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    New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - WxxxER Series (W110ER, W150ER, W170ER)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by gzhang, Feb 20, 2012.

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    haha i hope the OP does update fhe first post. I was following this thread a while ago but then i trailed off and I dont have the time to go back a couple dozen pages to find out what i missed :p
     
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    The OP has two posts, so I don't believe he'll be back to edit. :p
     
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    how hard would it be for forum.notebookreview.com to implement a wiki under the first post of each thread (like slickdeals). That would make the 'owners lounge' and other notebook specific threads about 10,000x more useful.
     
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    aww just saw that.


    yeah I agree. they should implement something like that. is tehre like a suggestion box for NBR? :p
     
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    could the 28th come any slower =D, most likely because the 3612qm is soldered on.... we might have to stick with dual cores.... small steps it seems. Might just get a lenovo y480 if i have to to get a quad core.
     
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    Little disappointed in the weight of the W150 models. Previously it was listed at 5.7lbs, seems to have gone up nearly a half lb. The difference between it and the P150 is so minimal now that I feel like I might as well step up to that beast.
     
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    It has been confirmed that the W110ER will support the IVB 35W quad.
     
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    The W110ER is so inticing, GTX 560m like performance on a 4 lb laptop.with 6-7 hour battery life possible... Pretty amazing for school etc. I really want a more powerful computer though and 11.6" is sort of tiny. Clevo needs to make a 13.3" with GTX 660m and IVY bridge that weighs 5-5.5 lb's and is 1" thick maybe 1.2", that would be amazing; and very possible with the 660m and ivy.
    A 13.3" model at 5 lb's and 1-1.3" thick would be a huge seller for them. With GTX 660m, and a 3620m, and a 240GB SSD; this would fit into the needs of a huge number of customers.

    Wish they would make one like that but w.e. I'm going to probably get a P150EM with 7970 and 3620 when they come out. Not very cheap though :/ haha.
     
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    Yeah, seems lots of people are interested in the 13" models. It's a good middle ground machine, and with possible support for 1600x900 resolution. It would be a hot seller. While I like the W110ER, not sure if it'll work for me either. Guess I'll just have to stick with two notebooks until someone actually makes such a 13" beast.
     
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    See, I think this may be perfect for me. I love the size of my M11x, but the C2D in it is just way too slow nowadays. If I got this, it would be a huge bump in CPU and GPU speed, while keeping the form factor I like for mobility.

    However, I digress. If there was a 13" version, I'd just consolidate my two laptops into one.
     
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    Makes you wonder what was the thinking process behind going for 11.6 rather than the more logical step down which would be 14 or 13.3, considering it is a gaming machine.
     
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    That's what I want to do.
     
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    It doesnt even have to be an HD+ Resolution! I think 768p is suitable for 13,3 at maximum but everything beyond that should have atleast HD+..

    But I had the m14x (although i didn use any sort of DPI settings) and in my opinion the HD+ resolution was too small for my taste..

    I think they chose the 11.6 inch display because of costs, for sure the 11.6 panels are the cheapest out there!

    Its really stupid otherwise to create such a fat 11.6 when they could have used the extra space of the 13,3 to make it more ergonomical.. I mean come on, 1.8kg for a 11.6 inch netbook? Thats reallly really heavy for such a small display, and if you looks at the pictures the W110ER does look really fat!

    For comparison my lg xnote p330 weighs 1,7kg with a 13,3 inch 768p display and a 555m.. Lets hope LG continues this line with ivy bridge and kepler, at best the 650m ^^ Oh and its not fat at all, its really slim for such a powerful notebook
     
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    I can take a beefy laptop if the footprint is alright... The reason for the extra weight is all the extra copper in those cooling fins. My money is on really low temps for this machine.
     
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    Just a heads up to all the peopel lamenting about not having a 13-14" laptop with 650m. The hp dv4-5000 should have a gt650m ddr5. It's 1.32" thick and 4.78 pounds. After the regular hp coupons it will almost certainly also be cheaper than a comparable W150ER as well.

    The only thing is that it will only have a 768p screen with no upgrade available from hp. Presumably one would be able to upgrade it themselves for even cheaper than an upgrade would be if it was available?
     
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    Well my issue is that there are few if any quality 1366x768 screens. Most are total garbage to be honest. The upgraded screens usually are much higher quality but you pay for it, which I'm fine with.
     
  19. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    After the lack of a 13'' clevo, Im hoping for the T430u to pack a gt 640m or that the vaio SA comes in with a better gpu in it, a better screen is also a good thought, however the latter Im not confident with.
     
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    I would assume it was to directly compete with the M11x, but that's just speculation on my end.
     
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    the hp is nice an all, fits what alot of us are looking for however, we dont know about the availability in the US, its like last time they had an hp dv4 3XXX with an amd 6750, it was not available to the US, most likely because it would be competing with hp's own line the dv6, sure the laptops are slightly different but coming from the past, i dont think hp is going to release two laptop lines with the same gpu. most likely, the dv4 will have a gimpy gt 630m
     
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    Well there are already two laptop lines with the same gpu (dv6,dv7). Although it is possible it wont come out in usa.
     
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    yeah but the last dv4 line also had a configuration for a pretty decent dGPU (6750) it was not available for us. sorry if i am repearting myself lol, i just dont expect this from HP anytime soon.

    same reason why i am a bit skeptical of lenovo giving out a gt 650m or even better the gtx 660m in the y480 though that would be awesome, the highest configuration for the last y4xx line stopped at a gimpy gt 540m.
     
