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    New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MichaelKnight4Christ, May 12, 2015.

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    Yeah P6xxSx uses same connector as P15x. Dell bricks don't work without modding, pre-GT72 MSI bricks do work but top out at 180W. GT72/GT80 230W/330W bricks use a new connector.
     
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    Excellent! You can't beat an HKJ cell or charger review! :vbthumbsup: Homepage:
    http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexBatteriesAndChargers UK.html
     
    Bullrun, Sep 11, 2015
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    Indeed, a phenomenal job he's doing :vbthumbsup: . And that tool is pure genius:

    [​IMG]

    That's the original Samsung that came with the Clevo pack vs. its replacement.

    Now only need to find a charger+ decharger in those reviews ... Using a simple flashlight atm to drain the 6 Panasonics, but it's slow going :vbbiggrin: (damn seller shipped them pre-charged :vboops: ). Which is rather kind, of course, but don't want to solder them that way. Have a 10W resistor, yet that's hardly sufficient for this insane (and unprotected) cell.

    Any suggestions?
     
    t456, Sep 11, 2015
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    I'm disappointed aside from the DM series Clevo doesnt seem to have any other mxm or even tb3 laptops for this year. I would have loved a p 150sma refresh even if the cpu would be soldered. I would have tollerated the 6820hk and a tb3 or mxm but sadly it wont happen this year. Right now the DM is the only clevo offering that has held my interest.

    The p65xsa/se/sg with a mxm or tb would have been ideal for many who didn't want the more pricier desktop cpu option. If it had some way of upgrading the gpu I would have favored those models and probably would have ended up with one of those but with only upgrades to ram and vram and a tunable cpu its not nearly the value the current haswel p65x's are. If your going to go for bga junk you might as well go for the cheaper current ones instead of waiting 2 months for a more expensive offering with only slight bumps in performance if it had a tb3 port I would understand but it will not so dont think its worth the wait when a similar specd model is already out.
     
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    I don't have any Li-Ion in my cell lineup but the Opus BT-C2000 Ni-MH AA-AAA version is very good. The Li-Ion, Opus BT-C3100 v2.1, gets a good review from HKJ. Maybe more so for it's analyzing than charging. Discharge function :vbthumbsup:
    http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review Charger Opus BT-C3100 V2.1 UK.html
    There is a newer v2.2 in the BT-C3400
    http://www.datalucis.com/fulldetails.php?prodid=29
    His eBay listing. He may have your plug.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opus-BT-C20...Volt-US-/331042777396?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

    That Comparator he has is great! If you're into AA-AAA rechargables, compare eneloop to Fujitsu. Same cell. ;)
     
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    I was thinking of ordering the XMG P724 (i7,SLI980,16GB,SSD) to replace my dead (VGAs are gone) X7200.

    Skimming through the posts I saw that there will be a true replacement to the X7200. Which model will that be and will it be released soonish?

    By true replacement I mean Desktop CPU, 4 RAM slots, 2-3 HDD bays, SLI capable and 17.3" screen.
     
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    well its a bit different nowadays since all clevo high end models will sport a desktop cpu. the x7200's successor is the p570wm, but it doesnt have a successor yet. the p37x series with mobile haswell and sli mxm gpus will have a successor soon with skylake desktop cpu and mxm sli gpus. important difference to the x7200/p570wm line being the skylake lga 1151 mainstream desktop cpus instead of the super high-end lga 2011 socket cpus.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    P870DM is going to be the SLI monster. Skylake i7-6700K, DDR4, 965M/970M/980M/990M etc. See the attached PDF on it.
     

    Attached Files:

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    Pardon me for my French, but ****, that's sweeet.

    Now, if only Clevo came out with a similar .pdf showing off a P630SE, with a GTX 965M and an aluminium chassis with hinges that can be opened with one hand... But it seemed like @Prema had all the dirt to dish when he told me to wait...
     
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    Those are some great looking specs. Any ideas as to when it will hit the "stores" and any estimated pricing?
     
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    I wouldn't expect it before November/December at this point but it's anyone's guess. They'll likely want to be able to launch it with the 990M as an option to avoid people buying them and returning them for an exchange and upgrade shortly after. That would make the most sense anyway.
     
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    One word was all Prema needed to say. ;) Plus he shouted it. :D
     
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    Indeed. I can just imagine the specs and feature list:

    - 13.3" screen (options from 1980x1080, 1440x2560 or 3200x1800, similar to current W230S series)
    - 2x UniDIMM RAM slots up to 32 GB
    - Intel i7-6820HQ (no more M... :( )
    - GTX 965M (or maybe Pascal 1065M) with 3GB VRAM
    - 2x M.2 slots
    - 1x SATA 6G slot
    - 1x PCIe slot for WiFi
    - Mass: < 2 kg
    - Fingerprint sensor
    - Moved speakers to the top with better Sound Blaster processing
    - MUXed GPUs with G-Sync

    I CANNOT WAIT... THE HYPE IS REAL.
     
