New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

Yes, you will be able, but the upgrade will cost you a few hundred USD/EURO.

 

I want to be able to upgrade to the 7990m that would probably be cheaper than the 680m, like how the 6990m is 2-3 hundred less than the 580m; I want to use a GTX 660 or 670m then go to 7990m later if it has graphics switching from discrete to integrated like optimus; does anyone know if it will?

 

Could not agree MORE! That beast has to be mine

 

Does anybody know if the new models will have a mSATA slot? Thanks.

 

I hope pre orders go up tomorrow; I have $1,300 that is about to burn a whole in my pocket if I don't purchase a dope laptop. I need one so badly -_-

 

Wouldn't be possible to swap motherboards between HM and EM models?
The only Difference so far seems the displayport, nothing that a plastic cutter can't solve.
Wouldn't be easy to upgrade to ivy bridge in this way without selling the whole laptop?
And I guess nobody sell the motherboards like it happens with other parts right?
Based on manuals the motherboard looks the same layout..

 

They will
Read about it here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/649949-p1xxem-user-manuals-posted.html

 

Thank you! These are looking like great notebooks!

 

mSata seems slower and like it has allot less cache storage then using a caching MLC SSD in the optical bay like the Crucial 50GB one.

Newegg.com - Crucial Adrenaline CT050M4SSC2BDA 50GB Solid State Cache for Windows 7-based PCs

500Mb/s read 95Mb/s write; thats more than double on the read speeds that the new 313 intel mSata cache drives [which are only 20GB or 24GB] has which is 220Mb read 115Mb Write.

That + it has double the storage; and for the same price... I think they are charging a premium for mSata drives because they know people don't have extra HD bays in their laptops -_-.

For $100 I'd take the Crucial Adrenaline any day over the mSata cache drives. I hear data plex software that the Crucial uses is just as good if not better than intels own SRT software for caching.

I'll be using the 50GB SLC SSD cache from Crucial in my optical bay and a 500GB 7200RPM drive as my main drive. It will only cost about $230-250 in total with both drives + the caddy bay; only slightly more than the 750GB momentus w/ 8 GB cach which is around $180 [200 with tax]. But I'll get a 6 times bigger cache; slightly less storage in total but I really only need around 500GB; probably less haha.

 

Can someone pls explain why the 660M is being preferred to the 670M; as far as im concerned, Nvidia's naming process is just confusing, and at a glance I would just assume the 670M is better, yet a lot of people on these forums are hoping to "upgrade" to the 660M or saying they are hoping the 660M is standar instead of the 670M.

 

Not sure if this is the correct information but it's been floating on this board. The 670m will be a rebadged 570m, while the 660m will actually be Kepler based.

So the 660m and 675m will be the kepler's hopefully released in the next week, with the 680m following sometime in June/July time frame.

anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

There is another difference, namely, the keyboard is longer in the EM (fourth numeric column).

 

the 675m is a rebadged 580m, the 670m is a rebadged 570m, the 660m and 680m will be the keplers, along with 640m and 650m i believe. People want the 660m because it will be the best kepler chip available until later this year [in 3-4 months probably] when the 680m comes out; which is supposed to be 20-30% better than the 580m was. The 675m is the exact same as the 580m, but it has optimus enabled on the Clevos unlike the 580. The 660m will run cooler and consume less power; it will leave some headroom for overclocking; we should easily be able to OC the 660m to 670m speeds; so it will be a much more versatile card. It might even be capable of near 675m speeds if it runs cool enough; I'm going to try and OC mine until I hit around 70C as my max temp; I saw in a chinese review of the 660m that under stress it only maxed in the 60's, 70's are perfectly safe and acceptable so I'd guess a 20% OC would be very possible.

 

Plus (according to leaks/rumors) GTX 660M will be 45W vs ~75W/100 for 670M/675M. If the cooling is identical, 660M with 40-65% lower power requirements indeed has a pretty good potential for OCing. At this point I don't see any real benefit of 670M unless it's priced really low.

 

Nice I didnt know that ! This thing should be a beast it can probably hit a 30 percent or so OC if this is is true information. That would put it in the ballpark of a gtx 675, maybe 5 percent or so off . This could be a very nice card for the clevo . Especially at the speculated price of less than the 560m by a good hundred bucks. This could give me extra cash to buy an SSD or SSD cache drive ooo.

 

Aw hell yeah. @#!@ just got real

 

Yes, but 64 mb? You sure you don't mean GB? (I can't follow the link because I'm on my 3ds, but I think I know the drive you're talking about.

EDIT: Oh whups, you saw that already.

Somehow I doubt that Nvidia will be handing 660m's out at $100 a piece. They can charge whatever they want, and it's probably going to be around 675m prices.

 

The NDA will be lifted tonight...=]

 

... and tousands of the NBR users will be franticly pushing resfresh buttons in their browsers starting 00:01. I hope this forum can handle hordes of hungry for the information people

 

hoping the 675m will be lower than the current 6990m pricing. If the math works out right it should be, I would also like to see what the last stocks of 6990m will go for once 675m is released.

 

Thats why tomorrow.. Easter Sunday we will be online handling chats and answering questions on the forums, for a few hours =)

 

As you will probably have read around, the 670M, as well as the 675M are simply cards from the previous generation that are simply renamed and rereleased. The 660M on the other hand is the new generation card.

While the 670M will certainly be more powerfull than the 660M, the new 28nm process for Kepler will also bring an improved power efficiency. Thus with the 660M, you will be able to game longer (more battery life), and the notebook will not get as hot.

