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    New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MichaelKnight4Christ, May 12, 2015.

  1. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    NP9778 is the P770DM, right? So the 17" lacks TB3, and only 15" P750DM has TB3?

    How about the upcoming P775DM and P870DM?
     
  2. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    dont mix stuff up!

    the NP9778 has hardware usb 3.1 type c, but it supports the tb3 protocol and its 40gbps bandwidth. so it does indeed have tb3! :) its just a multi-combo-port for various connectiom protocols (usb, dp, tb, etc.)

    same goes for the 15 incher ;)

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  3. Nokturnalz

    Nokturnalz Notebook Enthusiast

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    I notice alot of sagers laptops use GTX 980M GPU with 8GB GDDR5

    is this a big difference vs other companies like Asus who use GTX 980M with 4GB GDDR5?
     
  4. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    They are both the same card, just really depends on what you are using it for. For high texture applications especially with 4k, the 8gb would be nice, but most games don't need even 4gb.
     
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    yes and no. in the end it depends on the game, the settings and the display used. higher graphic settings and higher resolutions usually eat up more vram. also, some games are regular vram eaters, but do function fine with less vram as well. id say if ure going for a full hd display ull be fine with 4gb vram, from 3k onwards ull probably be better off with 8gb (although a 980m already pretty much maxes out at 3k res anyways and isnt always able to max out games at 4k)

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    That was my understanding as well, that all the new Clevo models shipping with desktop CPU were going to have the same TB3 combo port.

    This includes P775DM and P870DM, no?
     
  7. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Right, all DM models have the TB3 combo port.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Considering the position in the lineup of all the DM systems it makes sense.
     
  9. Bullrun

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    Haha I go way back to June to quote him and he pops in and ninjas me. :D
     
  10. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    FLAT EARTH Notebook Geek

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    This tb3 topic caused so much confusion for me but I'm glad tb3 (40gbps) is capable on all the pxxxDM models :spinny: thanks guys. @Prema you rock !
     
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    Yeah, I know that. You've had to repeat the info quite a bit. :D My google search "site:forum.notebookreview.com prema clevo tb3" gave me the other result first. :p I actually went back to page two of this thread looking, not in the DM thread, before laziness and google won out. :cool: I may have to favorite that post because this keeps coming up.
     
  13. XMG

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    @Prema and I kept saying that there was full TB3 support ;-)


    The price difference between the 3GB and 6GB 970M is actually pretty low, €40 or £30 or $37 excluding tax so it isn't really price prohibitive at all.

    We do have the Schenker H506 with 3GB 970M and the XMG P506 with 6GB 970M - there is enough of a price difference to make it worth offering the lower vRAM option in the non gaming orientated Schenker sub-brand but I would think given the option of one over the other for gaming the 6GB makes sense every time.
     
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    2bad0 Notebook Consultant

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    any idea which, if any models will have Intel® CM236 Chipset or Intel® QM170 Chipset ? kind of in the market for a lappy with mux and vt -d
     
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    I believe all are going to be the HM170 chipset, at least for what is out there now.
     
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    Ah tough decision if I should go for the new Asus g752 or Sager NP9778-S/Clevo P770DM
    What kind of display does Sager use for the NP9778?

    Anyone know when does the Clevo P771DM come out? I'm really hoping to secure my future with a new laptop with TB3 for eGPU and maybe run 4k on a TV down the road.
     
  17. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    All the new ones
    The NP9778 has a IPS display. This also uses the USB 3.1 gen II which should support TB3 from the previous discussion.
     
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  18. Nokturnalz

    Nokturnalz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ah yes, sorry I seen the previous discussion I was just making a statement, and I was wondering the model of screen they use. Asus has a 75hz screen thats pretty beautiful, and external design and features that are nice, but the Clevo price point and hardware is pretty amazing. So being a gamer, I'm always leaning towards hardware, Anyways thank you for your quick replys and help.
     
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  19. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    All FHD g-sync screens are 75Hz. Doesn't matter if Asus, MSI or Clevo... ;)
     
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    The model in my P751DM-G is 60 hertz...How comes?
     
  21. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    theyre all 60 hz at stock, but overclocked to use 75hz in gsync...
     
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    I think jaybee has you covered on it. :vbsmile:
     
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    The model according to Hwinfo is LG Philips LP156WF6 and based on internetz specifications and the fact that with gsync activated and while ingames everything is caped @ 60 fps...lead me to the fact that it is a 60hz panel.

    What do you mean @jaybee83? Is it like an auto OC for the panel? If so, should I be seeing 75 fps caps?

    Also, all resolutions available are either @ 60 hz or 48 hz. No reference whatsoever for 75hz.
     
