New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

Not when I initially mentioned it, but now I do:

MacBook Air Geekbench

iPad Air Geekbench

Yes, I'd have to say an ARMv8-A dual-core CPU is about twice as fast as an Intel Merom x86 dual-core low-power CPU.

 

That benchmark has the Ipad air 2 chip matching some modern dual core i7s.

 

Granted, GeekBench isn't the most scientific CPU benchmark around, but it's fairly accurate. No matter the situation, I'm sure today's ARM chips in general are about twice as fast as low-power dual-core x86 chips from about 7-8 years ago.

 

I don't think they are, they are highly optimised, but for a more general requirement for a fully featured OS they would not handle it as well.

 

But I still need to carry those Japanese language textbooks and workbooks lol!

This is another reason why I needed a new one :S

This is why I am hoping to have a 13/14/15 inch laptop with a TB3 port at least, imagine the eGPU potential with that! Who needs a certain Graphics Amplifier or Gaming Dock?

 

Guys, my local reseller CLEVO in Poland - HYPERBOOK ( www.hyperbook.pl) released official photos of P870DM:
HYPERBOOK GTR87-G: (CLEVO P870DM-G) check this out:


HYPERBOOK GTR87-G

Hyperbook released also prices for GTX 980 (aka 990M).

You can also see full specification of this model at www.hyperbook.pl

 

Damn, that's one sexy beast! Can't wait to see pictures of the cooling and rest of the inside!

edit: Woah, they even offer possibly the new (?) top end card from Nvidia:


GPU
2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M 6.0GB GDDR5 SLI
2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 8.0GB GDDR5 SLI
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 8GB GDDR5 [DESKTOP EDITION]

 

Hi Everyone,

do you guys think there will be an successor of the W740SU(14") with Iris pro - or is it not likely ?

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CLEVO P870DM-G looks awesom!
Any ideas there abot 4k and 980 desktop in Clevo 771DM?

 

She's a beauty isn't she?!

Why can't we have the best of both worlds:

Its either two GTX980M OR one GTX 980...having 4K OR g-sync...

The P7xxDM(-G) BIOS already supports the new card, but it'll depend on Clevo also offering a regular MXM sized variant to the end-user...

 

And here's a little video of P870DM as well) Wow!

Front -
Back -

 

https://www.vessel.com/videos/BWdVU8Zsx
Some shots in there too.

Edit: Video is up on youtube now:

 

what are p870dm barebones prices in western Europe and US??

 

So it seems you either choose between SLi 980m or single 980. But seeing as a 980 fits inside an Aorus... Oh well, more choice I guess.

Edit: Now let's see the 980 in the Razer Blade.

 

What is the notebook at the end of Linus's video? Some sort of P771DM-G? Doesn't seem like P870DM on other shots

 

In one of those videos, it shows the 980 doesn't stay within the same dimensions a regular mxm does (like Asus cards). I think this is what prevents two cards in a single machine. That is before talking energy consumption and cooling...

 

Most probably a P775DM. The P6xxSx line also has P6x5Sx variants.

There´s a new Msi laptop that will be able to sport two 980´s.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-announces-GeForce-GTX-980-for-notebooks.150756.0.html

"Despite the inevitable high price tag, Nvidia has mentioned a number of OEM partners and designs, including the Gigabyte/Aorus (X7 DT), the Asus (GX700VO), the MSI (GT72, GT80) and the Clevo (P870DM). All models will support G-Sync and no Optimus except for the MSI GT80. In return, this massive MSI model will be the only notebook capable of supporting GTX 980 in SLI. The first notebooks with the GTX 980 GPU will come by the end of this month."

 

I expect the 980 is using up both fans meant for 2x 980m with a larger heatsink on the P870DM. I remember back in the day the P180HM used a dual fan heatsink on one card it couldn't handle. I expect the Asus doesn't have another fan and therefore needs that water unit. Also how is the 980m working in that Aorus?!

 

The GTX 980 in P870DM uses one giant single T-shaped (Phoenix shaped ) heatsink with 6 large heat-pipes and comes in its most powerful (200W) iteration.

