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    New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MichaelKnight4Christ, May 12, 2015.

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    ipwn3r456 Notebook Evangelist

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    Eurocom is at Canada.

    Sent from my potato running on Android 5.0.1
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Just looked it up. So those are the three!
     
  3. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Eurocom is Ontario, Canada.

    Edit: Ninja'd.
     
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    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    And Mythlogic
     
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    dafootballer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was thinking of getting a P650SE should I wait? Im currently selling my W230ST on ebay and I start school in 3 weeks...
     
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    ipwn3r456 Notebook Evangelist

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    School starts in 3 weeks for me as well, and I just ordered the P650SG yesterday... just can't wait anymore. Unless you are willing to wait after your school starts, then that might be an option for you.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    If you can wait, pick up a DM in my opinion
     
  8. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Nothing wrong with ZM tbh.. I was in a similar dilema... R4 broke at a very wrong time.. Picked up the ZM.. Why? Skylake isn't much of an improvement, DDR4 is a problem cost wise and acquiring and do you actually need that much PCIe storage... You can pick up the ZM on cheap and it will still do the job 95-99% tine similar to DM...
     
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  9. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    And if you are already selling your W230ST, picking one up now would get to you quicker, so you won't have a down time while waiting for new models. Especially since we haven't heard of dates any new models might be available, you could be without a laptop for a bit.
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Yup those are the three.
    Eurocom in Canada as others have mentioned, however Canada is still North America :)
     
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    I should be alright. I was just bummed because my ebay listing was ending today. Luckily I still have a Surface Pro to use for school in case I need to ship anything off but I just dont want to be without a gaming laptop with MGSV coming out tomorrow! I think waiting it out will be the smart thing to do seeing as I hate how loud and hot my W230ST gets and Skylake brings power enhancements.
     
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    Peentje Notebook Guru

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    I already posted this in another thread, but I figured it should be part of this thread also.
    I got specifications for the P870DM today.
    It's a start...
     

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    Thanks!

    No mention of Thunderbolt 3? I thought the USB 3.1 was going to be combo with TB3.
     
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    4.8 Kg ... damn... it's heavy. My old 17 inch M570TU is 4 kg.
    I guess that's the price we pay for having a desktop CPU inside.

    The spec sheet is a thing of beauty.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That kind of weight would be quite low considering the last desktop CPU + dual cards was 6.5kg ;)
     
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    A GT80 is about the same weight


    Boring boring Chelsea
     
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    octiceps Nimrod

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    Yeah but that desktop CPU was a big-socketed higher TDP hexacore
     
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    Wow, why is this 870DM so much bigger than the Haswell models? 45mm (1.77 inches) thick and 4.8kg (10.58 lbs) for the barebones version is quite a lot!

    The 17" 770ZM was significantly smaller, 38.6mm (1.5 inches) thick and 3.9kg (8.6 lbs).

    The model I was planning to buy until the DM was announced, 15" 750ZM is a much more convenient 33mm (1.3 inches) thick and 3.4kg (7.5 lbs). Hope the 850DM or whatever the Skylake 15" model will be called is not much larger than this.

    EDIT: nvm, I see this is not the successor to P770ZM, but instead a different product line designed for SLI
     
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  19. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    It's a successor alright; of the P570WM, itself the successor of the x7200.

    Does have a different chassis, though; " painted", so plastic instead of aluminium-alloy this time. Hence the weight drop and slimming operation. It's been on a strict diet :D .

    Clevo x7200 and P570WM (cyan) vs. P870DM (orange):

    [​IMG]

    Those dimensions are very close to the P370*M, also a 'painted' chassis, so ...

    This is good news; was about to buy a P370SM3, but will get this one instead. Both could run the Dreamcolor 2, but the P870DM has it as a standard option, so no need to sell the old panel. The Z170 chipset also checks off the right boxes. Not sure about the 6700K, though ... hopefully the system can cool far more than 95W. Should think it will; that needs 4 fans, which would neatly explain its slightly larger footprint.
     
  20. darkarn

    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    Wait, does the P870DM really have two NICs? If so, that is a first!

    And one more day to Aftershock's announcements!
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    This isn't the successor of either of those. It succeeds the p370sm. The other two mentioned support extreme editions and the e5 series Xeon. This supports performance i7s and e3 Xeon. The reason for desktop is Clevo wanted socketed CPUs, not soldered.
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Hmm ... true enough. But then it's not a true successor to the mobile P370*M either, even if it may use its chassis. Either way; desktop cpu has its own merits:

    [​IMG]

    And no TPM with the Z170 either, another plus.

    Kind of funny how technologies that are designed to make you 'feel safe' have the opposite effect ...
     
  23. MichaelKnight4Christ

    MichaelKnight4Christ Notebook Evangelist

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    From what I read I think you can hold out a bit more and you still have access to pc's MGS5 as I knew will be a nice game but don't rush because games plus school aint a good mix anyway. Sorry for the lecture pal but in my house my kids know the rules and one is when school time hits playtime gets cut short to weekends only and that's how it was with me and my folks when atari and nintendo was the biggest thing lol. No need to rush patience pays off imo

    Posting it here was the right decision and from what I saw in that link, I think its safe to say Clevo will have the the rights to claim that they have the pound for pound and dollar for dollar the most powerful consumer laptop on the market. For what it is as a desktop replacement it sheds a lot of bulk and weight into a 17in laptop.

