New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

why wait for haswell? honestly very little software if any are fully utilizing quad cores at their highest speed, only certain games probably are. software guys cant seem to catchup to the hardware imo

 

You have got to be kidding me. I stay up until midnight and haul myself out here on a slow 3DS for this?!? Outrageous. To make things worse, my computer died again even more for good than the last two times 2 days ago, so I'm in a very bad mood, and this is the first chance I've had as of then to make it back here. The last thing I want is bad news. I haven't heard of this bogus 8th thing before, everyone has said 5th. Good night.

 

ouch, tempers seem to run quite hot now. the NDA should better be lifted soon, otherwise the resellers will have a fullblown customer-revolt on their hands, burying them with their UNWANTED wads of cash

cheers

 

a little offtopic, but after reading this review about Lucid Virtu MVP i would love to see this implemented in laptops as well. Very nie performance boost in 1080p resolution, don't you think?

It could be rather effective to see the performance increase from 50 to 60fps in games on a laptop than from 100 to 115 on a desktop PC!

 

Everyone's just gotta keep their cool.

I can probably speak for all of us who got screwed, per say, with the sandy bridge delays followed by a full blown recall, last spring.

I am are now quite humbled on new technology releases, especially of that coming from intel.

Just know that it will be released when its ready and you will enjoy your notebook to the fullest when you get it!

 

I know that I and a few other resellers have said the 5th but also have said many times its subject to change. That was the date originally provided. As Donald mentioned the NDA is Intels and we all just have to go by it

 

Actually, what we have always said, and what has been posted on our website for weeks, is the $50 deferred shipment discount was through the 5th with shipping ETA of the 12th.

Now the $50 deferred shipment discount has been extended to the 6th, with shipping to BEGIN in the 9th but only for those with confirmed and paid orders, and shipping will be in the order received. There are so many orders already in line people will have to wait for their turn, but all confirmed and paid orders should be shipped within 10 business days or sooner.

I recommend anger management treatment for those who have difficulty dealing with reality

 

Just out of curiosity, are people paying for configurations they do not know about? Or how does it work.

 

Once the new models release those who have already submitted their specifications can then change model or specifications prior to being released to production. That is what my reference to "confirmed" orders intends to mean.

Those who have already submitted their specifications should go back to their vendor's website on or after the 8th to see what is available and then notify their vendor of any changes they would like to make.

 

For pre orders we do not charge until everything is in stock so placing a pre order gets you your spot in line for incoming stock. There is also the $50 deferred shipping discount and once everything is in stock order changes can be made.

 

Thanks for the explanation guys.

 

But... if there are going to PxxxEM models with SB and Kepler, why does that have to wait for Intel's NDA? IB isn't in those models though :O

 

Actually that is a pretty good question.

Maybe it's the platform(chipset) that is under NDA?

 

No worries. You guys were just the ones I specifically remembered. I do remember you saying that it was subject to change now that you mention it, but when we're excited we sometimes forget the potential negatives. I am not and was not upset about it. These things happen. It's only 3 days and I'm not buying until May anyway. I'm just anxious to see it already.

 

Yeah, and it won't ship until the last week of April...

Good to know all the pricing and details but it would be another killer wait.

 

So just to be clear...lol. The details will be released on Sunday the 8th? Or AFTER the 8th? As in the 9th

 

What he said ^--^

Easter Sunday.

 

I'm getting this fear that the 8th will roll around and we'll be told that the NDA doesn't expire until the 11th.

 

I really hope that we can order the P151EM with Sandy Bridge and GTX670M next week right after the NDA. Considering the GTX 6xx series is already out should we be able to get a laptop before April 29th if it is a laptop with Sandy Bridge and a GTX 670M?

I would like to wait for Ivy but I really don't think its worth it...

EDIT: I just got this response from RJ Tech's support

"According to the newest info we got this morning, the P151EM w/nVidia GTX 670M won't be available till 04/20, so we will ship out your order in the week of 04/23 - 04/27."

 

Lets just put it this way, if its easter sunday by a minute on your clock check some websites, there will be new information on them about a lot of things

 

where did you placed your order

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the sandy bug resolved around this time last year?

It's not reality I don't like, it's corporate trolls who force me to spend the rest of my spring break doing nothing but playing Melee against computer players.

 

Might be me pointing out the obvious but you can place preorders on the 6xxM and Ivy Bridge cpus from Deviltech

 

Yes, the sandy bridge chipset flaw was corrected around March of last year. Intel found it and issued a recall just after the HM models started shipping, so very few were even out before the recall brought them back. Even then, the flaw itself was extremely minor and only affected the SATA connections on the old ports and would show up only after pretty significant usage. It was good that Intel caught it early, but realistically it would have affected very few people over the lifespan of the laptop.

 

just placed an order at xoticpc =]....

 

Does the P151EM have 2 hard drive slots? Or only the P150EM? Either way I could just put the second in the Optical bay; I almost never use CD's and could buy an external CD reader/burner or just borrow it from a friend; I would only really need it to Install Windows.

 

what did u order? it's nothing but the old HM models... and the NP270WM

 

Neither of them have 2 HDD bays. The P170EM has 2.

You might look into installing Windows via USB flash drive.

