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    New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MichaelKnight4Christ, May 12, 2015.

  1. octiceps

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    6820HK
     
  2. Brent R.

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    wonder if ill beable to put some 980's in this beast? no? I stlill haven't found a game that will push my 980m's to the max yet so 2x980's will be good for 4k
     
  3. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    330W psu is not enough if you can overclock hardware properly in this beast. Sold here at home in Norway for + $ 3,350 :D http://www.multicom.no/multicom-kunshan-p870-killer-edition-173/cat-p/c/p10632052
    Same price as the CrApple thin AW17R3 with BGA hardware and full "throttling". LOL
     
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  4. hmscott

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    octiceps, do you have a reference/link for that?

    We can't find any specs on the GT80 with Skylake / "desktop" 980 SLI yet...
     
  5. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Papusan, thanks, I don't see a GT80 reference in there, except for comparison to the GT80 with the 5700HQ.

    The reason I ask is I am wondering if MSI might use the 6920HQ in the top spec GT80 instead:
    http://ark.intel.com/products/88972/Intel-Core-i7-6920HQ-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

    If the 6920HQ has the same XTU'ables as the 6820HK we have seen so far, it might be a better choice, and closer to the previous top CPU's in the GT80.

    http://ark.intel.com/compare/83503,87720,88969,88972
     
  7. octiceps

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    There is literally no reason to use a 6920HQ instead of a 6820HK given that you lose the unlocked multiplier and iGPU is inaccessible anyway due to SLI
     
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    octiceps, seems that way, so why is the 6820HK so cheap compared to the 6920HQ, and why does the 6920HQ exist if the 6820HK will out perform it.

    It would be interesting to see the tunables for the 6920HQ.
     
  9. octiceps

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    6920HQ supports vPro, SIPP, and TXT. 6820HK does not.
     
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    octiceps, who wants that crap? ;)

    It sure is nice to have a K mobile CPU.
     
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  11. Meaker@Sager

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    Intel have always had offerings like this, it depends on the usage and the user.
     
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    @Meaker bro Any idea for the barebone price of p870dm without gpu and dual psu? When will it be listed in US?
     
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    still way too early for the P870DM, still about a month away from actual availability and also pricing details...
     
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    Why do you say it's nice to have a K mobile CPU? The XM/MX chips were K CPUs essentially except that they weren't stripped of any features that the normal desktop non-k chips had and of course were socketed. It's nice to see an unlocked chip is still available but its two steps back from where we were with the full featured and socketed chips.
     
  16. hmscott

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    Ethrem, because it's better than nothing?

    We didn't have an unlocked CPU, and now we do.

    Besides, they didn't have to do it for us, we should be grateful, otherwise we might not even get that next time.

    Think of it as building up from what we had - nothing - to a better situation later.

    We can only dream. ;)
     
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    Well in some European Sites prices are up. I have chatted with a hyperbook pl rep. Currently charging 1860 Euro for the Barebone with 2xgtx 970m. Price not fully finalized but should be more or less around that area. But they are not willing to sell without gpus. Stock will come and ready to ship out within oct 7th to 15th. I am looking for a complete barebone now, if with dual psu and 4k screen within 1100~1200 euro woul be quite good atm.
     
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    But we did have an unlocked CPU... The XM and MX lines... Only now if you get a good CPU you better hope nothing ever goes wrong that results in a motherboard replacement and we lose features just like the desktop K chips did.
     
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    usually mobile barebones are always sold with gpu... does make sense, too, if you consider how expensive those mxm cards are in retail!
     
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    Those dates are a little optimistic, October week 3 to 4 is more accurate based on current schedules.
     
  21. JMattes

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    I see Sager has official put out there new line as of yesterday (6700k CPU). Anyone know the performance difference between the 6700k and 6820HK is? and what the cost difference is? $2100 is a little too rich for my blood.. Was originally looking at $1600.. kinda kicking myself I didn't go last gen.
     
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    The P870DM starts at $2499~ and is almost $3000 with the GTX 980 upgrade.

    Since it's basically too heavy to be considered a portable laptop, I still think building a desktop is best (price : performance).

    But damn, it's impressive.
     
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    For the prices I have seen, I am so glad I got my laptop when I did geez....and I got an amazing price almost the same as the price you listed....with the current specs that are in my sig....
     
