New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

Let me see, there's

Win+D (as a poster explained above)
Win+X (laptop mobility control center)
Win+start typing to quickly find applications

And I mapped out several Win+key to a bunch of scripted commands using autohotkey

For linux, I mapped out Win+Space to bring up the Alt+F2 menu

I do not see the utility of moving the Winkey to the opposite side, thereby shifting the spacebar one key over.

 

Congrats, man! When did you put in your preorder and when did it get paid for? I actually paid at least 3 weeks in advance, but no shipping yet. Maybe it's because others put their initial preorders in first...

 

Can resellers say about the new Radeon HD 7970 with P170EM? Whether the option with this cart and when? In the listing of notebookcheck 7970 above nvidia 675m and more powerfull isnt it?

 

More powerful? Yes. When? Soon.

 

Whatever happened with the 7950M?

 

I believe I preordered the Tuesday before it was released and confirmed my payment on Monday or Tuesday.

 

7970M available first half of May.
Poison ivy - Page 2

 

Thanks! Ill wait for this card hope it will be much more powerful than 675M
and even the possible problems with drivers not hurt to buy it

 

Nice, I was hoping to get mine before June

 

Dang I hope first week of may; D3 is on may 15!!!

 

Any chance these clevo 15inch laptops might have a 1650x1080 or 1600X900 native resolution screen as an option?

Thanks.

 

They're 1080p only.

 

We can do the 1600x900 res if you want, its a screen change, but we can customize it.

 

Why would you want lower resolution lol

 

Assuming that that is a serious question, some people may need to have larger fonts, icons, etc. A lower resolution panel offers that while not sacrificing the sharpness of native resolution.

 

Those are adjustable by the OS. There's no way I'd downgrade the screen like that.

 

Font scaling is pretty good with Windows 7, I agree. I can understand wanting a lower res to play games at native res without sacrificing detail or performance you may have to do at 1080p. But I'd take 1080p over 900p any day.

 

Playing 1080p films is pointless on anything less than 1080p screens. I learned that back when I had my Acer with its 1366x768.

 

The 15 inch Inspiron 5000e had 1600x1200 back in September 2000. Not much advancement with the LCD resolutions since then.

 

Mine has a resolution of 1920x1200 , if anything, resolutions have been downgrading.

 

I imagine it has a lot to due with the general market. The largest percentage of consumers (generally) don't care about screen resolutions. My parents for example, already complain that 1366x768 is too small for them to read on a 15" screen. Enthusiasts may love higher resolution models, but if the market isn't there to retool a factory to produce them- it's not economically viable to sell them. That's not to say no one makes them now anyway- they just tend to be significantly more expensive.

Silicon products on the other hand have a natural advantage when it comes to production. Intel/Nvidia/etc all produce certain numbers of parts. To get lower tiered parts, they can (and do) turn off cores and features, or use parts that can't reach performance numbers of higher bins. A screen can't easily have pixels turned off, so it becomes a lot harder to streamline production with a lot of different models.

This is just speculation of course, but it's the only reasoning I can think of behind the bell curve in price and availability of high res screens compared to "mainstream" models.

 

Seriously. My Gateway FX i bought like 4 years ago had a 1920/1200 screen. The year after that they downgraded the screens to 1440/900 or whatever that is.

Disappointing. But i understand why. The people who would want 1920/1200 is a small minority of people.

On that note. I ordered my NP9170 Today

 

Does anyone know what the maximum mhz supported in the P170EM is on the RAM?

 

2133+... I'm sure Prema will be around at some point to correct me to the highest speed, I just don't have the table on me at the moment, but its higher than is currently on anyone's drawing board for SODIMMS

 

What does the ram mhz even make a difference on? Pretty much just overclocking ya?

 

You can see differences in benchmarks and overall performance too. It's just not usually very significant. The differences that were found in the older models before the refresh were:

1333Mhz->1600Mhz = 3-4% increase
1600Mhz->1866Mhz = 3-4% increase

For some people it's worth it, but for most people you can probably get better bang for your buck on an SSD or better GPU.

