New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

what a let down...

 

Indeed the waiting game is too long. Is anyone willing to speculate on the release of AMD gfx cards for this model? THX

 

Is it known if the new models will have manual graphics switching for AMD cards like Alienware does?

 

Yes all have Optimus except the P270WM (which is Desktop chipset based) and the P170EM3 (3D screen version).

 

Those scores look good even for a normal SSD, i get worse performance on my agility 3 (for sequentials, albeit it's mostly filled up with OS on it)


So anyone know if there is going to be a model than supports ocing, and supports optimus, and has a 120hz display?

EDIT: I Just saw Prema's post. That's really lame the 17in model does not support optimus. Guess that's reason alone not to upgrade from my lovely np8130.

 

only the 17" 3D model won't support Optimus..

with the P170HM 3D, the power draw from the high end GPU, 120Hz screen, and overclocking the cpu was too much for the mobo, so they decided to block OC'ing.. I assume they decided the same with the EM series as well.

 

Use "enhanced" interrogation techniques!

 

Block overclocking? That's so lame. You can oc with the p170hm with a 120hz display now can't you already?\

edit sorry misread

 

After the OC tests I have done on my own P170HM3 (via BIOS mod), I am quite sure that OC was blocked because they didn't want to incl. a stronger power supply just for the OC guys...so it was simply cheaper to disable it for everyone.

 

The Sandy Bridge Clevo/Sager models were also locked, you cant OC them.

 

So yeah I was chillin and suddenly I found this!

Configuration ordinateur portable gaming sur mesure Clevo P150EM chez INVASION-LABS..!

The P150EM for "sale" @ approx. 1500€ w/ the 675M.

 

That's with a crappy CPU though . Configured without a HDD or Windows or "Lecture Optique", and with i7 3720QM, 8GB of RAM and 675m it comes out to 1806€.

 

Oh I know, do notice that I stated the price, which is my opinion is insane, I really hope they'll get cheaper before the release of the 680M, which is due a summer release

 

Yeah that's very expensive when you convert directly to US currency, but you can't just do that , standard of living etc comes into play. I'd say this would cost $2250 in the US, with 95% Matte, IC Diamond, and an HDD.

 

nah, when it comes to USD vs EUR prices u just convert as if theyre on par. thus a 2k $ laptop would cost 2k € in all likelihood

cheers

 

It`s almost like a 2k $ laptop cost like 2,3k €...

 

Here's what I was told by a source (reseller) a few moments ago regarding GPU's and pricing:

- Nvidia gpu's (GTX 660M/670M/G675M) will be the only ones available for a while until AMD decides to release.

- 660/670/675 are basically just overclocked 560/570/580

- Nvidia will be lowering their pricing a lot. 675 will be priced similar to 6990M and 670 will cost around half as much

 

That is weird as the new ones are supposed to be 28nm vs 40nm of the current ones. At least the 660M is supposed to be, which would make it much more then just an overclocked 560M
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-660M.71859.0.html
Guess we'll see once they are shipped

 

Does any one have any info on the socket type for the new graphics cards. Will they be 3.0b

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We've already seen the 660M. It's a 28nm chip with 384 shaders and 128-bit GDDR5.

They will be 3.0b compatible, yes.

 

The response I got from my source regarding your response was basically that while at least the 660 may be 28nm, the actual performance increase isn't going to be as impressive as some are thinking. Once legitimate reviews are done, it will be more clear.

- 650M will have 2 different on-board types. A 1GB GDDR5 version for the W150/70ER models, and a 2GB GDDR3 for the W110ER

- 660M will have 1 MXM version that is a 1GB GDDR5 variant for the the P1xxEM models, as well as 1 on-board 2GB GDDR5 variant for the W170ET model.

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This is what I'm being told, don't shoot the messenger lol. Which model does the W170ET model correspond to in the 2011 Clevo line up?

 

All of these leaks and nothing ever matches the previous leak, it's all so funny, I hope AMD beats the crap out of Nvidia this generation.

 

I know lol. It amuses me every year, whether it be for the next gen GPU or the next iPhone. Speculation/leaks are endless. It's always crazy to see who got it right though. Especially if they call it early on. But then you have to wonder if they just guessed..

