

 

@ste180 Eurocom has the 15.6" 120Hz panel available separately under the Sky X4E2 upgrades section. Pricing is $296 before shipping/tax. You will have to inject the Clevo G-SYNC cookie into your NVIDIA DSDT in your BIOS for G-SYNC.
@Legion343 I am saying that this is the same/similar panel which is being used on those two models. I don't know of any (professional) reviews that are out yet.

EDIT:
lol, Eurocom jacked the price up $117 to $413 for the panel only.

 

Guys is there any chance tha my laptop would take the new 120hz 5ms screens??
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Thanks

 

I believe there was a 120hz screen available for that model when it was originally sold, if I remember right. It wasn't 5ms though. For the life of me, I couldn't find the model number, I'm not sure if anybody else might know on that. New panels might not be the same connection, and also would probably need some tweaks to make them fit the computer.

 

ask @D2 Ultima, he has that 120Hz screen in his machine, that @pat@XOTICPC is referring to

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

It was.

LP173WF2-TPB1

And here is a link to a place to reliably purchase one from http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/Clevo/P370SM3/

Zero chance. Different screw mounting orientation AND different eDP revision, let alone cable.

Canada tax + low availability, probably. Their 17" 120Hz panels recently took a HUGE price cut; I suppose as stock stabilized etc. Alternately consider buying panels from http://www.laptopscreen.com/ as recommended to me by @Donald@HIDevolution

 

Does anyone have any experience with the 15" 120hz G-sync screen? I heard it has extremely narrow view angles..

 

Any word on other AUO panels coming to 15.6" in the next few months? I know it's not particularly specific to Clevo at this point but would like to continue to have compatible displays similar to those available to the P775 and so on.

Looking at higher resolution like a QHD 120Hz or QFHD 100% AdobeRGB which have impressive specs and pretty good reviews. If not, the new FHD 120Hz is no slouch and I'm sure the color reproduction is still acceptable.

 

There are two FHD 120Hz 17" panels. A Chi Mei and an AUO. AUO colour reproduction is supposedly amazing. Chi Mei is kind of meh. But the Chi Mei has much faster response times so for gamers it may be better to choose for FHD.

 

Does the 120Hz AUO B156HTN05.2 15.6" panel come with g-sync? Can I replace my LG Philips LP156W6 screen with the AUO B156HTN05.2?

 

Yes it does but I have heard it has really bad view angles and I am yet to meet anyone who has seen it live

 

The TN will have poorer vertical viewing angles but good ones can have pretty decent horizontal ranges.

 

Exactly I can deal with 'non ideal viewing angles' as I don't intend to look at it at ridiculous angles.. That's why I'm waiting for some feedback as 120hz 5ms is just.. sexy

 

Horizontal is listed as minimum 120 degrees to 140 typical horizontal total.

Rise and fall are supposed to be 5ms typical and 100-120 degrees vertical.

 

Be aware that 5ms is pretty much just a rating that the manufacturer gives to a best-case scenario. The B173QTN01.0 is rated at 5ms but has been tested twice by notebookcheck in two different notebooks and got 10ms B2W/31ms G2G and 13ms B2W/21ms G2G respectively. Additionally, one of the tests (the latter) detected PWM on it while the other did not. Additionally, the AUO B173HAN01.2 1080p 120Hz panel was touted to be 5ms for months by many ODMs (far less OEMs) until it was suddenly given conflicting information as being 25ms. Now, it needs testing to be rendered certain if it's closer to 5ms or 25ms, and nobody really knows.

So be rather wary of that 5ms rating. It could be a pretty bad panel that only has 120Hz going for it.

 

Meh I think I will just go with the standard for my region 17.3'' 1080p 75hz IPS with 870DM2 chassis. It's a good panel I saw it already once and liked it.

I'd have to wait 6 weeks for the 3k 120hz option..

 

Do you have the model numbers of both of them? It would REALLY help me out.

 

AUO B173HAN01.2 = 1080p 120Hz IPS
Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 (CMN1747) = 1080p 120Hz TN

 

TN has a faster response rate naturally though.

 

Yes certainly, I know. I just meant to say that the 5ms rating should be considered a cherry-picked "best case" scenario for response time. It likely won't be 5ms.

 

The data sheet does quite 5ms typical for both rise and fall.

 

Hmm, I thought the AUO B173HAN01.1 = 1080p 120Hz IPS not the HAN01.2? Or are they both 1080p 120Hz IPS, just one is Matte and one is Glossy? http://www.eurocom.com/ec/release(345)ec says it is the HAN01.1.

Thanks!