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    Clevo + MUX? Interesting idea.
     
    Ethrem, Sep 12, 2015
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    @D2 Ultima has been preaching this for awhile...
     
    ajc9988, Sep 12, 2015
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    Yeah I'll believe it when I see it. Lol
     
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    +1

    On the P6-Skylakes the iGPU and dGPU have a MUX to the internal screen (That's how they support g-sync. 100% eDP. Optimus is gone). All external ports are connected directly to the dGPU.
     
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    Interesting, and wide color gamut screen options present! Stock P650xx FullHD IPS was far from good, btw, around 60% NTSC
     
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    Btw, I meant he was preaching the use, not the presence, of a mux in certain setups for certain reasons. Sorry for the ambiguity of my statement.
     
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    I have a tendency to not pay attention to systems I have no interest in so I had no idea Clevo went the MUX route finally. I've been focused on the P870DM. Total tunnel vision. Not that I'll be able to get one but yeah lol.
     
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    I hear ya! I'd love to get one (or a P570wm refresh if one comes next summer or fall)! But it doesn't, yet, seem in the cards...
     
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    Yeah I live off of 1345 a month so by the time I saved the 4-5 grand I would need to get one, it would be very much discontinued haha.
     
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    Aftershock has had those displays (as well as everything up to the 4K display) since the P6 series was released. As I said, Aftershock has closer connections to Clevo than resellers in the US/UK/Europe/Australia, and here's a pic of that crystal memento that Aftershock has from Clevo:
    [​IMG]

    Apparently Aftershock and other first-in-the-line resellers like Sager are let in the design and specifications process as well, which is what I was telling good old MK4C, until he got all haughty...
     
    Ionising_Radiation, Sep 12, 2015
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    Clevo never offered 150w PSUs with these 970/980m machines, only MSI did. Clevo came standard with a 180w.
     
    Ramzay, Sep 12, 2015
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    I hear ya. I live doing odd jobs to subsidize writing a book. So, although I was able to get a base level P770ZM, it would be years before I have the income for that (unless you want to read about income inequality, critical race theory and racial justice (including effects of media), environmental evidence, morality and a way to responsibly incorporate this into a governing body (laws, regs, treaties, etc.)).
     
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    I think clevo/sager do pretty well at offering most of the fun of those high end machines in the lower ones to be fair, your gaming experience will be damn close.
     
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    muxed clevos! omg! please implement that in the highend desktop socketed machines! so perfect if a dgpu decides to hit the fan :D and also nice for power consumption during those nightly download sessions :cool:

    they actually did! the 970M version was originally intended to be supplied with 150w psus, but most vendors decided to go the 180w route like with the 980M machines.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Not to be argumentative, but this is not true.
     
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    Or at least, that's what they say. I ought to have mentioned that earlier.
     
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    No, it's me who has best connections with clevo! Because I say so.
     
    opper, Sep 12, 2015
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    I see what you did there.
     
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    Aftershock is just in a situation where they aren't bound by NDAs. Different countries, different laws.
     
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    It will be interesting to see how the models will turn out at least, I think the true challenge will come with any further GPUs of course but you do get a lot of connectivity upgrades straight away that will help some people.
     
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    Yeah those connectivity options are pretty nice. I certainly wouldn't complain!
     
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    I really do hope the 6820hk is a decent chip, it will help bring parity back to the mobile chip machines.
     
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    Which is fine for stock clocks to be fair, if you tweak it then the 180W is required.
     
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    Looks like a mobile 6700K with reduced clockspeeds. I don't see a reason to remove the same features from the chip as they do the desktop K if it isn't meant to be an enthusiast replacement (soldered or not, if it has configurable TDP then it has a lot of potential for customers that don't want to carry around a desktop CPU machine or can't afford the desktop CPU machine).
     
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    You never can be sure with Intel.
     
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    What are those?
     
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    Sounds like the sort of thing Euros would do
     
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    Not sure why. A 180w PSU will only draw more power than a 150w if it is needed by the system. And if it is needed, the only way to supplement it is by drawing on the battery. Not a smart thing to do on a gaming laptop. And that energy they drew from the battery will have to be charged back anyway.
     
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    Usb 3.1/thunderbolt, pci express m.2s capable of raid 0 and expanded chipset bandwidth for the most part.
     
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    + Shorter battery life. In short; Hybrid bios aka AW and former Msi ;).
     
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    Meaker said it while I was sleeping. The possibilities with USB 3.1 and TB3 are a huge leap from what we have become accustomed to!
     
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    Waiting for these to be real too!
     
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    The Clevo importer decides which PSU they want and this is based on the options that Clevo make available. As Clevo will make the same options available to any of their customers, there aren't any region specific defaults as such.
     
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