New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

Well, the CPU will probably be fine.. Idk what you're usage will be, but it should be ok in general.

In four years you'll probably be playing games on low at native res.. Depends on how the game market goes. There will be game console refreshes by them which means developers will probably push things farther..

 

I'm strongly considering getting a Sager NP9170 (P170EM), however I am going to wait for Ivy to release. I'm wondering what video card i should look for that is not just a fermi rebrand or whatever ati had.

 

Yeah, other than hardcore gaming today's games (at least I'll be able to run games in four years, that is, if I even have the time to play games in four years), I'll just be doing ordinary websurfing + schoolwork. That exciting jazz.

Either way, IB doesn't sound like much of an improvement CPU-wise and from what I've heard, it is quite pricey. I do need a new laptop ever since my Macbook is suffering from logic board failure every hour.

 

IB's merit is the power consumption / nm process change, so personally the best IB (I think) is the 3612QM - the 35W Quad.

 

Oh. In that case, I don't care about IB

Ah, the joys of sitting at a desk all day with your laptop plugged in.

 

Intel is not changing prices going from SB to IB, so there's no reason that they should cost anything but marginally more. At least one Sager/Clevo reseller here on the forums has come right out and stated that if someone charges you $100 more for an Ivy than its price-equivalent Sandy, that they're just trying to make a fast buck, and basically ripping you off.

Ivy won't just bring lower power, but also higher stock & Turbo clocks, by the way.

Ryan, the 3612QM is apparently supposed to be BGA1224, not PGA988, which means it likely won't be an option in all models, just the smaller form factor ones.

Kraszus, you're looking for a 650M/660M or wait until the 680M is released (no hard date set yet).

 

3612QM is BGA?

That's the most disappointing news I've heard all week...

Darn.. No merit for the high-end gamers as Ivy's CPU power hasn't really increased for SB, and new gen flagship dGPUs are far from being released..

 

Second that.. If you waited for IB they would be releasing something in 6 months anyways.. Chasing technology is pointless I found out, you'll be waiting forever.

 

I really would prefer to upgrade when a new Intel tock comes out (Sandy Bridge or Haswell next year) since I won't be so jealous of anyone who gets the incremental tick that comes afterward...but I'll happily get Ivy Bridge since I'm on a useless Core 2 Duo and Intel 4500MHD graphics.

 

I would wait maybe another month if i wasn't crunched for time and i have to use my GFs Mac (Which I don't like).

 

I myself decided not to wait any longer. Once the EM's came out I went ahead and got one. I'll still have the option since I'm IB compatible and I'll still be able to get the other cool pricy stuff in the future, but for now I'll be very happy.

 

That's what I'm going to do as well. It'll be nice to have something now with the option to upgrade in the future. Congrats

 

I'm also considering this; I might just get the P150EM with GTX 675m and 750GB Hybrid drive. It's expensive though! $1566 with tax and the 3% cash discount. With 8GB RAM and GTX 675m and 750GB; but man it is probably worth it. Next year I can sell the GTX 675m to someone for probably half price and then put that towards the GTX 680m that will be out. So next year I can upgrade to GTX 680m and a SSD because the SSD prices should drop by then.

Those upgrades will probably end up costing 500-600 dollars but whatever if I'm working allot next year then its worth it to me as my laptop is my only fun/work machine.

Not sure if I should get the P150EM with GTX 675m, 2670, 8 GB RAM, 750GB Hybrid Drive w/ 8 GB SSD cache for $1566

Or P151EM with 2670, GTX 670m, 128GB Crucial M4 SSD, 750GB 7200 RPM, and 8GB DDR3 1333mhz for $1466

The GTX 675m and backlit keys + rubberized laptop seem cool;
but the 128GB SSD + 750GB 7200RPM + $100 savings seem like it might be worth it to give up the GTX 675m and different laptop finish/keyboard...

so indecisive...

 

I would get the P150EM. You get backlit keyboard, rubberized texture and a bigger Power brick which can support future upgrades to the 680m. I think that option is worth it in my opinion.

I'm getting the P150EM with 670m for now and in the future I'll upgrade to the 680m and Ivy bridge. Plus I want that backlit keyboard!

 

My P170EM cost $2000 which came with i7-2670qm, matte display, 8g ram, 675M, 120g SSD, 500g HDD, matte screen.

 

If you want the 680m, why not get it with no graphics card for now?

With optimus, you should be able to use it without a dGPU, and you'd be able to save $$$ by doing so too.

 

Eh, then I might wait for IB to come out. I need all the extra goodiness I can get

 

Hi, I'm looking at a metabox p150em-sb

i7-2760QM 2.4GHz
16GB 1600MHz 4x4GB
GTX 675M 2GB
120GB SSD Intel 550/520MBs
Intel Advanced-N6230 WiFi
Diamond Thermal Compound

Comes to $2126.00 Australian Dollars, nearest competitor price is about $2700 for a similar setup..

I am not sure whether to wait for IB and GTX660m or not? Is it likely to increase the cost by much? As I live in Australia, temperature can be an issue and I heard this model runs hot with GTX675...

The only game I will likely be playing on it is Diablo 3, which i want to play on max settings, is this laptop overkill? If so does anyone have suggestions for a different model?

Cheers

 

It's all speculation but I think a GTX 660m Kepler will also max out D3, it's not a terribly demanding game.

For me the waiting game is for Kepler / GCN.

