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    New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by wild05kid05, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. Netherwind

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    You would need eDP, which the new Clevo's do not take advantage of, they are still LVDS.
     
  2. micahmatthew

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    oh. well we could connect to external 2160p
     
  3. awakeN

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    1080p is large enough for me :D
     
  4. Netherwind

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    A 3840x2160 display wouldn't have any more screen real estate than a 1920x1080 one, since the resolution is quadrupled, 4 pixels = 1 pixel. So you get the same great 1080p experience, with a much much sharper screen. And you can easily scale down to 1080p for video games.
     
  5. awakeN

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    Hm, thats true. But I'm not waiting for higher res tho xD it's been the least of my worries right now.
     
  6. micahmatthew

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    we could just buy a 24 inch 1440p and connect the laptop to it couldnt we ? 1080p is pretty nice anyways on a 15.6. a 13.3 inch 1080p laptop with 3610 and 660m + ssd would be aweome though
     
  7. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Yea you could hook up an external to get that res, the GTX 670M will support up to 2560x1600
     
  8. Netherwind

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    If there was a 24" 2560x1440 yes, you could do that.
     
  9. micahmatthew

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    Next year there will be a few I imagine. Intel is pushing for 1440p 15.6" laptop screens and many other higher res eDP screens so hopefully some of them come into fruition next year for a fair price!
     
  10. edhawk

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    So was there a final word on the noise levels from the P150/151? I've read most of this thread and it seems there was only one review that mentioned it being extremely loud. Looking to order one this week.
     
  11. micahmatthew

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    edhawk why not wait for the Ivy Bridge processors at least? It's only 7 days away. Also the new GTX 660m and Radeon 7970m should be coming out soon hopefully. I for one am waiting for Ivy bridge 3610qm, and 7970m. The bang for buck on them should be pretty legit.
     
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    Do you think the 7970m will be comparable to Nvidia cards for graphic designers? i have photshop, illustrator + other programs opened most of the time. Will the price difference be worth it or am i still better off with Nvidia? They do own the 3d market....

    cheers!
     
  13. edhawk

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    Yes I misspoke I am waiting for the Ivy Bridge release, meant to say I am trying to finalize my specs this week. Hopefully the news on the 660m will be available then as well. Thanks!
     
  14. micahmatthew

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    According to leaks/rumors the 7970m will outperform the GTX 675m; possibly by up to 20-30%. If so it will be a major player in the mobile graphics world.

    I hope to get the 7970m if it comes out in the next few weeks. But I'm growing pretty impatient.... We'll see what Acer and Lenovo have to offer with Ivy and GTX 6xx series. If they aren't that great I'll wait for P150EM with 7970m
     
  15. mythlogic

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    7970m probably sooner rather than later...

    *wanders away*
     
  16. Red Line

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    so p150em/p170em equipped with 7970M will feature power express with up to 4 hrs of battery life?
     
  17. micahmatthew

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    It should be able to pull 5 hours or so on low brightness no internet, maybe even 6.

    I'm glad that Mythlogic dropped this knowledge on us.

    If it comes in the next few weeks I'm so ordering the P150EM with 7970m and might throw a 240GB SSD in. The OCZ 240GB is $200 on Newegg right now. Might buy one and then add another later to the optical bay so I have 480GB total.

    Is it bad to run everything on your SSD? And not have an HDD?

    Or would I be fine? I will back up to an external HDD of course.
     
  18. Seus

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    Any signs that we'll see GTX 660M by the end of this month?
     
  19. mythlogic

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    *me looks into crystal ball*

    Signs point to decent chance. Not a GREAT chance, but decent.

    <Lawyer>Chance is a non-binding unit of measure that could or could not be correct</Lawyer> =)
     
  20. micahmatthew

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    What about the 7970m being out by the end of the month? higher chance then 660m?
     
  21. Aceshighhhh

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    I'd like to know this as well. I was under the impression that they won't be released until late Q3
     
  22. awakeN

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    I swear the 7970M better be released by the end of this month; can't stand using Dell for much longer.
     
  23. jeepnrocks

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    A few pages back
    I saw about the 680m. I thought that wasn't being released until the end of summer?
    Also can you preorder an ivy bridge laptop through sager? Won't there be different processor choices available? In very interested in the preorder to speed up build time
     
  24. mythlogic

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    Can't comment directly on the when.. Suffice it to say, sooner rather than later. Late Q3 might be something else from AMD...
     
  25. micahmatthew

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    I have no idea what sooner rather than later means :'(

    *crys in corner*
     
  26. awakeN

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    Means that it is not coming out in Q3, but before
     
  27. Aceshighhhh

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    Been waiting impatiently for IB for awhile. Now that it's closing in, these new video cards look inticing :(
    Would it be worth it to wait for the 7970m or just stick with gtx 675m+IB?
     
  28. awakeN

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    Worth the wait, if our chinese friends are correct on the boost in performance over the 6990M (around 25%, so that means around 20% over the 580M/675M)
     
  29. Adrianople

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    That seems to be pretty substantial. What kind of heat is expected to be pumped outta that GPU?
     
