New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - WxxxER Series (W110ER, W150ER, W170ER)

woot this thread is back... sorta, so all we know now about the W110ER, which i really want

GDDR3 2gb gt 650m, will it come out with sandy bridge first and then released with an ivy bridge later this summer?

 

Based on the release schedule of the first week of April and shipping out in 3rd week of April, I'd say it is not enough for IB to hit.

SB + 6xxM for a few months,

then it will naturally transition to IB.

 

With the CPU appearing to be socketed in Prema's internal pics, it should be possible to get a IVB QM later if you find yourself wanting the extra boost.

 

u think they put that as part of the configuration later? i forget IVB can go in the same socket as SB?

 

The limit is that the SB motherboard chipset doesn't support IVB. However, the IVB motherboard chipset DOES support SB so if they ship with the ICV MB chip but with a SB installed we should be able to slip in a IVB when it becomes available.

At least thats the rumor that I'm choosing to believe as it gives me hope.

 

Hizzaah thanks for the input! I checked my laptop and the only extremely unnoticeable thin is on the glossy black material where the laptop closes there are micro scratches; they were definitely caused by the sharp angle that the closing glossy part of the screen on the bottom latches into. besides that everything is utterly perfect; i'm going to clean the keyboard with some alcohol and Q tips and use a micro fiber cloth on the screen and some dust off to get any minor dust out of the fans and CPU/GPU heatsinks.

If there is a reconditioning fee I wonder how much it would cost? $50? $100? If its more than $75 I will have to second guess my decision :/

Hopefully all goes well and I can have $1,300 to put towards a new Kepler/Optimus laptop hopefully with back lit keyboard. I don't care much for the CPU as SB is plenty for me and the Optimus/Kepler combo saves much more battery than the IB will in my opinion; At least for the purposes of going to class and taking notes.

 

If I'm someone interested in gaming capability/battery life/web browsing but not CPU intensive stuff like video-editing, is it even worth my time to wait for Ivy Bridge?

 

It depends on what games you play. If your games are mostly FPS or other 3D heavy games then frankly, No. If your games are strategy games like Crusader Kings 2 or Civ V on huge map size then it likely will be. For most games between the two extremes it might make a difference but not much of one.

The only reason IVB might be worth waiting for you is that you'll be able to get a quad core machine in a smaller laptop or you will be able to run it with out throttling due to heat or battery power output issues. If you don't KNOW for sure that a quad core has a measurable benefit for a program you are either using a lot of now or intend to be soon then don't bother waiting if you're shopping for a gamer class laptop(555M, 640M, 7690M, etc) as IVB will only be a small increase in CPU performance/efficiency and you're going to be using the dGPU for most of your gaming so the improvements from the HD3000 to the HD4000 won't be useful as anything you wouldn't use the dGPU for the DH3000 will be plenty.

 

im want to wait for the IVB for efficiency and the quad core capabilities, unheard of to have this much power in such a small laptop, and i thought the m11x was quite enough when it came out.

being a college student, the small form factor is what i am really after here, so im trying to get as much power as possible.

 

W110ER benches!

Setup specs:

11.6 1366X768 resolution machine
INTEL I7 3720QM Turbo 2.6G-3.6G
dual-channel 16GB of DDR3 1600
HM7 6 chipset
750G7200 16MB
NVIDIA GT650M 2GB GDDR3 128BIT
Wireless LAN Bluetooth

ALL CREDIT GOES TO 慕容蛛蛛!

Spoiler

 

wow! so a 45watt quad works in the 11"! how is that possible. I wonder how hot the chasis gets as the internal temps seem ok

 

lol 16gb ram, wow i thought the 128bit gddr3 was going to be a killer for me and make me wait and see how the m11x r4 does... but this thing.....wowow

still need to see how the battery life is, 6 hours is ok lol, idk, if alienware comes out with m11x r4 with gt 650m 192bit and with the i7 ulv which gets a respectable 2.0ghz, with 3.0ghz turbo, i might have to get that since i expect battery life to be a bit higher with that one.... just wait and see.... so excited cant wait to put my m14x on clist and trade for a smaller lighter laptop with stronger graphics 2012!!!!!

suck it mayans

 

either way im happy to see how things are turning out for the small form factor gaming sector =D

 

i think there are some 35w quad cores coming out too, but they are OEM

the Core i7-3615QM, Core i7-3612QM and Core i7-3610QM...... basically missing inbetween the i5 3520m and i7 3720qm..... they are like 2.0ghz base compared to 2.6 for the 3720qm so that might put them into the 35w range.....or maybe they would let us put in a i7 3667u 17w and squeeze out some more battery life

 

I wonder what temperatures this laptop has under load?

 

Seems like this thing will get HOT! Unless they have some serious cooling going on this tiny chassis. If the entire back end + a partion of left and right side of the chassis were vents/fans and lots of heatsink action is going on then maybe this thing won't go above 85 C haha.

 

Thats just the TDP though...

 

Can anyone request furmark + prime 95 tests while temperatures are being recorded?

With a 45W SB Quadcore and a Kepler Geforce, I expect this 11.6 inch notebook to get very hot under full load.. The CPU and GPU share the same heatsink with only 1 cooler..