IB is a waste for enthusiastic gamers, Haswell is there to satisfy the needs of enthusiasts in a year or so.

 

I didn't know I could just the intel GPU. I thought I would need the 2 graphics cards for the laptop to work properly.

 

You should be able to, since the display is also wired through the IGP as well.

That's an option if you are dead set on getting a 680M, it would save you $$$.

But I'd say the reseller first has to agree to selling it without a GPU, there aren't many that are willing to take it out for you.

 

I've heard some people speculating on the P150EM running hot/loud fan noise, but I think its too early to have anything clear cut. If your worried about heat, you can always get around it with a laptop cooler imo.

 

From my experience with D3, i would take a 17inch with full res. 15 inch with full res with D3 is very small, u won't catch some details of the amazing animation. 660m will maximize current beta. But the final release might get an ultra mod like sc2, so i would go 675m just to not regret later.

 

I'm not dead set on the 680m yet. I just like having the ability to upgrade my computer to that card if really want/need it in the future. Definitely not before a year or so. For now I think a 670/675 will do as the only games I play are X-plane 10/Flight Sim X, FIFA, CoD and maybe the new Diablo when it comes out.

 

The good thing with waiting is that you can choose between Kepler and GCN.

Once you wait, Fermi rebadges don't actually make sense as the 660M is more power efficient and should OC easily to 670M levels. If you want the absolute best, you can also choose the 680M.

If you check the leaks of the GCN 7000M series, they are supposed to smoke the current Fermi and are projected to outperform Kepler by a significant margin. If you aren't totally set, I'd say wait around just a little bit more.

The average gamers will benefit the most from the next generation tech, and opening yourself to options will be the smart move.

 

I ordered the P150EM the minute they were released! I've been holding off on getting a gaming rig and I just couldn't wait any longer. I'll suffer for a while with a current gen card and save up for the next gen NVIDIA/AMD and get that in a year's time. I'll try to sell my current card to a friend and make back some money there.

 

When will laptops featuring Ivy and Keplar be available? Ivy release is April 29? What about Keplar/GCN? And are companies like xoticpc going to offer them right away?

Lots of questions lol..

 

ydaf I'm thinking the same as you; I might just get a P150EM so that I can upgrade to 680m later; but if the 680m is kepler maybe it won't draw so much power and maybe it will be possible to put the 680m in the P151em .... I wish the new AMD cards would come out this month... I like the price/performance on AMD's

 

That would defeat the purpose of the 151EM. The 151 is significantly cheaper than the 150 for the fact it'll have a 660m.

 

Yea one littttttle problem.. The laptop will shutdown with no GPU in it. Your right it SHOULD work, but I just yanked the video out of a P170EM and turns on, then it blinks the lights, then it beeps, then it turns off

Even if you put a video card that doesn't support optimus in it (NV wise) it still works fine then. Without a GPU the EC FREAKS out and shuts it down.

 

Wait what, how come that happens..? What gives lol

 

Because someone decided that not having a GPU in it was Bad(tm) and should not work properly.

 

That is not very intelligent. You should write to Clevo about this.

 

The Dell precisions do exactly the same my quadro card died and I currently have a paperweight, was hoping to be able to use the onboard.

 

Good luck with that...
Myth was informing Clevo about a problem in EC08 that suddenly let the fans boost on full during regular use. Clevo said there is no problem only to push EC09 many weeks later to fix the non existing issue...

 

Will the older ECs from the previous models work to negate the fan noise?

 

Most likely not, with the different chipset and the addition of Optimus.

 

If you want a quiet laptop that can play games, build a desktop with large slow moving fans. Don't expect a gaming laptop to achieve the same in a smaller package.

 

There is no need to negate the fan noise...these models are very quiet. See the post and discussion at http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...evo-p150em-sager-np9150-owners-lounge-10.html

 

That's a biggggie

 

Just ordered my Clevo with P170EM with 7970M

 

Somekind of pre-order with no specs revealed?

 

Price is good, so i ordered
I believe that it won't be worst than 6990 or GTX 675.

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What is the delivery time? Im ordering as soon as I can get 3820qm or 3920xm with 7970m

 

Later at 8 pm i will get a more precise ETA.
I'll post something when i get more info.

I'm sure that soon they will have for order the CPU you want, because they have them with the GTX 675.

 

That website seems extremely over priced.... Cool that they have IB and 79xx series though.

 

thats one hell of an overpriced website... and there's no customization D:

Did they provide an ETA on delivery for the IB + 7970M?

 

Yeah I really just want to know when IB and 7970 or 7950 come out; I'll probably try for the 7950 because it will have only roughly 10-15% performance decrease but it will probably cost a good 25-30% less because as we all know companies charge a premium for the top of the line. I'd be fine with the 2nd best if it has more bang for your buck and is nearly as good.

Seriously I'm getting so impatient its ridiculous. At least I'm starting to go out to jobs on my own and doing all the work with out my boss so I should be getting a little bit more money in the coming month Definitely saving a little for the 7950 + an IB with around 3.3 Ghz quad; I don't know the model numbers yet, but a 3620 is the one I think.

 

It doesn't seem overpriced to me. But then I don't know what the going rate is in Portugal.

 

Well i think the price I'm paying for isn't overpriced, at least in Europe. 1389€ for a P170EM with I7 3610QM and AMD 7970M, must pay for the Ram, HD and optical drive separately. But if you can find much better prices for this config in Europe please say so, this way people will have good solutions before buying.