Perhaps if nvidia is actually lowering their prices, AMD will be also. If the 675 is in the range of the 6990 (which I assume will be the range of the 7990), that probably puts the mythical 680M in under the current 580M range right? Hopefully it's no more than a $100 upgrade (assuming its even worth it over the 7990M)..

The real clincher would be if switchable graphics were only available with nvidia cards....

 

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The 675M is an identical copy of the 580M, so it is in the 6990M range.

 

Ok? That wasn't being disputed..

 

Weird... 670M and 675M is confirmed 40nm btw.
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http://www.hwinfo.com/news64.html
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Nvm

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Nah I was thinking wrong but edited it. Its the 650M thats going there
But all signs are saying that your reseller is wrong.

 

What'd they say that wasn't trustworthy?

I haven't been keeping up with the 6xx rumors, just started checking them out again today since this source sent me this info.

 

We have seen pictures of 670M/675M and compared them to 570M/580M and they are of identical size. So they can`t be 28nm like your reseller is saying.

GTX 660M may be a overclocked 560M but look at what I posted above. Atleast 2 solid evidence there that it is a Kepler.

 

That may have been my bad, and i mistyped. After re-reading the PM, the source agreed with what Hutsady posted about at least the 660M being 28nm.

I apologize for that. They told me not to quote them directly any more so I was trying to quickly paraphrase what they said while staying under the radar at work

 

It`s ok. We will maybe see the official launch of mobile Kepler tomorrow, so no more confusion and discussions of rumors

 

Wow, nice. Will be good to see concrete details..

After that, all we'll have to wait for is what's coming from the red team.

 

Why the hell did they put the function key to the right. I use it a thousand times a day. Is it possible to rearrange the keys and than customize the driver or something?

 

There are programs that can do that.

 

Not that you all don't know how to use the googles

Nvidia Unveils Ultra-Efficient Kepler GPU

 

From NV website:

Notebook PC - NVIDIA GeForce GPUs for Notebook PCs

GTX675M
GTX670M
GTX660M

Branded as new notebook cards.

 

Looks like notebookcheck listed some benchmark results as well:
675M NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - Notebookcheck.com Technik/FAQ
670M NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M - Notebookcheck.com Technik/FAQ

 

I'm just excited about the news on the Kepler GPUs. I want a GTX 660M so bad. Now I'm just waiting to find out about Ivy Bridge (release that is and technically when the 660M will be available).

Only thing bothering me is because of certain features, I'll be getting the P150EM model while last generation I would have purchased (had I cracked) the P151HM model. I'd rather have a smaller power brick. I'm not sure of the size difference between the 120W and 180W, I'd think if the P151HM can run a 560M with i7-2800 series on 120W, I'm sure the P150EM model would be fine with a 120W substituted instead for a 660M with i7-3600 series.

Oh, and RAM. If there was a certain Brand/Model I wanted instead of whatever XoticPC offered, could that be done and would it be cheaper, more expensive, or the same cost? Because I got my eye on a pair of 2x4GB G.Skill 1600MHz CL9 chips.

 

Buy something cheap to last you for the time being? Maybe a cheap second hand gaming machine...

I assume you don't have a machine currently...

 

You should be OK adding your own RAM in there. The previous models worked best with JEDEC type vs Intel XMP. That might be the case again but we wont know for sure until these new ones start shipping and testing can be done.

 

I don't even know what that means lol. I have no clue what JEDEC or XMP are.

 

They just refer to different types of RAM. JEDEC is RAM that runs at its rated speed without any modifications- you plug it in and it runs. XMP requires that you have a motherboard that supports it. XMP RAM may run at a lower base frequency, but will only reach the faster speeds through overclocking. (basically, it's not plug and play and on non XMP systems it will run slower).

 

Nothing special, just the desktop 680M Kepler comes of age: NVIDIA unveils GeForce GTX 680 desktop GPU, 600M series for laptops -- Engadget

 

Desktop gets 680M before laptop?

 

Always been like that.. sadly.

 

Say, when are you resellers going to throw up pre-orders for the next line of Clevos?

 

I heard that there were no sager np81x1 that they were truly just place holders for the p150em?

 

Oh come again? Can't quite understand what you mean.

They can't say just yet.. they are currently under the NDA until April when the P150EM should be able to be pre-ordered (I THINK THAT IS, nothing is certain )

 

Meh, I recall the NDA lift date like APril 8th or 12th. Crossing my fingers that it is lifted soon.