 

Cool. I was just asking because I knocked my ram down to 1333 on the 170 i just ordered and upped my video card to a 675. I'll be adding a crucial or samsung SSD when i get it .

 

The BIOS is ready for 2133-2400-2667Mhz...

 

And what modules would you suggest for attempting to achieve those speeds?

 

They don't sell that stuff, yet.
Currently I am only aware of Kingston and Corsair with 1866Mhz So-Dimms on the market. Kingston has shown us native 2133Mhz since Cebit 2011, but nothing on sale yet, because they would have to face too many RMA from not supporting mobos.

But even with 1600Mhz (Dell Samsung) we have passed 2300Mhz stable on Sandy Bridge.

You may watch this thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...extreme-boost-1600-2133-beyond-jedec-xmp.html

 

Interesting, thanks

 

hi guys,

check this out: preorder for 3610 with 660; ETA April 29

 

With Sandy Bridge they made OC'ing memory pretty pointless, with Ivy I'd expect the difference to slim even further, if you feel the need to eke out that last bit of performance there's probably other ways to do it.

 

A faster RAM makes a huge difference for the performance of the HD4000 iGPU, so I am happy the way the JEDEC speck evolves...
We already do everything we can to make these CPUs run constantly in highest Turbo without throttle. The locked multis (on non XM) and limited blck OC potential aren´t a real propblem.
Real problem is cooling!

 

I get my NP9130 today. Will followup with a solid review this weekend with tons of pics. Going to do a direct comparison against my desktop.

Desktop Specs:
Intel i7 2600k
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4
8GB Corsair DDR3 1600
eVGA GTX 470
Corsair Force 3 90GB SSD

Laptop Specs:
Intel i7 2670QM
HM77
8GB DDR3 1333
GTX 670M
Corsair Force 3 90GB SSD

 

You have a 90GB SSD and that's it ? There isn't much point in comparison because none of your laptops hardware is new. You can look up benchmarks and find comparisons online already. If you had ivy bridge and a Kepler card it would be nice to see a comparison .

Also I hope that Ivy bridge and 660m on 29 are accurate we need Kepler and GCN, I hope 7970m is out next week also , it will be awesome.

 

Im waiting for Ivy+GTX680M

 

I just want an ivy and 7970, I'd settle for 660m if it was in a 4.5 - 5 lb laptop that's 1-1.3inches thick. But if I Get a 7 lb 1.8 inch p 150em then I wouldn't settle for such a weak card I want more power. The y 580 looks OK for a smaller laptop but I'd prefer more power, 7 lbs isn't that much to lug around if you have a nice backpack

 

I'm anxiously waiting for my P170EM fully loaded to arrive from Mythlogic! can't wait can't wait. I've settled for the highest (non xm) specs of what's available now, when keppler and Ivy comes out I'll see what's changed and by how much before delving in.

 

That might take a long long time.....

Same 7970 sounds right about correct for me + Ivy

 

-moved to owner's lounge

 

Don't forget to post in the official owner's lounges about it too. I'm not sure your laptop would fit in the speculations thread so much anymore.

 

Thanks for letting me know slick. I was doing it against my current desktop.


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I mean you can just Google the bookmark results you don't have to run you're own since others already have.

 

he's excited about his new laptop man, let him do his comparisons.. No one likes being shot down when they're genuinely excited about something. I for one look forward to all the coming reviews from people. each one has a different take on things

 

Agreed, since when did more comparisons become a bad thing?

 

How does the 660m stack up against the 675m? Obviously it's a Kepler card and might not be able to hit benchmarks as high as the 675m, but given today's gaming requirements will it still be able to run most (if not all) games decently enough?

 

+1 The more comps the better.

 

There are no real solid numbers for the 660m yet, though a quick look over at notebookcheck says that it should be around the performance of a hd6950 and maybe 10-20% faster than a 650m. But real world performance? I don't think you'll be hurting for more fps on all the mainstream games. Unless you play Metro 2033 at max or something.

 

Should this thread be closed as owner's lounges are popping up ?