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    New 120hz Laptops Displays = Gorgeous!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by PMV, Aug 28, 2016.

  1. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Hopefully something new shows up at CES. And hopefully it's not something stupid like a 15.6" 8K panel.
     
  2. Eurocom Support

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    We have both 120Hz FHD non Gsync and 120Hz QHD 3K Gsync available. We ship to Poland too. Check with our Sales Team [email protected]. Mowimy tez po Polsku.
     
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    skandal Notebook Evangelist

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    Is there any model planed to have a 15.6", eDP, 8-bit and high-refresh rate?

    According to panelook the only 15.6" eDP 8-bit is a Samsung panel that's very hard to find.
    I have an IPS AUO panel that is very good, but being a 6bit panel the banding is quite noticeable.
     
  4. Blacky

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    Any news if the P670 will get a QHD 120Hz screen ?
     
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    Nothing announced as of yet that I'm aware of. Always hopeful though.
     
  6. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    I honestly agree. Interlacing is unacceptable on phones and even more unacceptable on a multi-thousand dollar laptop. I plan on upgrading my P7 Pro to a 120Hz FHD panel some time in December (2016) and I only hope the AUO 120HZ FHD is good and doesn't have any interlacing.
     
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    Spootnuke Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are you going to purchase the panel yourself and install it? I'm trying to figure out the average cost of these panels for the average consumer to perform the upgrade themselves.

    Especially one that specs at 120 Hz /15.6" / G Sync is Negligible.
     
  8. skandal

    skandal Notebook Evangelist

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    It seems that 15.6" are limited to 60/75 Hz refresh rates.
     
  9. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Well, that was an interesting experience. The 3 people I talked to on NBR and 1 person I talked to on TechInferno were all wrong - I can't upgrade my panel to 120Hz. Eurocom was completely right, it won't fit, they physically showed me it will not fit, the hinge is too small on bottom of my laptop. Thanks Clevo.

    Thanks to Kevin at Eurocom for physically showing me it will not fit. Very friendly and helpful guys at Eurocom.
     
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  10. Meaker@Sager

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    Not any more :)

    The original design will be specified for the intended panel, if future designs change the design rules it's not really clevo's fault.
     
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  11. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Fair enough but as a consumer/prosumer I must admit it is still very disappointing that I thought I could upgrade my laptop to a 120Hz panel. Still a good experience with Eurocom and I still like Clevo as well, but it is disappointing. Oh well, life goes on. :)
     
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  12. skandal

    skandal Notebook Evangelist

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    Where can I find them? And what is the panel model? Because I'm trying to look them up on panelook and nothing shows up :(
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    B156HTN05.2 From AUO.
     
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  14. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Can't find connection type on that model, eDP?
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    2 Lane eDP on the connector.
     
  16. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Thanks!
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    Not a problem, hopefully it is the first of many similar high speed panels :)
     
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    B156HTN05.2 this panel is 8bits or 6bits . He works in p65xrp model ?

    Thanks
     
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    8 bit and works in any 30 pin eDP system.
     
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  20. skandal

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    THANKS :D

    Do you know any European shop selling them?

    EDIT: It's a TN model :( and I'm not sure if I can achieve the targeted refresh rate with optimus enabled.
     
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    The intel IGP should do it since its in the firmware of the panel. Yes it is TN for fast pixel response times.
     
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    I'm confused. Isn't the AUO B156HTN05.2 1080p 120Hz 5ms G-sync screen for the NP8153, an AHVA (IPS like) panel? Or am I just looking at the wrong specs? The only spec I could find online said AHVA, not a TN.

    https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/b156htn0-15-6-tft-lcd-panel-60547515050.html

    Also I don't know whether this screen is already certified or pending by nvidia, although its advertised as g-sync panel. Any users who got this screen on their clevo could comment?
     
  23. Meaker@Sager

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    That link has a 1600x900 panel in the description and a 768p panel in the details. I've posted the viewing angles and specs which matter most :)
     
  24. tlprtr19

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    Thanks Meaker, so it is a TN. Do you know whether it is nvidia certified or just advertised? Have you used/seen the screen in person (how were the colors head on as compared to the stock 60Hz IPS)?
     
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    Not in person I am using the spec sheet.

    It is G-sync ready.
     
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    Not to sidetrack this thread but..

    Can I replace 1080p 75hz screen on an older Clevo P775DM1 (GTX 980) to one these 2560x1440 / 120Hz ?
    Are they on the same eDP cable and it's plug & play?

    Thank you in advance!
     
  27. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Spec I have doesn't show the exact part, but looks like eDP is the connection type at least. Might not work if the connector is in a different spot though, the cable might not reach.
     
