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    New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MichaelKnight4Christ, May 12, 2015.

  1. Ethrem

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    Its really difficult to implement a list of who rebrands what barebone to what and keep it updated. @XMG if you would like me to do this, shoot me a PM with all your models and your associated chassis because I agree it would help the confusion. The problem is that in order to keep it updated, I would have to be made aware of any model changes.
     
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    Any news on the SLI models ? Seems like all the new models so far are non-SLI. Admittedly may be less of an issue when the 990M comes out since the performance and power draw make it both unlikely and impractical to SLI it under normal conditions.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

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    There were some rumors for an SLI model and specs floating around.
     
  4. jaybee83

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    MSI and gigabyte are known for so called "whitebooks" a.k.a. barebone chassis, that are used by other brands / vendors / system integrators to build their own machines under different names. in contradiction to those two, Clevo does not have any direct sales department under their actual / original chassis designations.

    skylake-based SLI P870DM should be here before christmas, but not sure when exactly...iirc prema mentioned something like november-ish
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I think Clevo's exact position is fairly unique but makes sense for them.
     
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  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    They actually started doing more direct marketing/publishing under the Clevo brand in Mainland China...
     
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  7. jaybee83

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    interesting!
     
  8. Ionising_Radiation

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    It would be great for a company like Clevo to gain some significant market share in the high-end notebook market. If you mention "gaming notebook", most people (of course, those who just buy and play, not tinker and mod like we do here at NBR) they immediately think "ASUS G series" or more likely, "Alienware". Clevo just needs to up its designs a little - make them sleeker, more professional and less clunky. The new P6XX series and P7XX series are a large step in the right direction.
     
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  9. XMG

    XMG Company Representative

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    I can do this no problem, thanks for the opportinuty :)
     
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  10. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Nah ... that will attract a different crowd; the ' there's-a-scratch->RMA' type ... hope it'll stay as-is; bulky and 90'-ish :D .
     
  11. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    That reminds me. I was visiting a friend and described my ZM to him. He said he never heard of Clevo, but if he got a high powered "gaming laptop," he'd get a Eurocom laptop and that they seemed like powerful machines... While laughing, I told him that they were a Clevo distributor! :) It's fun dropping bombs of knowledge on people!!!
     
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    Well, they have Apple for that. Ruddy scumbags, the lot of them. I want the machines to look lithe and stealthy, like the SR-71 Blackbird (best plane ever built - got to hand it to Lockheed-Martin and the USAF) or the B-2 (sexy as hell). If Clevo can innovate on the designs so that their laptops look good but at the same time are highly modular and customisable, then we hit an excellent point in mobile computing. I believe it's possible and that day is at most a couple years away.

    P.S. For the aviation enthusiasts here, attached are some photos of planes that I find most beautiful (including the liveries):
    High-adrenaline military jets:

    Lockheed-Martin SR-71 Blackbird:
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    Northrop-Grumman B-2 Spirit Stealth Bomber:
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    Lockheed-Martin-Boeing F-22A Raptor:
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    And now some passenger jetliners in my favourite liveries:

    Boeing 777-9X, in good old Boeing House livery:
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    Boeing 787-9, Air New Zealand All Blacks livery:
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    Boeing 747-8i, Lufthansa (only one I could find, but still a nice livery) - the Queen of the Skies is back:
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    Aerospatiale-BAC Concorde (the fast Queen, wish they never retired it), excellent plane it was:
    [​IMG]

    Yes, Singapore Airlines had a Concorde that it shared with British Airways.

    And now for some old but gold, radial-engine planes, from radial fighters to big old powerful bombers:

    Supermarine Spitfire:
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    Messerschmitt Bf-109:
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    Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress (with them bombs):
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    Boeing B-29 Superfortress:
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    Douglas DC-3:
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    Now, let's see what the automobile industry has: Bugatti Veyron? 407 km/h max speed? Hahaha, you haven't seen a GE90 spool-up with 570 kN of thrust:



    Have fun guys. The aerospace industry is our future. Here's to hypersonic scramjets and space tourism.