 

Prema, so there is physically not enough room for a 2nd card? Is it an expanded / non-standard MXM card, or?

Here is another video Clevo 870DM + 980, MSI GT72 + 980:

World's Fastest Mobile GPU - Full GM204 GTX 980 for Notebooks

 

The main version used in the P870DM is the larger MXM type card in its maximum (200W with all power phases, inductor & capacitors) configuration, just as touched upon in the videos.
(Standard MXM-B is 105x83mm while this is 115x108mm).

As it stands now a "stock OCed" GTX 980 would not beat 2 OCed GTX980Ms in SLI with custom vBIOS.
So we will have to see what a GTX 980 with removed throttle and unlocked voltage control can do.

But if you can dig up 2 x GTX 980 cards in the smaller MXM-B form-factor (the version with less power phases), then you could use two of them in SLI in the P870DM and beat the GTX980M SLI easily.
The P870DM GPU cooling capacity is just insane and I am 100% that none of the competing systems comes close to the numbers you will see in the Clevo with an unlocked vBIOS.

 

if you cant put them in sli its somehow a fail over gtx 980m sli. But MSI gt80 will have them in sli probably with a core i7 6820hk, prices might be even 5000 Euro for EU customers huhu don't even know whether msi gt80 with dual gtx 980 will support dual psu model??

 

probably gonna get punched here for saying this, but tbh, i like the ZM/DM chassis better than the P870DM...
still, id LOVE to take a peek at the internals of this crazy machine, especially in 980 desktop config

also, i can already foresee lots of user complaints concerning performance when using the regular mxm format and/or lesser tdp rated 980 gpus...

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If you would have posted that on TI, you would have been banned by now!
Guess I will have to have a word with @Ethrem

BTW: We have an owners lounge already:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-p870dm-owners-lounge.781814/#post-10095800

 

Excuse my ignorance, will there be any SLI GTX 980 Notebooks (outside the GT80) ?

 

yes,but with lower tdp versions of the 980

@Prema: lucky me then! subscribing to the new owners lounge as we speak

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Not right now. Maybe later but for now it's MSI only, at least officially.

The DM is a beauty. It's a huge step up from normal Clevo styling if you ask me. Too bad I'll never be able to afford one lol.

 

What about this new P775DM-G? Do you consider it having the same GTX 980 as in P870DM?)

 

Also, Prema said the 980 for the P7xxDM line will be a MXM-B module with lower tdp

 

The official press release of the new desktop GPUs featured in notebooks is some of the best news that notebook enthusiasts have received in a while. Now to see new models actually demo'ed with Clevo being a full desktop (CPU & GPU) in a notebook form factor should be seriously gratifying to that company. The next few months are going to unveil some real winners and the flip side.

 

yep yep, with this release im sure clevo will leave the competition behind even further when it comes to modular/upgradeable mobile components (damn right, looking right at you, alienware! )

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This really is incredible news. Is there any information on pricing for the individual models yet? I tried to find something leaked but was unsuccessful.

 

@D2 Ultima , check this (use google translate): http://www.notebookcheck.com/Skylak...i7-6700HQ-und-i7-6820HK-im-Test.150722.0.html

It seems the new mobile Skylake cpu´s can sustain their boost clocks.

"The defensive timing of Skylake chips by the way also its advantages: In conjunction with the advanced 14-nanometer manufacturing results in a fairly low power consumption, so that both thecore i7-6700HQ and i7-6820HK at pure CPU load is always below their operate TDP-limit of 45 watts. Unlike many Haswell offshoots of specified TurboBoost is therefore kept permanently stable even at full load. The in the past often dubious value of the fastest Core i7 models, which were then thwarted in practice by their TDP limit, falls at Skylake therefore significantly bigger - benefited primarily the flagship i7-6920HQ.

