New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

Stop it! You guys are posting faster than my 3ds can load the pages!

More waiting... Sigh...

Not on mythlogic.

It does.


So, I checked a few reseller sites, and what happened to RAID? I'm sure these were supposed to support it... Also, mythlogic what happened to your non-hybrid 750gb drives?

 

there's a review of the p150em on notebookcheck.com, but the english version is not yet available =(
Test Schenker XMG P502 PRO Gaming Notebook - Notebookcheck.com Tests

 

Thanks for all the info.

I was surprised not to see the 660m as an option as well, but really I wanted the 670m. I was originally confused about the force 16f2 or the np8130 so having the 570m essentially in the np9130 was perfect for me.

For my configuration its 250 more to get the gtx 675 because i would have to step up to the np9150. I think I'll be happy with the gtx 670. I'm mostely interested in diablo iii.

 

The non-hybrid ones are up there, might want to double check that =), and yes the P1xxEM does support RAID, just tell us how you want it RAID'ed and we can do it. We don't put the option on the P15xx as you have to yank the optical to make it work as it doesn't have a second native drive. But we're custom, just ask

 

Thanks. Any idea on how long it may take before it's available?

Also, are there any reviews for P170EM/P150EM/P151EM or at least good quality pictures/videos?

Already looking.

 

We are hearing anywhere from a few weeks to a few months... So short answer no on an ETA yet.

 

so ivybridge is out on the 29th? would that give a boost in performance and batterylife?

 

Yes yes it will, don't know how much yet but it will

 

and 660 ETA? i tried looking on the last pages, but i did not find the date

 

would a premium be charged for ivybridge or would it be the standard processor then?

 

As soon as there is a date, I'm sure it will be posted here.

 

Ok, good. I'm not going to go back and check because this is so slow, but that's a relief. Something I was wondering though... when adding a 2nd hdd, does that automatically reflect the price of the caddy?

 

On our site, no, its just the cost of the drive, the caddy is in the optical section. Some other sites combine them.

From our estimated final pricing, we believe that IVB will be a swap (maybe a few bucks increase maybe) so yea when IVB comes out we'll just swap out. At least for us.

 

It does on Xotic and Malibal, I think.

 

Ok, just read through the pages, just want to make sure I'm clear on this. Ivy Bridge has an April 29th release date. Ok, perfect, I wasn't going to buy a laptop just yet and 3 weeks won't kill me. The 660M release date is unknown at the moment. Do we know if the 660M will cost more or less than the 670M? I assume that the 670M will technically perform higher stock than the 660M. Next question which goes to the resellers. Is there a size difference between teh 120W and 180W power brick? If so, would I be able to get the 120W brick with the P150EM (if I pick options that are available on the P151EM as well)?

 

From what I have read, you cannot get the 120W brick with the P150EM, but you can get the 180W brick with a P151EM.

 

I don't know about size, but there's definitely a weight difference.

 

Explain me please different between matte chimei 72% color gamut and 3D 120Hz displays. Which one have better quality in non-3D and games? And what about fps on displays depend on frequency isn't it? With ususal display we can get 60 fps and 120 on 3D, its right?

 

I placed a preorder with Xotic; does the NP8151 == NP9150?

 

The 120Hz 3D has 72% color gamut, too.
It can run it in 60, 100, 110 & 120Hz mode independently from 3D.
The regular display has just a 60Hz mode.

 

Yes. 8151 was the unofficial designation. 9150 is the official name for it.

 

Thanks. Does it means that no different in quality only in frequency? And what about fps in games? Thinking now about sence of waiting 3D dispay on p170em model by the reason of increase fps in games

 

just checked Origin PC out, and they have the 660m available. Current pricing is $48 less than the 670m. Anyone else catch this or any other reseller with the 660m available?

 

Current mobile cards hardly break the 70-80fps barrier in a game maxed out.
Anyway yes a 120hz screen set at 120hz can display 120fps if the card is able to output them.

 

Hey any idea if OC of the 650m will perform as 660m, or maybe a bit more, seems like 650 is the same card, with lower clocks.
Cuz i really want to buy, but as 670 is renamed 570 with optimus, and 660 is not out till end of the month, maybe i can just get 650m and OC.

Just dropping the idea... maybe someone with more knowledge can help me out here

 

mythlogic
wasn't the IVB release date pushed from 29th to 23d of April? Also, what did you mean a "swap", like the current chipset supports IVB CPU's as well? Thanks

 

April 29th is the release date for Ivy Bridge. The just released Panther Point chipset will support both Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processors.

 

paladin44, i see, thanks)

 

So we can put in Ivy Bridge later down the road if we order Sandy Bridge now?

 

Yes you can, but why not just wait the extra 3 weeks?, Save yourself $300+

 

I'm wondering why upgrading from i7 2670qm to i7 2760qm is +160 or more when the price of the two is the same.

Can someone answer me that question?

Intel® Core? i7-2760QM Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz))

link i7 2670qm
Intel® Core? i7-2670QM Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.10 GHz)

 

i had a similar cpu (2630qm) and now i have the 2670qm, trust me, the difference is quite noticiable. Alot in some instances.

 

When I was buying my laptop, people yelled at me: "GET THE 2630QM and SAVE YOUR MONEY! ITS NOT WORTH IT! THE 2760QM IS ONLY 10% FASTER AND YOU WONT NOTICE IT!!"