 

Couldn't I just install Windows 7 off of an external CD drive?

Also the Clevo 151EM Will support 2 drives right? One in optical bay? Or will it not have enough Sata connections??

I want to use this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148564

as a cache

and then have a HD in the normal bay

 

You can install windows via DOK to. look for it in google, it's easy.

 

Interesting.. You might put that in the normal bay to get sata III speeds, and put the HDD in the optical. Idk how much it would matter though.

 

So I will be able to do this correct ? Can I install with an external optical drive ? If not I'll install from an SD card. It will be epic .

 

I agree. If you're getting a 50g SSD you're using that pretty much only as a boot drive for your OS seeing that Windows 7 will eat a lot of that up. Remember that a 50g DDS formated will have ~6-8 gigs or so used up. Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit) is 16 GBs.

This will leave little room for anything else.

With this in mind... if your optical drive is less optimal than the 1st HD bay then your loosing out on most benefit for the SSD

I would definitely put the SSD in the main HD slot and the HDD in the optical bay.

Another option is to just get an external HDD. I would much prefer that to an external optical. JMHO on that note though.

 

Its a boost drive it acts as a smart cache for data on the other HDD . And I don't need a CD drive its pointless to me. I'd much rather have the extra Performance.

 

How did you manage to do that? I'm not seeing any of the P****EM models listed

 

You can install windows from a USB drive, there are lots of tutorials on how to create the file system to do so.

Also, why dont you look into a mSATA SSD. The EMs come with a msata slot that you can put say a 120gb ssd into and have a nice boot\os\program drive, a hard drive for storage, and an optical drive.

 

GentechPC has the 8171 ETA 04/12/2012 (Pre order ???) GenTech PC - Customize System

 

Msata is expensive and I like the idea of a cache so I don't have to manage everything

 

I had a 128gb + 500gb combo for a while and I didn't like having to decide what stuff to store on which drive.. I don't have that much stuff that I like to keep on my laptop storage (~180-200gb including OS), so I decided to just go with a 256gb ssd.

These caching drives seem like a pretty good idea imo. especially if you want to keep a lot of data and SSD's in those sizes are impractically expensive. One of these drives plus a 1TB drive and you'd be set.. Assuming the caching software is efficient enough..

 

From the reviews and benchmarks it gets about 70 percent of the ssd speeds. It seems legit I honestly would rather just have an external optical then hassle with files

 

I had my reseller stick my optical in an external caddy.. It felt way to flimsy for my liking. I was afraid I was going to break it lol. And I had some video playback issues with it, but I believe that ended up being an issue with the USB 3.0 Drivers..

BTW, there's a new version of the P1xxEM User Manual out. Download link is in the thread..

 

This looks like it's the same as what Xotic has, which is just mirroring what is offered on the Sager website. The ETA is the same as well.

 

I mean I'll purchase an external CD reader / burner, they are like fifty bucks and work just fine . I might just borrow my friends external CD drive to install windows

 

They aren't the old HM models. They are pre-orders for the new EM models. The specs are old because of the NDA, but you have been able to pre-order for awhile now and you get a $50 deferred shipping discount, plus your name is on the list. They will contact you to sort out what configuration you want after the NDA is lifted. This has been talked about quite a bit, but seemingly nobody knows about it.

Yes, you absolutely can. That's what I did.

Personally, I found I was using my external HDD constantly and never using my optical drive. So to me it was much more convenient to put an HDD in the optical drive spot and then I bought an external optical drive for like $30. It also allowed me to use an SSD for my boot drive. I think I've used the external optical drive about 4 times in the last 6 months. The external HDD I was using daily and when you're mobile with your laptop quite a bit, having to plug in an external drive all the time can be a bit annoying.

 

Gear332 exactly what I was thinking. Optical drives are becoming vestigial artifacts to the PC. I'll borrow my friends to install windows; thats all I'll ever need it for ; LITERALLY. I download all of my games online from direct downloads on steam or origin etc. I get drivers online, TV online, everything. CD's are literally useless to me.

 

NP8131/P151EM will come with GTX 670M as default GPU...

 

Yep! I used the external to install Windows 7 a couple times (I tend to fiddle), to burn a copy of the Windows 8 Consumer Preview, and install that. That's pretty much it over the last 6 months.

 

The cost of msata is less than that of your caching drive, but if you're into the ease that it provides then that's fine.
I guess I'm so used to having an ssd, i wouldn't do it any other way.

 

Where did you get this information from? I hope it's not true, because I rather have the 660M instead.

 

I would rather have the GTX 660M too.

I was informed by [a couple of resellers (masked)] that the NP8131 will come with GTX 670M stock. From what I know, the GTX670M is just a rebadged 570M, even maintaining the 40nm process.

Not sure if it is so worth it now. Hope that there will be lots of new offerings for other notebooks with GTX 660M.

edit: just found this: http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...ght-portable-laptop-school-5.html#post8415991
guess I'm not the only one privvy to this knowledge

edit edit: furthermore, http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/649949-p1xxem-user-manuals-posted-10.html#post8424695 shows that stock option for P151EM is GTX 670M, but upgradable too 660M... Nvidia naming sense sucks...