In my opinion, right now, buying the 670 of 675 makes no sense, but that's because I would rather have a thinner laptop. In any case, if you want the absolute best, you should wait for the 680M, which should be Kepler.

 

I highlighted the parts I have questions about. I am still very new to high-end PC/laptop gaming so please excuse my ignorance.

1) The 675m is the same as the 580m, only with optimus and an almost 50% price tag. Wouldn't that make it the best choice for someone who needs a laptop now and cannot wait for the 680m?
2) By versatility, do you mean OC'ing when needed and running on low power when not playing games, thus organizing power consumption?

I am need to order a new laptop as soon as possible, and I was set on getting the 675m until I read the last page on this thread. I need some guidance/opinions on this please. Keeping in mind that I do not care about battery life, and my budget allows for the 675m. I also want the laptop to be as future-proof as possible, since I am not sure if I will be able to get a desktop PC anytime soon. What would be the smarter choice for me, 675m vs 660m? The 670m is practically pointless for me since the 675m is only around €60 more expensive (on the German websites that released the new specs)

 

If you can't wait for 680M or 7970M (whenever it will be released) then 675M should work for you just fine. Although, in this case it's hard to satisfy your desire to have laptop that is "as future-proof as possible". We'll know more tomorrow for sure(ish).

 

I know it's not tomorrow yet, but, since the Optimus requires diferent wiring, I was wondering if it would be possible to upgrade 660M (Nvidia) to 7970M or 7990M (AMD) in the future?

 

At this point we are assuming that you will be able to, as optimus wiring is not different from AMD's version (basically Muxless video switching) so it should be possible, now as I don't have a 660m or a 7970m in my hands right now I can't tell you that for sure, but Clevo making a whole new MB just for AMD cards, we would have heard of that by now =)

 

"as future-proof as possible" for this month, i guess Thanks for the input. 2 more hours for April 8th in Germany (from where I'll be buying). I hope the websites update then!

 

I am in the same boat as Stardust. I pre ordered on 3/8. Just don't want to screw myself for future upgrades with a poor initial selection.

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It will update at midnight central time USA

And to the resellers, can you tell us about how many PxxxEM laptops are in your initial stock?

 

Its 00:28 over here....

 

Sorry its 12:01AM Local time.. For us thats EDT so I wish I could help you out Mr. Ahead of EDT type person

 

I live in California so It will be 10pm ? I'm excited I'm totally going to order next week I have a pre order in for rj tech its only 20 minutes from my house. I've heard good things about them. I don't know if I want the 11.6 inch or the p 151em with a 660 probably the p151em

 

mysn.de updated their website with the P502 and the P702 (P150EM and P170EM) models. There aren't any Ivy Bridge options though!

 

Ib options will show up later today near midnight depending on where you are located

 

Yes just noticed, nice find Awesome, god damn IV please come...

EDIT! Just noticed that as the older HM versions were advertised to hold the "idle" 1,5 hours, these new EM versions are supposed to hold 4,9 hours "idle"! That's one huge improvement, wow.

Source: MySN, check http://www.mysn.de/shop_asp/?fwlink...8587&userid=D0911FA3B9154626BF6BE1DFB9761579& under "Stromversorgung" and see "ca. 1.5 Stunden" then check http://www.mysn.de/detail.asp?useri...nOrder=010;020;015;010&bestellnr=adnkp502top1 and see under "Stromversorgung" again and watch as it has been changed to "ca. 4.9 Stunden" Awesooooooome

 

Do you by chance know what they consider idle ? Is that with WiFi or brightness on or off etc? 5 hours is decent I hope for 4 or 5 with some internet use and ms word for notes

 

In Australia, ours are now available with Sandy Bridge CPU in P150EM. We also have retail stocks in already, I will take some pictures today to upload here for your reference.

They look very nice and that keyboard, damn! It is unbelievable.

 

hmmm onkyo speakers......are they good? never heard of them....

 

Onkyo makes some pretty nice stuff. Granted, the ones I've heard have been full powered home theater stuff, so its different than a laptop. Laptops always have weak sound; so really anything is an improvement. I hope the line out on these don't suck.

 

just checked out LBO site and it's a $399.00 for an upgrade from 670m to 675m? I know this is an Australian based site, so what would be the conversion to U.S. Dollars?

 

Buying 675m makes a lot of sense because it's super cheap. And sorry, putting 660m in this will not make the laptop thinner. If you want a thin gaming laptop, too bad... Wait. Gaming on battery? I don't mean to be rude, but you have owned a gaming laptop bar m11x before, right? Oh, and if you want the absolute best, wait for haswell and 780m, they'll cream ivy and 680m.

 

i don't think he's talking about making any of the EM models thinner. he's referring to the cooling issues that prevent a manufacturer from making a thinner laptop. he'd rather have a thinner laptop, so he's not gonna get one with a 670/5.

 

xe.com is a good place to do currency conversions. That said, you can't simply do the conversion and assume that's the price it'll be in the US because they're two completely different markets.

Haswell is a year away, though, so later this month it won't be the absolute best, because it won't be out yet.

 

dumb question: Is it true that there will be no mpre gpu upgrade for p150hm sandy bridge? Is this the same case for p150em sandy bridge?

 

His loss, then. Beefy laptops are the bomb




There's currently no reason you couldn't get a newer gpu in a p150hm/em.

By the way, has anyone made a p150em owner's lounge yet?

 

I wouldn't worry too much about that, the new cards should have no issues working (Pending testing of course)

 

its up on xotic?

 

good trick... got me.

 

sorry I thought it was up...turns out I was looking at the wrong models....

 

ok a noob question: the NDA that is being lifted is for intel/amd right? cause nvidia already released thier lineup?