New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

You'll be surprised at number of republicans with Priuses and Tesla. They just don't want govt handouts and stimulus.

source: me / my company did some data crunching and analysis for RNC.

 

That is bull hockey!!! They pour tons into energy subsidies. They don't mind giving corporations hand outs, especially if they are invested or receiving donations from them! It is false!

 

ghedge might be on to something. Most of the ppl in my circles care for using natural resources responsibly - wanting to make sure we have clean air and water, and to treat our environment with respect. It's not rape and pillage the earth all the time, but being responsible for what we do use. For example, fracking is a hot topic in the last 10 months in the Midwest, and there are ppls on both sides here and these folks are mostly within the same party. The GOP in the US is a big tent, and to lump all ppl with a single viewpoint is narrow minded.

Now, can we please get back on topic. The Wingman is just around the corner, and I would much rather talk about that.

 

ok i'll ignore all the data and take your word for it.

Telsas building gigafactory in Nevada. It chose nevada among other things a sweet deal it got from state govt. Nevada has a republican governor and GOP majority legislature.

Republicans are for supporting industries - tax breaks / cheap land/ handouts however you want to call them. what they are against is govt funding industries directly.
ex: Solarcity funding by Democrats. now widely considered a failure.

Both Telsa and Solarcity are from Elon Musk. A tale of two approaches.

 

Indeed. The Wave is also round the corner.

 

It's saying you are using correlations as causative and have inadequate controls on your methodology. It's ok if you have no idea about standard methodology and show what you want without actually properly doing a study. It's the republican way!

 

Gents -

I know I started this whole Democrat vs Republican thing, so I'll stop it. We're going off-topic and beginning to descend into political debate and almost personal attack. Let's all keep that to the Off-topic sub forum.

 

got an abusive rant from @ajc9988 in my PM. that i just reported to the mods


on topic,
anyone know if Clevo is thinking about bringing a 14" P740DM ?

 

Cool. I just didn't feel here was the place for the discussion.

Edit: BTW, has anyone seen any news of gddr5x being used in mobile video cards next year, especially on the high end?

 

Hmm. After even more thought, I starting to see why waiting out for Clevos with mobile Pascal seems like a legit move:

1. Current cards cannot do 4K output well.
2. Even if possible, 4K laptop screens eat up too much battery
3. Output to external displays can be hit-or-miss affair due to Optimus/MSHYBRID confusion
4. Current cards are at least an year old
5. Current games seem to be straining current cards already

This train of thought means the following possible courses of action:

1. Wait for mobile Pascal, which should resolve all these at one go. Just a matter of how long can that be...
2. See if current Clevos have MXM, which will allow for future resolution of most points (especially 4 and 5). But will the Clevos support future cards?
3. Change expectations, reconsider the need of how much computing power needed on the go. This means a need for a stronger PC to somewhat "cover" for the loss in computing power, but this also means a need to manage both systems somehow (current plan is to let the Clevo as the main computing device, PC as backup server).

Am I thinking this right or am I missing something else?

 

This is entirely my opinion - but I feel this is not a good idea. A small but thick machine? Er... No, thanks. P640RE/W230SS look good enough and are plenty powerful.

 

Due to the thermal constraints of a smaller system it would not really make sense.

 

Any chance the N350DV and N350DW get an upgrade? It's a pitty they don't have any USB-C/Thunderbolt/HDMI 2.0/DisplayPort. The same applies to their respective docking station, which also does not feature any UHD@60Hz output. Since their target group will most probably utilize an external monitor (hence the docking station), such a connection should be considered as a must!

I believe these models are currently without any competition in the market, and this drawback is a major limitation that should be upgraded.

 

Not entirely sure if that would be something they would come out with a new variation of that soon, or not. Usually when a model is refreshed, it is due to new processors or GPUs. Since that has a skylake processor in it already, and no dedicated GPU it might not see a refresh when any kinds of new graphics cards are released in the future.

 

Unfortunately no :-(

 

Has anyone seen this yet on ZEN benchmark:
http://www.bitsandchips.it/english/...ks-the-next-amd-uarch-is-a-major-step-forward

@jaybee83

 

oh this is beautiful add to that updated cpu revisions, higher clocks, boost functionality and finetuned / debugged arch and we finally have some serious cpu competition for intel again! maybe thatll finally make them forget about igpu and boost actual cpu performance again

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk

 

When the hash on an 8 core consumer chip at 3GHz (AM4 socket) beats out a 2660v3 (10-core xeon which may actually have two of those considering the 20X in the image) on the hash test and goes toe to toe with the 6700K at 4GHz on bandwidth and a little less with raytrace, by prime-time this fall, this will be a BEAST (especially if the mid-90s TDP reported for their chips holds for this one, as compared to 120-145 for Extreme Editions on Intel's side). They are estimating something competitive with Broadwell-E in the 8-core AM4 chip, but what is making me dream is the early 2017 G-socket server Zen chips with HBM2!!! Recent reports have it that the upcoming radeon cards will be GDDR5 (which means most likely GDDR5X and maybe HBM1 as it has not been ruled out). It would make sense to save the good stuff for the server chips meant to steal Intel contracts. Imagine having the server chips with 12-16 core and HBM2 in a low (relatively) TDP package.