Overclocked Core i7-6820HK to 4.0 GHz

Of course, we did not let us take the OC capabilities of the Core i7-6820HK practical to test and set by Intel XTU tool all turbo stages to 4.0 GHz. Thus overclocked performance increases by about 10 to 20 percent of what the CPU almost on the level of the desktop model Core i7-6700K (4.0 to 4.2 GHz) raises. With good cooling, optimized voltages (we have with "Adaptive Core Voltage" worked) and raising the maximum permissible currents ("Core IccMax") is likely to be even coax even more power."

 

Not sure, desktop-gpu-in-a-laptop hype aside, but considering that for most laptops it's either a single 980 or 2x980m I'd choose 2x980m. Performance-wise it's about ~50% better and not much more expensive.

 

Look carefully at that screenshot... Turbo boost max time is 96 seconds.

 

...but only until lower tdp version of the 980 become available in regular size mxm 3.0 B format. sli those up and ull smoke any 980M sli config for sure

also, id rather call it "desktop cpu AND desktop gpu in laptop" hype, especially in clevo's case!

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Nice catch. Well, it seems we´ll have to wait until someone has one and do proper testing.

 

That time only applies depending upon the PL1 and PL2 levels set, in this case as long as 70.625 watts will support 4ghz and I believe it will in skylake then this time will get reset over and over until it stays above the turbo power level. Until thermal throttle kicks in that is.

 

4GHz is old news. We had that with Haswell. Where's the advancement?

 

The discussion was referred to the picture post above, the advancement in the chip has been posted several times from a build perspective. In the real world you know it isn't released yet so thats a derogatory question.

 

Looking at the picture again, it would appear that I was right about the HK all along. Unlocked TDP to replace the MX line. If that's the case then I bet all 980 desktop edition machines will be sold with HK chips with desktop CPU exceptions since nVidia is promoting this as an entirely unlocked platform.

 

Hmm, with the new P870DM, an unlocked and highly overclockable i7-6700K and the "all-out" GTX 980 version, coupled with monstrous cooling, I think some 980M SLI machines will have a "handful" versus that beast. Now add modded BIOS and vBIOS to the mix, and all hell will break loose.

 

Reading between the lines of what they were talking about with the 980, that is what I was thinking as well, that they might only be paired with unlockable CPUs. More of the waiting game to find out!

 

nah, dont be so sure about that, 980M sli will still smoke a single 980, even full-fledged 200W TDP model. what im curious about is the regular sized 980s with the ability to SLI

 

http://www.xmg.gg/a506/?LANG=EN

http://www.xmg.gg/a706/?LANG=EN

http://www.xmg.gg/p706/?LANG=EN

http://www.xmg.gg/p506/?LANG=EN

You can already configure the A series on mysn.eu if you follow the configuration links on the xmg.gg website

 

The current GT80 SLI does support duel PSU using the same clevo adapter. So I would guess chances are good to support in the future.

 

have you tried with dual psu on gt80? any benefits on 980m sli with overclocking and gaming?

 

Still no evidence I'm accepting yet.

This paragraph is claiming that the reason they can hold their boost is because their TDP doesn't exceed 45W, not because they can pass the 45W limit. I understand haswell draws more power than skylake wholeheartedly, but I still disbelieve it. Until the day somebody grabs a 6700HQ and at stock is able to go render long videos in handbrake or go livestream with heavy compression while gaming and running other programs (easily known to break the TDP limits of laptops) or various other actually heavy CPU loads like even Folding@home which quite a few people do... I refuse to give skylake a "pass".

Also, that OC shot has the temps at 38c and doesn't show TDP consumption nor voltage which means it's just idling, and its graphics frequency is 0MHz which means it's in dGPU-only mode saving some power for the iGPU.

I.E. it's all cherry picked as far as I'm concerned.

 

I have not tried it but there is a member who is running the 970m sli version and they did see a very small gain in their testing, granted they cant push the stock single as hard but to see any gains was a plus. I planned on purchasing but am waiting to see what the Skylake version of the GT80 provides to ensure its not a wasted purchase since I plan on upgrading.

 

skylake gt80 will it have a desktop processor or just 6820hk? any leaks on that?