  30. micahmatthew

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    yeah heat output better be better than 675m. i don't want a rebranded fermi so i have to wait for 660m and 7970m but i want more performance so 7970hopefully. also rumor has it that ib will be expensive.
     
  31. urmystlkal

    urmystlkal Notebook Consultant

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    Where did you hear that IB will be expensive? A reseller on here said the price is the same and will just replace the current lineup

    Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
     
  32. BlackSabs

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    Don't forget the Kepler based 680m...she'll be a beast!
     
  33. jaybee83

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    awesome infos by mythlogic! :) those comments already make up a pretty clear picture for me:

    7970M "sooner rather than later" - will be out before 680M, my guess may/june with a 20-25% boost over 675M
    680M rumored to come out in summer, thus july/august? with a 30-35% boost over 675M
    7990M as the product which AMD "might bring as something different from 7970M in Q3" - pure speculation as to the perf. boost over 675M, but lets say like 40%?

    in any case, with my 485M slightly oced to 580M+/675M+ levels ill probably wait for the very last compatible gpu that would flawlessly run in my P150HM without the need of a BIOS upgrade and ill be set for a couple more years easy! :)
    in retrospect, it was actually the best decision ever to get the 485M right away when it came out in january 2011. think about it: its gonna be one and half years until a gpu comes out that can finally and truly beat this card! @7970M & 680M as opposed to 580M (slightly oced 485M) and 675M (rebadged 580M) :p

    this is definitely gonna be an exciting mobile hardware year! :)

    cheers
     
  34. Heihachi_1337

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    I too would like to know where you heard that rumor of IVB being more expensive.
     
  35. awakeN

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    probably just someone who didn't wait for IB just wanting to feel better about himself for not waiting :p
     
  36. slapshot30

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    Any chance of that being in the 151 or only the 150 due to heat?

    Sent from my HTC Vivid
     
  37. awakeN

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    don't know yet, so far it looks like it can be in either due to its low wattage (65--70W, but that's hardly believable for the 7970M) and the 28nm technology.
     
  38. Kevin

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    Same situation as last time, meaning it will work in either chassis, assuming you have the proper PSU.
     
  39. micahmatthew

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    it was on tomshardware i think. its still nit 100 percent
     
  40. WCFire

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    I really don't mean to be rude, but Ivy Bridge is more expensive because it hasn't launched yet. Various resellers here on the forums have already confirmed that the price difference between Sandy and Ivy, at least from them, will be negligible if anything.

    Actually, Intel is dropping the prices on Ivy compared to Sandy, albeit only marginally, at least for desktop CPUs.
     
  42. WCFire

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    Not rude at all. Just posting for people asking for the source. I'm more inclined to agree with you on this.
     
  43. micahmatthew

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    I originally heard they are going to be the same price or slightly lower than SB was at its launch. That article threw me off though! I hope the 3610 is around the same price as the 2670 i7 2nd gen. :/
     
  44. Stardusttea

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    That's what I'm hoping for too. It looks like it could be just slightly more expensive, looking at the configurators of the resellers who broke the NDA
    DevilTech - High Performance Systems-_Home#
    HawkForce
    3720QM is €120 more expensive than the 3610QM, and €170 more expensive than the 2670QM. €50 is not too much. This will probably translate to a $50 increase from the 2670QM to the 3610QM in the USA.

    Correct me if I'm wrong though, but isn't it unfair to compare the 2670 with the 3610? The 3610 benchmarks were released, and even according to notebookcheck, the 3610's performance should be comparable to the 2920xm. The released benchmarks prove it:

    i7-3610QM benchmarks: Cinebench 11.5 CPU score: 6.25

    i7-2920xm:
    Cinebench 11.5 CPU score(s): 5.7, 5.8, 6.01, 6.19, 6.2 (avg 6, highest 6.2)

    Since the 3610 will probably be cheaper than the 2760 (according to the german links), I'd say this is a very fair deal we're getting.
     
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  45. HTWingNut

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    One benchmark does not a compelling story make!
     
  46. Stardusttea

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    There's also the Fritz Chess benchmark. 3610 scored 11555, higher than a stock desktop i5 2500k and the mobile i7 2820. The rest of the benchmarks were comparing the iGPU to discrete GPUs. I know we won't be able to judge precisely until the release, but so far, the 3610 looks like it's better than most high-end mobile 2nd gen i7 CPUs while being cheaper than a 2760.
     
  47. jaybee83

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    ...which is just the same jump that SB made when it was introduced! i remember the 2630qm blasting the then high-end cpu 920xm to smithereens :D still kinda impressive tho, if u consider that were NOT having an arch change here...

    cheers
     
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    My P151EM1 (NP9130) will be here on Friday. :D
     
  49. micahmatthew

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    i really hope it is that powerful and cheapthat would rule hope the 7970 is same price as 675m. id be so happy if this all came out this month.
     
  50. Aeyix

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    Has there been anymore news on the GTX 660M? I remember seeing speculation that supposedly it won't be available in the P150EM?
     
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