    /off-topic
     
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  13. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    No problem. I was never against the idea, I just need the information to be sent to me and I'll get it implemented.
     
  14. Ionising_Radiation

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    We need to TL;DR this thread.

    The P7XXDM and P6XXSX series are on the verge of being released and shipments have already arrived for certain resellers, like Aftershock. They come with Skylake CPUs, with options for G-Sync panels, as well as USB 3.1/TB3 ports on the DM. Possible SLI options as well. GPU options haven't changed - GTX 965M all the way to 980M.

    Prema hinted on a new 13/14" model with unknown specs, a similar design to the current P65/67 series with perhaps a 965M to succeed the W230SX series. This is of great interest to me and several others, hopefully. Perhaps Clevo may announce something in October/November. I can't wait for it.

    Anything to add, guys?
     
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    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    deepfreeze12 Notebook Guru

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    970m and 980m will be available in 6 GB and 8 GB versions respectively.

    according to an xmg rep in another forum the 14" model will be (significantly) higher than 2cm tho.
     
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    Have you got a link/source?
     
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    So whats the chance vendors will be able to offer pre-orders on the new clevo/sagers's? I mean Aftershock is selling the S-15 (NP8652) with skylake and the 8gb 980m, which is what I want to get. So we know at least that model will be released in the next few weeks. I guess I am just impatient.
     
  21. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Even if they do offer pre-orders, it really won't change the dates they are available to ship though. I think we are all wanting the wait to be over though.
     
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    snebi Newbie

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    most certainly :)
    here: http://www.notebookchat.com/index.php/topic,49378.msg257960.html#msg257960

    it's in german tho. what he basically said tho is that the new 14" model is gonna be significantly thicker than their C405 model which is based on a Gigabyte chassis which is 2cm high.

    anyone else find it odd tho that the release is on the 27th which is a sunday?!
     
  23. opper

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    yeah I couldn't stand the wait anymore and ordered already. as a surprise I got a broadwell upgrade for free, which isn't too bad.
     
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    Broadwell is sticking around for a bit due partly to the iris pro parts which are not being replaced just yet.
     
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    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm. With all these info about new Clevos so far, I am still kinda stuck though. I wonder if I should stick with my NP8170, but change the GPU to something else. Not helping that I am still not sure what my usage patterns will be like next year when I graduate and stuff...
     
  26. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    in that case keep your machine and get a new one once u graduate, know your usage patterns and have money to spent @salary ;)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    opper Notebook Enthusiast

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    If you start working after graduation you might sell all your computers because after work you'll have no energy or desire to use them ;-)
     
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    Depends on the specialisation and person. I for example just like to tinker sometimes. Playing around with the settings of CPU/GPU, or the hardware itself. A 5775C is still on my list for example, if i can get my hands on a cheaper one, because i would have no real benefit of it.
    Most games i play don't really need the GTX970M. In fact the games that i bought especially to see high quality graphics are boring after a short time (Black Flag, Shadow of Mordor).

    Gothic 2 with L'hiver mod, or Anno 1701 would work very good with a 720M, too. ;)
     
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    Same reason I got a 970M, just for the off chance that I might want to play Battlefield 4 on ultra for a bit :)

    Back on topic now...
     
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    I don't know about that; no matter how dead tired I was after work, an hour or so of gaming before bed was wonderful.

    And I was working monday through saturday 7am to 4pm with 2 hour commutes at the time too.
     
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    Even I manage to get the odd session in and my games do like the horsepower too ;)
     
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    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks guys, why I wonder about this is cos' I realised that all these years I have been lugging around a 4kg laptop either to school or overseas (needed my laptop to process the photos I took due to school) and I thought I should grab something a little lighter. Sure, using Teamviewer to remotely control my laptop that now sits in my home is great (luckily my school has many computers for me to use, and I have an iPad Air too), but its limitations mean that I should try to get a "proper" laptop...
     
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    The 14 inch series could be up your street by the sounds of things.
     