And so I listened to my inner feelings that told me to get the 2760QM. And man...Im getting constant turbo boost of 3.33GHZ when playing SC2. Constant = all the time, even when I alt+tab from the game. It sits at its max dual core turbo. I've been getting to 3.48Ghz turbo when I use 1 core.

Dont ever go telling us, the notebook enthusiasts that there is no difference in games from 2.8ghz turbo boost to 3.4ghz turbo.

 

deviltech.de updated their website to ONLY include Ivy Bridge processors for the P170EM. They had had IB and SB options together for a while. Now all SB options are gone.

p.s this store has the worst reviews I have ever seen

 

Absolutely right!

When I was buying my laptop, I spend MONTHS reading reviews (from january 2011 'till october) and Deviltech quickly landed in my personal "Avoid at all costs" list.
Since my German is at a very very high level (got a diploma for that), I registered on the Deviltech's forums and I had read more than 100 posts of complaints from their customers.
Things were missing (components) in their machines, weird open gaps were present on the chassis (assembly worse than an indian can do), defective ram blocks....you name it.

The worst thing at Deviltech.....is the shipping and assembly times. One customer, I remember well, has waited over 60 days for his laptop.
Many other customers cancell their orders after 1 month of waiting and then wait 3-4 weeks more for their cash to be sent out back to them.
When you order from Deviltech, you get no confirmation on a shipping date. You have to keep phoning them and they will keep telling you "we are still waiting for the next barebone shipment to arrive". Waiting is a key component of their service.


............and dont get me started on NotebookGuru. Just want to say this: people, do your research well before ordering anything on the internet!! You might have to read trough 1000 pages of reviews and wait months, but this is the right way to do it! Save your nerves and problems and research everything!

Last thing I wanna add - after spending 9 full months of research and playing the "waiting game", I bought a laptop that is still top of the line and never had any problems with it for 6.5 months now. And I paid 30% less than most customers pay for this same machine. Research is key to victory!



I think this post will get deleted for rules infringement. But I hope somone might find it useful anyways, so long as it exists.

 

I research before buying too, but I think 9 months is a bit excessive. My time is worth more than 9 months of research for a 30% savings.

 

I know there is difference in performance but my question is why we have to pay more for i7 2760 when the price of the i7 2670 and i7 2760 is the same in intel products?

For me it means that the sellers are speculating with the actual prices. When a processor is included in the price of laptop or desctop that doesn't mean that its cost is 0. When upgrading from one processor to another one and you have additional fee that means the second processor cost the price of the first + the additional fee of the second one. Or that how is suppose to be.

 

I don't know if you noticed, but the links you provide say "Recommended Customer Price", and I'd bet that "Customer" it's referring to is the resellers, not us. It's not saying that's the price Intel sells the chips for and it doesn't even say that's the price the resellers get them for from whoever they buy them from (I doubt it's straight from Intel). The better question to me is why Intel would recommend the same price for two different chips, one of which is clearly better.

 

You can check the prices in many other places and you will see that are the same and not as recommended but as a price.

 

For those interested, an official review of the P150EM has been done by notebookcheck:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/655837-official-clevo-p150em-sager-np9150-owners-lounge-2.html#post8428990

 

What happened to the poor 660M? been looking all over the place for this baby...

 

Supposedly it should be available around the same time as Ivy Bridge.

 

DAMN IT SCREW THE 660M

I'm tired of waiting for the NDA. Getting a P150EM w/ a 675M nao

 

Lol, you can't wait 3 more weeks?

 

Yeah I think I`ll skip this notebook....

 

I was tortured between 150EM and GT60 Really like the P150EM look tho

 

damn ive been waiting for like... since september while i still have one of the tiest laptops on earth

 

It seems GT 660M is available for some builders. Any reason for why?

 

Hey, guys! I am very close to pulling the trigger on a Sager NP 9150, however I have a few final concerns.

I understand that the IB processors are still a few weeks away, but both my desktop *and* my laptop just decided to die, so I don't have time to wait. Am I correct in saying that I can upgrade to an IB processor on the 9150 in a few months? I understand this is not the most efficient of options, but as long as I have the ability to upgrade to an IB chip down the line, I'll rest easy.

I'm also concerned about the GPU. the 675m seems absolutely amazing, and I'm sure it will handle all of my gaming needs, but I'm a little confused about the comparisons being made to the 660m. I know the 660m is Kepler, but how does the performance compare to the 675m? In the future, would I be able to upgrade the GPU to a 680m?

Thanks for the help!

 

Yes you will be able to upgrade to an IB chip down the line.

Yes the 675m will handle all of your needs unless you want some triple monitor 3d Gaming rig at 4000p or something. If you game on a 24" 1080p or anything similar then it will max out every game except a very small number.

The 660m is just the new kepler tech and people want it because it generates less heat and it has a lot of potential for overclocking; it also sucks less power [not that important considering these all have optimus, and people don't game on battery; you have to game while plugged into a wall to use the full potential of your hardware]. The 660m will be cheaper than the 670m but it will have more OC capability.

You will be able to upgrade to the 680m in the future; it uses the same connections as the rest of the 6xxm series.