  24. jaybee83

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    did you enable gsync functionality in your nvidia control panel?

    edit: apparently you did, hmmm....

    are u able to set a custom resolution profile with refresh rate manually set to 75hz?
     
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    I activated Gsync for both window and fullscreen apps.

    When I set a custom resolution with anything above 64hz I get a black screen amd it quickly reverts, so it's a no go.
     
  26. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I just checked the EDID of your panel and it is in-fact set to 48/60Hz...wow NVIDIA...just WOW.
     
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    Well, keep saying it because it keeps coming up. ;) I guess it will until Clevo and all system integrators, resellers can advertise it.
     
  28. Lurker Below

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    Something that caught my eye was that while the initial press releases regarding "G-Sync coming to mobile" in May mentioned explicitly that 75Hz panels would be coming and would be used in models like the P750 ZM-G, nothing in Nvidia's official FAQ seems to specify a minimum maximum refresh rate to support and they've certified 60Hz panels. Granted, at least some of those 60Hz panels were 4K, but...

    If they've promised that G-Sync @ 1080p would always mean 75Hz+, I haven't found where, yet.

    So... ugh? :p

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2928...splays-as-its-tech-war-with-amd-rages-on.html

    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync/faq
     
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    Don't worry, we will ;) TB3 support is detailed in our specification pages, a bit like HDMI 2.0 where the support and functionality exists but someone forgot to send the memo!!!


    That's correct. They said that those 75Hz panels would "meet their standards" but there are also lower refresh rate panels which "meet their standards". I don't know if anyone actually said GSync = 75Hz in an official capacity.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Everything they can make money with by selling those licenses meets their standards...it's just a sad story turning even sadder...
     
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    Like this or is there more I'm missing?
    I do think the line above that one is an error though.
    I think it's 4 not 5. Maybe the P870DM (U726 or U716?) specs got put here?
    http://mysn.co.uk/xmg-u706-gaminglaptop
    Do NBR rules prohibit you from linking your specs in clearing up this issue when it comes up?

    I just checked the U506, it lists 4 x USB 3.0
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes it's 4x (one as an esata combo) and a usb 3.1.
     
  33. XMG

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    About the TB3 - yes that is what I was refering to. We can specify TB3 and HDMI 2.0 even if Clevo can't/isn't.

    You are correct on the USB3 - there are 4 ports including the eSATA combi port, I will have the web team correct it - think it's just a typo, sorry for any confusion.

    NBR rules prohibit company reps on here from linking directly to their company website, so in some instances like this I can't be as specific as I would like. There are exceptions of course and the mods can approve this if necessary, but not for general sales or product discussions.
     
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    I'm a bit confused about Thunderbolt port...Are the two mini display ports on the P650RE/P650RG Thunderbolt ports??
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Only PxxxDMx models have TB3 which is part of their USB 3.1 ports.
     
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    How come I don't see the clevo p771dm on any of the sager websites? I only find it for purchase on XMG?
     
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    Is anyone selling the P775DM yet? All the slightly-different model numbers (and every reseller's individual branding) make it hard to track down what's what.
     
  39. TomJGX

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    Thank god I didn't go for all that GSync hype... So much fail from NVIDIA...
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    Its not really fail. Just not all panels are overclockable to 75Hz. The technology is still solid.
     
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    You can always swap the panel in the future.
     
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    Is anything new/amazing coming out from Sager/Clevo that would be worth waiting for?
     
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    P870DM a.k.a "Rising Phoenix" would be THE machine to wait for in november if ure into DTRs. if not, then u can just go for the clevo P6xRx series for best compromise between, size, performance and battery life :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Interesting thanks, I love DTRs, but I wonder how the cooling is going to be with those desktop 980's, but man, those FPS numbers are amazing. Makes me think about waiting, ahhh why have you showed me that model! I MUST have it! lol ;) Back to the waiting game.

    I wish it was an option to get clevo P6xRx series with TB3
     
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    Sounds like the cooling should be up to the task of handling the 980. Nvidia said they were making sure cooling was good enough or improved on existing models to keep temperatures appropriate for the graphics card.
     
  48. jaybee83

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    oooh trust me, if it comes to gpu cooling, the phoenix doesnt have any competition out there. i mean....look at that heatsink!!! :eek: o_O :D its a friggin copper love fest, if there ever was one!
     
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    Ugh I wish I didn't travel for work so much or I would... It's just glorious....

    Maybe the p775dm is a better DTR compromise for a rambling man such as myself...
     
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    So, if one was looking at a 15inch instead of 17 is there anything akin to the P870DM forthcoming? My old beast is finally dying and its time I joined this decade.
     
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