  28. i_pk_pjers_i

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    Plus the bezel might not fit as well, etc.
     
  29. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    True, though newer screens are fairly homogenized in form factor, even down to having multiple screw holes to accommodate various frames. It becomes a bigger deal the thinner the lid/screen assembly is.
     
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    FYI: To any of the XoticPC reps out there. Your 120Hz panel option is labeled as IPS on the website. No IPS panels have such a low response time. You can correct it to "TN" before customers get that without knowing.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, I've notified our web team.
     
  32. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    OK should be fixed now for all affected items, but do let us know if there's any that were missed/still showing the incorrect information.
     
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  34. i_pk_pjers_i

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    Depends on how old the laptop you want to upgrade is, I suppose. My P770ZM wasn't upgradeable to any of the newer panels, but yeah a P775DM1 may work.
     
  35. bennyg

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    Can anyone mention anything about hardware revisions of the B173QTN01.0? I've (finally!) found a couple of listings on ebay with H/W v0A, F/W v1.

    I suspect the intermittent display issues I'm having with my super cheap 4K panel are either it's an earlier hardware revision (v2 vs current B173ZAN01.0's which are v3 and apparently a lot of the panels have failed QC over the years I may have got a bad one) or the cable is either bad (lucky I have a spare to test soon) or isn't installed properly. Would like to ensure that in future I avoid a QC failed panel flicked off to a chinese warehouser to flip without them testing it.
     
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    Eurocom is now shipping the AUO B156HTN05.2 15.6" 120Hz panels. People that are upgrading will also need a new cable.
     
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    EVGA SC 15 to be the first 120hz IPS panel on a laptop? Or the two sources just made a mistake?



    at 7:00


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm skeptical, but we'll see when they are released.
     
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    What type of issues are you having ?

    This is the panel that I got -

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...4k-picture-guide.787821/page-15#post-10226951

    [​IMG]
     
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    That is indeed weird. You can check if it gets worse by shaking the laptop a bit. And seeing if the flickering intensifies. Or happens more often. That would mean a cable or connector is loose.
     
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    Rather than derail this thread I'll start another tonight. But here's a video to try and show it as best I can when the phone is recording at 30fps and the screen has a 60fps flicker...

     
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    That feels like either a faulty / loose cable. I have never seen or experienced that issue before though. Or.migjt be the panel itself.
    It's difficult to judge though without eleminaring each factor individually.
     
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    i have the option to get a Clevo P651HP6-G
    Is the AUO B156HTN05.2 (15", TN, supposedly 5ms response time, 8-bit colour I believe) worth the extra fee of ~80€ which is about 85,21$ or should i aim for the 1080p 60Hz ?

    What do you mean?
     
  46. i_pk_pjers_i

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    Perhaps try turning off GPU/hardware acceleration in Chrome?
     
  47. L00K3R4

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    So the P651HS-G is capable of having a 120Hz TN panel, but then ofcourse... does a 120Hz TN panel uses significantly more power than a 60Hz IPS panel?

    On the **Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge**
    people mentioned the following:
    But the difference was between a 1080p screen and a 4k screen, and tbh... the battery consumption does make sense to me.
    But how energy friendly is the 120hz TN compared to 60hz IPS? Scan.co.uk tells me that IPS uses more battery than TN... but the comparison they used was between monitors. Someone any more info or can push me into the right direction? As a student I love the ~5h batterylife that "Pyrmon" has.
     
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    I would love to be proven wrong, but I honestly doubt that anyone gets a Clevo performance notebook for battery life... My X7200 can do barely half an hour. I think 2-3 hours are max, unless you plan on heavy undervolting. I have never tried an "Optimus" Notebook though (god bless), if you can disable the dedicated GPU it will surely squeeze out more battery life. Yet, it comes at a cost, at least in the previous generations of those Clevo notebooks with an integrated GPU, I recall people often having problems related to the video output and GPU switch hassles.

    One thing is for sure, that the 120hz display is more power hungry. You could possibly underclock your screen to 60hz in situations where you depend on battery though, and see how much more time you get :)
     
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    For studying (and keeping in mind that my university is a monster from the stone age in behavior as well as in the amount of wallplugs), Optmus is a good thingie imho since MS office doesn't need a GTX1060/1070, especially when a simple HD Graphics 530/630 is capable of handling that too (^,^)

    That is a smart one! So.... has anyone tried it already?
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

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    It will use more power but a 120hz panel can be set to 60hz if you need to and not use more power in that case. A 4k panel will use the same power no matter what resolution selected.
     
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