 

The 1080p 120Hz + G-Sync panel in the GT73 is the nicest one I've ever had, even better than the IPS from my GT72. The high color gamut, along with the high contrast and deep black levels, makes quite the impression, very vivid and beautiful. It's the Chi Mei N173HHE-G32.

Hopefully the next 1440p panel isn't a piece of crap. I'd love to have one.

btw Notebook Check measured it's response at 6.8ms

 

I don't know why Eurocom says that, but the B173HAN01.1 is a 60Hz IPS panel. http://www.panelook.com/B173HAN01.1_AUO_17.3_LCM_parameter_28274.html

It's only 72% NTSC gamut though?

6.8ms B2W, but 26ms G2G.

 

Yeah I am aware the screen might not be great that's why I'm waiting for somebody with some real life experience with it.. There is really not much info about it around yet//

 

It covers more of AdobeRGB and sRGB than the 60Hz IPS displays, which is why it's a much more vivid display than what I'd grown accustomed to previously. I think the LGD0459 is like 55%/84% and this Chi Mei is 76%/100%. The only screen doing better currently is the AUO 4K.

Has anyone yet measured the technical specs of the 1080p/120Hz IPS Clevo is using? Or is there a data sheet I could see?

 

Ah, I see. The 17" IPS panels from LG and AUO are 72% NTSC but the 15" ones I don't know about. I don't care enough about 15" laptops to hunt them I guess xD.

The AUO 1080p 120Hz is rated for 94% NTSC, which means it should be by and large the best panel outside of the 4K AUO which is meant to be 100% adobe RGB (though only does about 88% normally; needs calibrating to get closer to 100%, which I find to be really dumb if it's gonna be rated that much higher).

Adobe RGB and NTSC have about the same size of colour space coverage, but on the colour coverage grid they cover slightly different spots. That's from what I saw when a friend sent me some screenshots using a Spyder5Elite today. So 100% NTSC is about equal to the number of colours that 100% adobe RGB covers, but 100% NTSC != 100% Adobe RGB.

 

There's so little information out here I didn't know the AUO panel was that strong in the color spectrum. If it was G-Sync certified I'd probably buy one and add it to my GT73. Unfortunately that's something I can't give up.

 

Ah. I think gsync would be nice if it worked properly. I've heard of too many issues and problems with input lag from it to jump on it. If I could get it on that AUO panel, great. If not, well oh well.

But yeah, there is so little info about these newer panels. All I know is that they're all too good to be true, for the most part. I really wish that 1080p IPS was aimed at 5ms instead of 25ms, because it's pretty much what I would be looking for if I had to get a new single GPU laptop anytime soon. The 1440p I could probably live with if not for the colour banding. I know it will bother me to no end, I notice things like that a LOT.

 

I have the data sheet on the 15.6" panel. It's listed as 8 bit colour too

 

Guys is the 17'' 3k 120hz screen for P870DM3 really amazing? In Poland they only sell with the 1080p 75hz option and would have to wait like 2 months for the screen which is obviously not ideal..

So.. would the 3k be worth the wait?

 

Hi Kevin.

Did you tried dismantle your laptop already? If so or in the future.. would you check the eDP pin end connector to that new Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 panel of yours?

I'm interested into try to plug in some of the new 120Hz 17.3" panels into my old Alienware 17 R1. I'm talking of the new models mentioned:

AUO B173HAN01.2 = 1080p 120Hz IPS

or

Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 (CMN1747) = 1080p 120Hz TN

Some technigyan told me that it's all about the connectors as the new video drivers will make new screens compatible in a way.

 

From another thread it looks like if it's the same as te DM2, it's a B173QTN01.0 (AUO1096), and might have some issues with faint horizontal lines on the display according to some users (though others say they're not a big deal so YMMV)

 

The screen is trash tier.

 

Well that helps clear things up a bit

 

Depends on what you intend to do with the machine really, if it's primarily gaming it makes a lot of sense.

 

I hear what you're saying, but for me, the screen has to be good to look at for hours a day. Even beyond the interlacing issue, which is inexcusable, the technical specs are not top tier.

I mean, I have high standards for screens, and I don't hold anyone to them, but the 686:1 contrast and 0.5 blacks as measured by Notebook Check just isn't good, but that's for me.

The line issue is just the reason Sager, Aorus, and Alienware shouldn't even be selling it, at least not without informing people ahead of time.

1440p is definitely the move we need, I've been wanting that for years now. It's unfortunate such a mediocre screen is the jumping off point. Hopefully next year we get the resolution and high quality tech specs in the same panel.