New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

wont matter, it is not the first time GPU released in the middle of intel cycle.

 

In fact they tend to be out of sync.

 

Alright guys I'm ready to see some laptops hit vendor shops now I have endured and been patient but its wearing thin. I have a son getting ready for back to school, I'm also in need of an upgrade myself so I need to buy something soon. If these laptop companies want to make money they need to start releasing these darn things now before summer ends. Just went to my local best buy and let me tell ya their clearing house selling pc's like hotcakes right now.

I know everyone here is gona say aw just wait Michael its releasing soon, or be patient mike, or hey why don't you buy so and so laptop available now its haswell but its still good, but cmon pals I waited this long and I want exactly what I said I wanted in my first post but its sure as heck taking a while (pardon my H's). Ever since my kids came back from camp every day I have to share my ol faithful laptop. I really need something new and it has to have the trio of things mentioned so it can last a long time. The intel show is less than a week away so that is a bit of a comfort.

 

@MichaelKnight4Christ I feel your pain, but the availability is not in the hands of the laptop manufacturers or vendors :-(

 

If things are getting marked down right now (whether clearance or back to school type sales), and maybe with new product coming out soonish, at least you can hopefully find out what is coming up and maybe make a decision while there are sales going on. So I suppose that makes it a good time to be looking at least.

 

I absolutely know that and vendors here have been a big help I'm going after the bigwigs with their golden parachutes when I say that kinda stuff believe me.

 

I'm expecting early September preorders for Clevo P7XX series. mySN usually release new models after back to school promotion. They normally run their promotion until end of September but this year promotion end on Aug 17th.

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Yup, understood - two companies hold the reigns here, Intel and Nvidia.

Can't possibly comment if there's a relationship between these dates

 

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Yep, I'm expecting the same timeline. I spoke with a Mythlogic rep and he said if it were up to him, "HE" would probably wait until the first or second week of September to see what drops as opposed to buying a laptop right now. So, obviously he's saying that as far as he understands, they should be putting the Batman 2.0 up for sale during the first half of September. (FYI, he was replying to my questions to him about whether or not I should purchase a Batman now or if he could give me a little heads up on how long I would have to wait for the newer model to come out.)

 

I'm in a similar situation (waiting for new laptops to upgrade) so I hear ya on all this. I know you've told us not to, but just a little bit longer. Intel's earlier leaks pointed towards September for mobile chips, so it will probably be closer to that time even if you're looking at a laptop with a desktop CPU. Next month will hopefully be quite interesting.

 

Me either, need a laptop for school soon. School starts late september for me, hope skylake arrives on time.

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I'm actually pretty surprised that they're going to miss a large part of the back-to-school window for sales. (Intel that is, re-sellers can't control when they get it.) Odd to be so close and just miss, although I guess one can't perfectly control silicon. I suppose I should just be grateful that they didn't push it back to the Christmas rush instead!

 

Even if DM arrives end of August, if you plan to run demanding games on this laptop for the next few years, might as well wait another month for 990M (or whatever it will be called).

 

Yeah I'm in the same boat -- doesn't make much sense for me to jump on DM without a 990m.

Especially if you're interested in running VR on it.

 

This is a great point and I actually feel the best time to buy is when there is a new cpu change, new OS, and new gpu to name a few so I really like what you said. In my mind though the 970/980m is still capable of running games for the next few years and I just like knowing I have the option of upgrading to something stronger but wont need to have the strongest gpu right away. I am very excited that the next gpus are mxm plus there is also the future capability of the tb3.


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I have to admit to myself and make it clear to all the readers that you said what I strongly believe in when it comes to buying at "the right time" and the gpus are part of the trio that governs when that best time to buy is so_______at the end of the day patience always pays off and I want to make it clear I agree. As pressed for time as it is getting its best not to rush into anything, especially in my case after waiting all this time so another month or so won't kill me. Even if I don't have a need for the 990m or whatever its called I would feel better waiting for it so I can do a valid smart comparison and have it as an option even if initially I have no plans of owning one right away.

 

100% based on current rumours food for thought; the 680MX wasn't compatible with any laptops because of its 100W+ TDP, how would a possible 185W 990M cope?

 

Delusions and dreams.

Unless they solder the board, it can't be MXM, that won't be possible.

And wait for 990M instead of 980M? Go for it, as if it will be comparable in price. Another delusion, I would expect to be in the same cost range as a 980M SLI setup or more.

And of course, good bye to whatever advancements Clevo made in reducing side on the P770ZM, the cooling on that is barely acceptable for the 980M, nevermind a 990M. It's the same GM204, so I wouldn't expect improvements in cooling.

Overall, I'd rather have 2x 980M for future upgrade potential than be stuck with a $2000 motherboard.

Have fun with any costs to replace parts. $2000 motherboard, horray for that.

 

Because @Cloudfire says so

 

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I'm not offering my opinion, just a talking point...anyway Cloudfire only said that it would need to be 125W peak load or less, still speculation

EDIT - Ah, just read through some of another thread - you're being sarcastic? Lost my way here!

 

Cloudfire says a lot of stuff, he just repeats speculations from rumor sites, his info is hardly ever reliable. He posts crud just to get mad postings started.

Anyway, fairly certain the P770ZM is the last mobile desktop for me, I have other expenses and life things to worry about now than allow NVidia and Clevo to burn my wallet when I could get more performance for less on a desktop with lifetime warranty on parts.