    Thats still an incredible feat imo, 10pnds is not bad since the 17in zm is about 8.5 or so and for a desktop cpu sli capable laptop its what I expected based on what they did with the zm. The weight and size are very fair for what this thing is capable of. The cooling pipes on this and other components have to be adequate I imagine and this will have larger pipes or more pipes I imagine as well as other components. Clevo really is going for the kill and I like that to have the power of a sli desktop in a tight notebook package is chump change compared to the space and weight of an actual desktop.
     
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  24. darkarn

    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, I guess "less is more" applies here eh...

    Seconding this; let's just say that I have been there, done that before and it's not pretty...
     
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    From the PDF:

    NVIDIA® new generation graphic card

    990M? :D
     
  26. Templesa

    Templesa Notebook Deity

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    Meh, rather bring Pascal out quicker than waste time on another 9x0m. I realize that probably won't speed up development, but one can dream.
     
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    Getting anything out is better than nothing. I doubt we'll see mobile Pascal until Q2 2016 at the earliest.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Nvidia isn't expected to have any Pascal units out until H2, making Q3 the earliest. This is going on tape outs.
     
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    Looks like we're not gonna see thunderbolt 3 on any of these laptops. I'm out.
     
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    Why would you say that? actually the dm's will have usbc/tb3 and were still waiting for more info for other laptops.
     
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    Seanwhat Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah I'm not really in to that though. The whole point of tb3 for me is to have the gpu outside of the laptop. It'd be pointless having the power inside and outside.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Seriously, how can this even still be a topic? :D
    Told you guys in May... ;)
     
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    Different strokes for different folks, but to me I think its always wise to have both in case you cant get to a egpu. I have a different opinion in that I view the egpu as a fallback plan in case I need more power, a different graphics card, or if mxm b is discontinued but in your case I take it you view the egpu as the plan itself. Anyway as I said we still haven't seen the entire model line up yet and the mobile skylakes haven't even been released yet so its still too early to count it all out yet.

    Oh... on a side note there are some other brands that may give you that type of set up. The Dell precision and the macbook comes to mind and the current models have tb2 so I suppose the next iteration of those will have tb3 but even that is a waiting game. Ive been researching a notebook upgrade for a long time and I gotta say that type of design especially by those brands may end up costing you more and the price may not be worth it. For the price of those you could get a full out gaming laptop or desktop and a separate tablet/ipad/thin light pc and still have change left over.
     
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    Clevo doesn't make any ultrabooks. I suppose P650SE is the closest, but still 1 inch thick.

    There should be a bunch of super thin laptops from other manufacturers with ULV processor and TB3 port within the next few months.
     
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    P650/670 series also have skylake-h update, there is listing on sisoftware website


    Boring boring Chelsea
     
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    Exactly, once the mobile chips are shipped we should be seeing those types of NB's later on.
     
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    np2650 is their notebook with integrated gpu only. If they take this and add TB3 it would be perfect, it has a full powered cpu in it on ulv.
     
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    Clevo makes quite a number of Ultrabooks. Look under 'Mobility' and 'Essential': http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_pro.asp?lang=en
     
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    Thats exactly what I'm looking for to purchase next. A notebook with a powerful CPU + TB3 to EGPU it.
     
  43. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Well, @darkarn, seems like Aftershock's announcement was simply a Skylake upgrade. They have officially stopped selling the W230SS, and how unfortunate it is. Everyone wants giant 15.6" screens, when we small laptoppers still exist.

    Might have to move to a 14" Razer Blade if Clevo doesn't innovate. And woe betide me if I do that, because Razer's stuff is overpriced.
     
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    Yep, just confirmed, most Aftershock's products are now available with Skylake and DDR4 RAM AND GSync screens with special launch prices! ( https://www.facebook.com/AfterShockPC/posts/676870055777462)
    ( http://imgur.com/gallery/w2hRI/new)
    Sidenote: The 965M is also not available as an option anymore too.

    And there is still no 13" laptop or laptop components yet, looks like these may come later. (I am ok with a 15.6" if it boils down to that due to cooling issues)

    Preview of the new S-15: http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-preview-aftershock-s-15-new-intel-skylake-processor

    :D
     
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    WAIT! ;)
     
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    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    That's reassuring... :D
     
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    Done deal! That's like the word of God or dog whichever you prefer. :)
     
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    It's going to take a little time to get everything sorted with such a big platform launch ;)
     
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    Gee... Ok, I think changing laptops during school term can cause more problems, so I guess I will wait too until December (I hope I have the money by then) :D

    And this is the first time in a long while that I made an excuse for not buying a tech product lol

    PS: More reports coming in! Actual reviews will take longer though since Aftershock would need more time to handle the high number of customers during this period of time.

    http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feat...+Skylake+lineup+unveiled!&utm_medium=referral
     
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    Prema is a God! When he posts, GPUs suddenly boost their performance, CPUs automatically overclock themselves and memories tighten their timings.
     
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