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    Heck, it will compete with the M14x unless Alienware comes out with a slam dunk home run Ivy Bridge M11x that beats the W110ER.
     
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    the lcd on the m14x might give it the edge for those people that use their laptop without an external monitor.... i know i have a m14x with the 900p screen which is by far the best 14inch lcd u can get, but im willing to sell it for the portability factor of the w110er

    and there hasnt been alot of news about the new alienware lineup..... most of all nothing about a m11x r4
     
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    My problem with the m14x was that although the base is very stiff the LCD protection was no better then any other laptops and worse then some when it comes to diffusing pressure placed upon the back of the LCD. I'm hoping the w110er Clevo will be better in that regard.
     
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    haha u should see my acer 4820tg, you can litterally see the ripples on the lcd when you apply pressure from the back, very fragile and brittle.

    this is first time im this interested in a clevo product, so i hope it turns out well. My cousin has bought clevo and sager products 3 times but has transitioned to AW and loves it there.
     
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    Im wondering how the y480 with the 660m is going to compete with that.

    If lenovo can do that Im hoping for a less weight and more power in the m14x, 3kg is what my lenovo 14'' from 2006 weighted.
     
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    just gonna have to w8 for reviews, i mean sure the lenovo looks good on paper but i dont know about the heating lol, i put alot more faith with clevo or alienware keeping their temperatures in check then lenovo and hp.
     
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    This looks good but two things hold me off:

    1) limited european retailers (if any!)?


    2) no backlit keyboard. ugh. you can add so many crazy features to the machine why not backlit keyboard. it should be standard in any computer for those that want to pay extra. for me its a deal breaker as i need to type a lot in darkness.
     
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    Its quite obvious why they didnt implement a backlit keyboard, it requires more space and would make the laptop even thicker then it already is! Thats why the new p150em and p170em are slightly thicker
     
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    I'm quite happy myself to not have a back light for just that reason. If the keyboard has proper indication of the keys I can touch type just fine in the dark. Even if it doesn't there is not much difficulty in applying some friction glue to a few keys to make them feel different from the others.
     
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    imo backlit keyboards are a luxury and certainly not a neccessity when it comes to typing, i know, i have both a x6 sidewinder keyboard and m14x, backlit, but i dont see myself using them just to type..... just type some more, get used to the keyboard,

    no way should a backlit keyboard be a deal breaker for anyone literate enough to use a computer
     
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    I agree, especially if you learned 10 finger typing, it shouldnt be any problem to type without looking at the keyboard...

    As a matter of fact I wouldnt ever have to look at the keyboard to type, because I know it all by heart
     
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    I hate it when people use the excuse that you shodl be able to type for not having a backlit keyboard. I can type 80-90 wpm no problem, and been typing for the better part of 30 years. But in games, or times when you need to make sure you jab a certain key, I find it to be very beneficial to have a backlit keyboard. And a backlit keyboard won't be that much thicker. The machine is already thick as it is, what's another few mm?
     
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    Haha its very thick already, I mean come on just look at it when the lid is closed its soo fat can you imagine its just a 11.6 inch netbook? Compare it to other netbooks with that screen size and you will see it is wayy too large
     
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    There is no good excuse for it not to have a backlit keyboard in this day and age, or at least have a option for it.
    Any official pics of this laptop? I've seen the ones with the textured lid but not sure wether it's a good or bad thing, it made it look sort of cheap looking.
     
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    It's very thick already, exactly, so what's a few more mm. They're not going for thinness but power. This 11.6" has a video card that likely will only go in 14", likely 15" or larger notebooks. You can't have everything. 35W quad + 50W GPU (most likely) in an 11.6" is impressive.
     
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    I was thinking this machine might also allow me to get rid of my HTPC, since this has a small footprint and good power characteristics.
     
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    there is an extreme lack of details on the w150er in this thread
     
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    Better pictures and the full specs, etc will be coming soon on this model. :)

    _
     
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    That would be great don't forget good pics of the W110ER :)
    What I really need to know is how loud/quiet the fans get under load and how good the cooling system is for this.
    Oh yeah the screen too, I know the res is crap but that can make up for it if its a halfway decent panel.
    This needs Ivy Bridge CPU's and what exactly is a good match for it faster dual core or slower quad.( Not that any of them are slow but you get what I mean better for gaming !)
    The W110ER is very intriguing and exactly what I'm looking for to pair with my bigger gaming beast :)
    Thanks
     
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    Yes for sure the W110ER / NP6110 is going to be a great 11" machine!

    What I can say is before the end of this month the FULL set of pictures and updated specs will be released.

    This model should ship as well... BEFORE the end of this month... :)

    _
     
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    dont excite us too much :s
     
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    Nice :D.

    But for the price (949 euros) is very good, at least for portuguese market...and they probably will have other models soon too, but if someone want to buy one right now i think that is already good enough. For that price, its almost impossible to find better.
     
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    question, why would you choose w150er over the hp dv6t with 650m?
     
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    the question is for me? :confused:
     
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    I'm debating that myself. The W150ER does seem to be able to house two HDDs (and, apparently, an mSATA SSD) plus an ODD, so I think that's probably one point in its favor.
     
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