 

Well some of us are still waiting for a notebook to upgrade and thats the whole point of this thread. I'm fairly sure mxm will continue and some type of gpu will be released later on for it. In the meantime though I'm still glad I waited and the new laptops will have tb3 so even if mxm were no longer made which I strongly doubt the option for docking will be made more than likely and that would be a fall back. I look forward to the new machines clevo will release.

 

Nah, 680MX wasnt compatible with laptops because

A) It was made exclusive for Apple
B) It wasnt on a MXM card

And we got something better a little later:
1. First came GTX 780M. It was clocked at 797MHz. GTX 680MX was clocked at 719MHz. Everything else was identical with them. TDP for GTX 780M was 105W btw.
2. Then we got GTX 880M. It was clocked at 990MHz and was identical with the two above.
TDP for 880M was 125W.

So yeah, 100W TDP isnt a full stop for mobile

You might want to go through Kepler and Maxwell speculation threads there buddy..
Rumor sites quote me, not the other way around

I believe in ghosts. If that helps

 

Sorry, you're missing the point. I'm well aware of the specifications of the different skus.
I've made it very clear that I can not release NDA information and so I have to choose my words carefully. That being said, if you have a honest source of information then you can choose to do with it what you wish, I assume you aren't under any NDAs and so can say what you wish

Considering that it isn't under NDA, the ONLY reason that the 680MX was Apple exclusive was because only the iMAC (which is basically a PC) could cope with the GPU. It wasn't created solely for Apple, that's just the way it worked out in the market.

I didn't say that 100W TDP is a full stop for mobile.

I have no interest in a fight here.

 

Nobody is fighting

I`m just saying they can do a lot of stuff with desktop chips that have higher TDP than notebooks would normally struggle to cool. Reduce voltage, reduce clocks, use better chips, disable this and that, mature the manufacturing process that reduce the voltage leakage etc etc

I would post 990M info if I had it. Absolutely
But sadly nothing here. We are just speculating. Thats all. Hoping and dreaming. I hope you have fun benching the 990M if you have it (no need to respond to that)

 

@Cloudfire You know, even if I said that we haven't benched the 990M yet there are people on here who would take that as code that we have already tested it

 

I`m confused. Did you now say it or not?
Or is that the NDA talking?

EDIT: that was the NDA

 

If we look at the actual numbers of what is already available we get a better idea of what might be possible:

Stock TGP: GTX780M 100W
Stock TGP: GTX880M 105W
Stock TGP: GTX980M 103W

TGP is the spec for MXM board designs and already includes the entire board incl. vRAM etc (unlike on-board BGA designs which are given in TDP > chip only, as the ODM designs their own boards around it)

Now take into consideration that nVIDIA undervolted their chips with each GPU rebrand/upgrade and you can almost calculate what more can be squeezed in there and what not...

 

Rebadged 980M with higher clocks confirmed

 

SO YOU'RE CONFIRMING THEY EXIST

(kidding, kidding)

 

Hard to calculate if we dont know what chip they will be using and what voltage drop they managed this time with Maxwell

TGP was almost equal with GTX 680M and 880M but power limit differed by much more if I remember right

 

I know they exist, I know they are currently being produced in Japan, and I know someone who is going to be benching a MXM 990m here soon....I will post more info as I receive it...

 

This thread has become a rumour mill. Churns out more crap than Donald Trump, and that's saying something.

 

Cool story bro

Ain't got nothing on NBR GPU speculation threads

 

this isn't a rumor its fact...

 

An example of a Fact: light travels at 299 792 458 metres per second. Replicable everywhere, hence it's fact.

An example of a Rumour: Nvidia might make a 990M that's twice as powerful as the 980M. No one can corroborate nor prove nor legitimise this statement, hence it is a rumour.

 

Except for the fact the one of the Sager vendors that also sells GPU's told me 100% fact that they have 990m's and will be running benchmarks soon........so w/e

 

Ok, let's put it this way: I'll believe it when I see it announced by Nvidia or when it's up on their webpage. For now, it's all just fluff and air.

 

any word on if clevo is working on intel's new xeon based laptop ?

 

please bench 990m for 3dmark firestrike and 3dm11 no old benches like 3dm 06 or 3dm vantage

 

I will forward on your request....just give them sometime should be up in about 2 weeks

 

It is being tested in japan right? any news about clevo coming up with sli laptops with desktop cpus in 2016?

 

There are quiet a few Shaders left to be 'enabled'...

 

with tb 3.0. you could run a external desktop gpu. why bother putting it in a laptop?

 

I wish there was more info on that too pal, all I do know is so far lenovo has the jump on them and I'm sure dell and apple are going to announce something soon. The idf(intel show) kicks off in a few days and at this point i'm hoping more mobile chips will be announced. If more are then maybe clevo and other companies will have some things to show by September but who really knows.

 

will most laptops adopt tb 3.0 ports in 2016? is intel making them compulsory?

 

Here's another fact for you: 990M will be GM204 with more shaders enabled than 980M

 

I mean we kind of knew that when the 980M launched.

 

i hope so, it would finally put an end to the struggle between portability and power. if clevo don't do it i'll have to shop elsewhere which would be a shame. intel aren't making them compulsory though, we'll have to wait and see.