Also, Intel is in talks to license tech on the iGPU from AMD as Nvidia's license is out and they are not the way forward with DX12 (think of AMD in all consoles, iGPUs, and the success with Fiji and potential success in Polaris)!

Either way, they have half a year to get it right, so plenty of time to fine tune!

 

I want OLED

 

Not to burn your hopes but this article was released on April 1, can you still trust it?

 

For notebooks not only does the performance have to be there but so does the power consumption.

 

-18inch G-sync
- i7-6700K
-Aluminum/Magnesium construction
-Better/bigger keyboard
-2 x 980 SLI capable

All I want.

 

Clevo generally doesn't do 18 inch models for the most part, 17 is the biggest you'll find. I can't think of an 18 inch one in the last few years. There aren't any 18 inch GSync screens out (not sure if there any coming up in the near future).

 

Clevo should see the opportunity now. AW lying down with a broken back and MSI put in soldered processors in their Gt80. Such a model would become a success with proper hardware + a 18 inch screen (whether it is G-Sync or not)

 

Good 18 inch hardware parts are hard to come by, by sticking to 17.3" it's easier to keep the system up to date.

 

Meaker,

Any ETA on a US release of the P775DM, P775DM-G, P775DM1, and P775DM1-G?

 

I have no info on that, sorry.

 

The last info we have is that the P775DM, P775DM-G, P775DM1, and P775DM1-G, models will not be offered from Sager or the resellers.since these models are just a secondary ID of the P770DM models that are out now. Sorry.

 

I really wish there was an 18 inch Clevo lappy

 

If you wait for an 18" or another Intel-E model like the P570WM, then you will probably wait for a long time...

 

The main benefit of the P775 is that it gives 180W version of the GTX 980,in a slimmer and less expensive chassis than the P870DM this is because it is a single MXM chassis so you don't need the additional space and weight to accomodate a second MXM, or pay extra if you only want one GPU. So an extension of the P770DM, correct in a way, but the P775 offers more options and power than it's slightly smaller sibling ;-)

Also have to agree with other comments RE 18" models. From what I see there simply isn't the demand for this over a 17.3" chassis and offering an 18" would likely mean that it would replace a 17", not run side by side. Panel options alone for 18" would cause problems - with a 17" range consisting of 3/4 current models it gives more purchasing power and better supply stability.

 

Can we expect a new clevo laptop form factor this upcoming computex?

 

As a big 17" the P570WM struggled to have world wide appeal and an 18" machine would be a similar form factor even if it was not as thick.

So yes, while there is a call for it on the forum, it needs wider appeal to support a model.

 

Not helping that the trend seems to be on portability nowadays...

 

I think on the 18" models that are out there (GT80, previous AW models), people were more interested in the powerful configurations more so than the actual screen size. Yes, there are people that like the screen, but the feel I got talking with people is that they cared more about other specs/features.

 

So we agree then ;-)

P570WM wasn't a massive seller, though it was a massive laptop. But any 18" model should be equivalent to a P870 form factor as technically there would be room for SLI GTX 980, but (obviously) next gen cards have been dictating future chassis design.

Yup exactly, the panel size wasn't the defining factor - 980NU wasn't mainly 18" because it was built around an 18" panel but because it was the method chosen to cope with SLI and keep it relatively slim (when it was built rather than compared to current products).

 

Yes we do agree, I loved the P570WM but when you got down to it the thing was truly massive, on a scale unlike any other really.

 

Will there ever be an 11" refresh???

 

Erm, I think it is too small if it is for gaming (other purposes should be fine, but then again, I am spoilt by my huge 17 inch screens )

 

I haven't heard of a lot of demand on a smaller model like an 11" size. I don't think there is anything in the works.

 

Again it's all about testing the market based on your feedback, but then it comes down to hard numbers at the end of the day.

 

I skipped the DM generation entirely to wait for Pascal. Better be damn worth it.

 

Any chance of infinity edge based clevos coming any time soon

 

4K displays, 4K displays everywhere!

 

We are not far off that now.

 

I just hope a 120hz panel option will be avaiable soon...

 

I had never saw the infinity edge 4k in person until a few days ago and WOW they are pretty sweet I agree. Put them on everything lol.

 

If panels were available it would certainly be looked at hard, we need another generation of dials for that though.

 

I would think Pascal would be able to push 4k in next gen games with ease. Will NVLINK be exclusive to desktop class CPUs/GPUs?

 

Performance and any technology changes would fall under NDA.