 

Great performance although maybe I am greedy and wanted a bit more. I said on other threads to get the latest technology as 28nm and 22nm combo is great. Thin form factor. Why get 32nm and 40nm technology now. I have seen countless threads where people are going on about getting 40nm cards for slightly more performance when its based on 2010 technology. Its like buying a 65nm pentium D over a 45nm core 2 duo the difference in performance per watt.

 

hmm, Prema seems like the gt650m with the i3 2350m was sort of right then. The cpu score on that makes the benchmark score higher. Anyway I reckon the power adaptor used on that benchmark was to little hence why the cpu score of the cpu is low. Even a 3612qm scores 5500 vs the 5000 so looks like throttling issues.

I will never know why laptop manufacturers use laptops with power adaptors not capable of runnning them.

 

Remember the W110ER isn't designed to run a 45W QM processor, only up to a 35W QM or a dual-core proc.

 

we all waiting for april 5th right?

 

finally lol a sub 15 laptop that can play bf3 on high??

 

I"m hoping the 11.6 " screen will be user replaceable eventually? What if we could get a panel with the same dimensions but 900p or even 1080p? That would be one nice looking screen!

And the Acer Timeline M3 has the GT 640 and SB and it can run BF3 on 768p [720p?] in the 30 fps range just fine on High. Thats what reviews are saying at least. I don't think I would want that though. I want the new version of P151hm, the 151em or whatever with a 660 or 670m and IVB.

This thing has the 650m which should be at least a 15-20% boost in performance over the 640 so maybe even 40fps on high 720p. Not shabby for a 4 lb laptop!

This thing could be awesome for school + some light gaming though! But the 670m and IVB will run BF3 and other games on High/Ultra at 1080p and thats way sweeter haha.

 

then how did they manage to put in a 3720qm as seen in the screenshots posted earlier? that model is supposed to be 45W, if im not mistaken?

btw, pretty powerful cooling indeed, keeping that 45W quad and the 650m in the 70-80C range under 3DMark11 load! looks very promising!

cheers

 

Where did you see that? Im very curious how hot the w110er gets after 30 mins of bf3 xD

 

You can put a 3920xm in there if you wanted (55W) but good luck keeping it cool , its all the same basic chip hehe.

 

W150ER GT650 1GB DDR5 benches:

ALL CREDIT GOES TO 慕容蛛蛛!

Spoiler

 

Wow, as expected, strong perf in a mid-range GPU

 

No information regarding W170ER?

 

Where does it say 1gb DDR5??

EDIT: Oh sorry thought its the W110ER you are talking about, sorry

 

Wow, so GT 650m>=GTX 560m then

 

does w110er with the 650m ddr3 score higher than the w1150er 650m 1gb ddr5 in 3dmark11 ??? its 2331 vs 2453

 

idc thats it going for a clevo w110er, only thing im waiting on is price, and the 35w quad core cpus that havent showned up yet

 

check post #210 by Prema. max CPU temp shown there is 80C (3720QM) with a max GPU temp in the 70s.....unless im mistaken, since of course i cant read chinese

cheers

 

I suspect thats only for the benchmark programm ludashi? So probably doesnt give any real info about temperatures on full load, if its just the benchmark ludashi

 

W110ER listed in Australia: http://affordablelaptops.com.au/contents/en-us/d427_metabox-clevo-w110er-laptop-notebook.html

 

Mythlogic I just sadly had to cancel my order for my W150H because you're out of stock. Are you taking pre-orders for the W150ER? Or does even that stuff not begin until April 5th?

 

The pre-order doesn't officially begin until the NDA drops, however, you can email us if you would like.

Thanks!

 

Sorry for the long post, just found this topic again.

That rumor is correct.

It's worth it. Ivy gives significantly more battery performance under load.

3720QM

I don't think there is a 192bit 650m...

3610QM is 45W, and it's 2.3Ghz.

 

ok lol thx for correcting all my mistakes, if there isnt a 35w quad out there, wierd its either the 35w quad, or a 17w ulv for me, maximum performance vs battery life

 

W110ER with GT650M 2GB GDDR3 is showing Benchmark P9841

Confirm battery life capability 410min

 

so the 650m 2gb DDR3 is worse than the 650m 1gb DDR3?

Remember, its only the GPU score which is relevant.. but even the final score is higher

650m 2gb DDR3

Final: 9841
GPU Score: 7900

Spoiler

650m 1gb DDR3

Final Score:10297
GPU Score: 8267

Spoiler

 

The 1GB is DDR5...

 

Lol, the 1GB is DDR5... And the 3612QM is 35W, so no worries

 

So the DDR3 version will be available for 11" model, where GDDR5 for 15-17" Clevo laptops? Only 4-5% performance difference...

 

I also noticed that u get a 640m in an ultrabook and only a 650m DDR5 in a "gaming" laptop !?!
All these 15-17" gaming laptops should have a 660m DDR5 minimum.

 

A card the equivilent to 560M GTX isn't enough for a midrange gaming laptop? This line isn't meant to be the top of the line, that is what the PxxxEM series is for.

 

Yo. Guess what. This is meant to be a portable "business class" laptop, not a full-fledged "gaming" laptop. If you need a gaming machine, spend a little extra and get an EM. But please don't bash a machine because you think it's not what it isn't advertised to be. Also, the difference between a 640m and a 650m is a lot bigger than you think.

 

What's the estimated price range on this thing?