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    That is what I thought, but with graduation next year though, my usage pattern may change. Already, I noticed how working life can mean that I will use my own computer only at night, which means a desktop may suit me better price-performance wise. Then again... Having a good portable solution anywhere I go is not something I want to pass up easily. Of course, I can go with a "weak ultraportable with a strong DIY PC, then use that ultraportable to control the PC" but if I can't get good Internet, this setup won't work out well.

    tl;dr: Looks like I have answered my own question... Or am I missing something out in my calculations? :X
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    So, when I first started law school, I didn't have a car. I biked to school (5 miles each way) every day for a couple months with my books and laptop on my back. If I can do that, you can make peace with an 8.8lb laptop... Just make sure you have a comfortable bag! :)
     
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    darkarn Notebook Evangelist

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    I lugged my laptop for years, and I started developing back issues. And the battery lasting for less than an hour did not help :(
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I'm sore to hear about the back issues!!! That does make a difference! Were you using a book bag (distributes the weight evenly) or a messenger bag? Either way, if it hurts, shouldn't do it (need to take care of your body!).
     
  39. Ionising_Radiation

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    I think we all await the day when our computers can be as thin as a gold MacBook but as powerful as a P870DM.

    Photonics instead of electronics. Quantum computing. DNA data archival.

    Wahoo.
     
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    I would never want a thin laptop... Something is always sacrificed. The more compact and simultaneously complex that microprocessors get, the more heat is going to be a bigger problem. I'd rather carry around a large machine that doesn't put the components under constant threat of failure due to high temperatures than get a thin and light machine... That's what I have a Nexus 7 and an iPad Air for.
     
  41. Ionising_Radiation

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    Ah, you misunderstood me. Take your iPad, for example - the processing power of your iPad Air exceeds that of the 2008 MacBook Air, and is easily half the mass and half as voluminous as that. Nothing was lost, was there? Hell, the screen in your iPad Air has a greater pixel density, the chips run cooler, and has a longer battery life than that Air. It's a good deal, I feel.

    I mean to say that in the future, when we have photonics, i.e. processors use photons of light instead of electrons to compute (has already been demonstrated), there's no semiconduction nor resistance to speak about, and hence next to zero heat dissipation. Then there's no cooling needed to be done. Therefore thermal hardware becomes obsolete. Hence our laptops certainly can become as thin as that.

    Even better for quantum computing, where it's the spin states of particles that determine bits. No movement of anything anywhere, and no heat goes out.

    The technology has already been demonstrated - we are perhaps a decade to 15 years away from implementation in consumer devices.
     
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    No worries, more or less recovered but doctor have advised me to keep things a little lighter lol. I am using a book bag, or to be exact, a DSLR backpack that can hold a DSLR along with a laptop. Moment I stopped carrying my laptop and power brick around (but still carry around my DSLR, a Canon 70D as of now, last time was a Canon 1100D which was really light), my back pains were a lot less. From there, I figured out that my limits are one DSLR, one iPad and one lighter laptop and its power brick...

    Not to mention, my laptop is so thick that it is hard to squeeze it into my bag too, which is something I was reminded of during my recent school trip lol
     
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    Meh, there's something satisfying about having a behemoth of a machine lol
     
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    bricks over paper sheets, baby! :D

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    I had no problem lugging around my M18x and AW18. Only thing was they had a big footprint, barely fit the already tiny desks at school. :rolleyes:
     
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    lol, great mental image right there haha

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    I imagine this guy feels the same way...

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm a bit undecided on a bigger DM style machine or the Lenovo p50 both will have those tb 3 ports but the lenovo will be a couple of pounds lighter with more battery life vs the Clevo p750DM that will out perform pretty much any other laptop on the market. Decisions decisions :confused:
     
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    its important to know if mobility/battery life with potentially good stationary performance (=egpu) is crucial to your needs, or rather out of the box top tier performance that u can take with you wherever u go, but with less battery life ;)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Have you got the benchmarks for that?

    I see a coretex A15 quad core getting 487 in linpack multi threaded while a core 2 at 2.4ghz gets 2600.

    At 1.6ghz I would expect around 1700 core the core 2 and your saying the CPU in the ipad air is around 4 times faster than 4 A15 cores?
     
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