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    Will the P870DM and P775DM machines be available then, too? Also, is the P775DM chassis with better cooling than the P77xDM and P75xDM? Because it will also offer the GTX 980, I guess it will be a bit beefier cooling-wise. :) Also I hope it's priced a fair bit lower than the P870DM, as it probably won't support SLI options, just the desktop GTX 980. Then there's the question about upgradeability... Options, options, options... :rolleyes:
     
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    That was actually in reference to the P870DM timeframe, we already have stock of the P751DM and P771DM. The P775DM, nothing concrete yet but it will be a bit cheaper than the P870, however the GTX 980 will be more powerful in the P870 than in the P775DM - 200W vs 180W unit.
     
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    @XMG I will send you a pm regarding purchase options in Germany.
     
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    Thanks guys. Can't wait to see some more pictures and information about the P775DM. Seems like a good balance between the beefier P870DM and the P77xDM/P75xDM. Quite the options coming from Clevo, which is very nice to see. :)
     
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    where are the listings for p775dm and p870dm? i cant see it in Sager site.

    A few pages back, I read there will be an 18 inch DM version also any added info on that?
     
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    both machines are still about a month out from actual availability, so have to be patient :)

    as for that 18 inch comment, i think that was more of a "wish" rather than a "leak" or "fact" :p
     
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    Those two models aren't up on Sager's site as of yet. They just have the P750DM and P770DM (NP9758 and NP9778).
     
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    I snuck a peak at the Sager NP8658-S (Clevo P650RG) today.. oh man I can't wait!
     
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    I was initially debating to myself whether to go for the clevo 750dmG or the lenovo p50 but my debate is over. I fell in love with the specs and options of the clevo and I rather have an extra pound and much more cooling and ability to upgrade or replace the cpu.
     
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    Initially I was also interested in the P50, after all - wow, Xeon mobile CPU?

    Unfortunately I'm told this particular Xeon is more along the lines of an HQ quad core mobile processor with ECC memory.
     
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    I'm guessing that finding ECC memory for a P50 or P70 is not going to be easy to find either.
     
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    Search the p750zm thread. IM, I believe, makes an ecc laptop sodimm. Also, they make 16gb sodimms.

    Edit: lunap posted about it.
    Edit 2: @pat@xoticpc - www.intelligentmemory.com/dram-modules/ddr3-so-dimm/
     
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    Does the p650re come with gtx 970m 6 GB of vram? And does the p650rg come with 8 GB of vram? I saw a few different sites listing as such. One site listed that they had mxm 3.0b but i think that was a mistake.
     
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    The RG has the 980m.. the RE I believe was the 970m. Not sure if you can upgrade the RE to an 980m
     
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    Depends where you buy the laptop from - you need to check with the company to see which vRAM model they have ordered! 970M is 3GB/6GB and 980M is 4GB/8GB.
     
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    so this time around the P6 R series will have all vRAM configurations, thats nice to hear :)
     
  40. Prema

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    AFAIK, only the 970M (RE) comes in 3GB and 6GB, all 980M (RG) should be 8GB in the refresh models.
     
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    They won't be able to get them in stock without some form of gpu.
     
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    whats the diff betwn p770dm and p775dm? p770dm cant have gtx 980 only 980m is it?
     
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    The 770dm can use other mobile graphics card as well. But yes, the graphics card is going to be the big difference.
     
  45. Prema

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    P770DM can only use MXM 3.0 Type-B cards
    P775DM can use MXM 3.0 Type-B and MXM 3.0 (L-shaped) cards.
     
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    So P870DM is similar to 775DM, also compatible with desktop CPU and a single desktop GTX 980, but the only difference is the 870DM chassis is larger than 775DM and has the option for SLI mobile graphics (980M SLI, 970M SLI), but not GTX 980 SLI, is that correct?
     
  47. Prema

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    Yes, though the GXX may also come in a lower watt version in standard mxm-b format which supports SLI.
    Also the P775DM 980 is 180W while the one in P870DM is 200W.
     
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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1443213439.979135.jpg
    The P870DM's hood. 6 heat pipes and dual fans on graphic, single fan and 3 heat pipes for CPU


    Boring boring Chelsea
     
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    May have been mentioned/implied but if so I missed it - is the P775DM a 15" or 17" laptop?
     
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    17"
     
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