New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

any chance of polaris version of p750dm ?

 

Mobile versions are going to need a performance jump of 50% + over 9 series before they are getting close to playable 4K res with reasonable quality settings (by that I mean 30-40fps region), but non-M are a lot closer already.

 

That means no 120hz for the pasqal release aswell?

 

That's not confirmed either way yet ;-)

 

Argh, the more I read and I wait... I really hope the new stuff are going to worth the wait!

(Also deciding if I should go upgrade a Q6600 rig into something a little better just to tide over...)

 

New 4K/120Hz come late in Q4...

 

Mind telling us more NDA info?

Sent from my potato running on Android 5.1.1

 

Sorry that was about the only thing not covered by that...it's already part of the public VESA documentations since about a year.

 

What I said explains the lack of 120hz panels now.

 

thx for the info! This will be a nice christmas present to myself this year

 

Wow, that is completely different than I expected. I expected to never see 120 Hz in laptops ever again. Very interesting.

 

With the rise of G-sync and its requirements it frees up some of the panel restirctions optimus had fun with.

 

Full size keyboard for 17 inch laptop.

 

Seems to be more of a growing trend here of people wanting that, but I'm not sure if it would happen though.

 

Not a lot of laptop companies make full size keyboard for 17 inch. AS far as I think, only ASUS and Alienware make true 17 inch keyboard. MSI and Clevo have to step it up for their keyboard

 

Yeah, its not common. Been discussed before, but manufacturers will make a keyboard that can be used for 15 and 17 inch models. Not a hugely demanding feature to have a larger keyboard on 17 inch models, at least from my experience talking with people in the market for laptops.

 

Generally, as long as a laptop has a numpad, I'm happy.

 

True. Moreover, many people prefer to have 15 inch laptop rather than 17 inch, since when the laptop size goes up to 17 inch, it is nearly impossible to carry around. On the other hand, 15 inch, while some models are still heavy, it is still the comfort zone for carrying the laptop. So... I see where MSI and Clevo is going for, even though I don't really like it

 

There is plenty to choose in if you want low power laptops or smaller size than 17. It is much less choice if you want high performance laptops. Only a single brand can offer this... Clevo.
BTW Now increase also Acer the thickness of their rebadged 17 inch Predator. Hope this trend continue

 

What if they could figure out how to get a smaller form factor on height of a mechanical keyboard? I wouldn't mind an extra 1/2" or 13mm

 

Smaller form factor mean only one thing my friend. Worse cooling.., Why do you think Acer had to increase the thickness on their Predator BGABOOK when they decided to use 980?
My bad. But if they shrink thickness on any parts on a laptop, something will be worse.

 

Honestly, i think it is not worth it. The idea of mechanical keyboard on a laptop is nice, but it would be too heavy (EXTRA 800 ~ 1 kg), and might have to sacrifice all the upgradeability of Clevo laptop.

 

Friends, I don't think I explained properly.

First off, this would go for 17" DTR type laptops. I would like to decrease the thickness (height) of a full sized, mechanical keyboard, not decrease the thickness of the laptop. IMHO, increasing the thickness the laptop to accommodate a larger solid/stable KB, rather than these thin, flimsy 15" keyboards we have right now would be a blessing.

If you're suggesting leaving the KB height the same, I just don't think adding another 2 to 3" (50-100+mm) to the thickness of a laptop for current mechanical KBs would fly. But an extra inch or so? Wouldn't bother me.

Also, assuming 17" or more, give me a full sized KB width! OK, I could probably live without the numeric keypad, but if an engineer could figure out how to 'slide' out a numeric keypad, why not!

 

To me, adding 1 to 2kg to a DTR based form factor wouldn't be as much as a deal breaker. You're already lugging around 12-15kg (or more depending on PSUs), so what's an extra couple of pounds if it means a much more pleasant typing experience.

 

If Clevo will design and use a mechanical KB for newer laptops, I think this will be immersed in the cabinet. = Less space for hardware = Hotter hardware, Guaranteed a failure.

 

While I agree with your premise fitting more stuff in the same space will lead to more heat in current models, I'm of the mind set that the Clevo engineers could figure out a way to increase size only by a slight amount or increase efficiency of the cooling. Hmmm... perhaps they can figure out how to capture Norwegian winter nights and put it into the heat sink, heat pipes or the air flow itself.

Before coming back with logical arguments against all of this, I'd like to remind everyone the title of this thread does contain the word "wishes".

 

Would shorted everything inside the machine. Humidity is not electronics best friend, LOL

 

The new corsair swift switch is about as thin as you want them, otherwise membrane keyboards do better.

 

I not so sure about mechanical keyboards... But I am sure that I want keyboards that let me press more than 5 keys at a time

 

Will be a while before anybody else has access to those specific switches, as I think they have a 6 month agreement between Cherry and Corsair.

 

Yes that is true but really they are still too thick for sensible notebook use.

 

Well there is the Lenovo Y900 thats been revealed for while now with apparently a mechanical keyboard but I can't find and details for it (not surprising since its not out yet). From pictures it doesn't seem like a traditional cherry-like switch with large keycaps, they're still chiclet style keys so Lenovo may have found a way to may low profile switches. Really is the only reason I'm so interested in that laptop.

 

I for one would prefer they not stick a mech keyboard in their lineup unless they have a model with the same features minus the mech keyboard.

Always liked the fact that I could use a nice and powerful clevo in the office without incurring any attention.

Really looking forward to 16/14nm GPUs!!

 

Probably wouldn't be the same model, just with different keyboard offerings, because of the room that a mechanical keyboard would take up. If there was something set up like that, it would most likely be two different frames used.

 

Yeah, that's why I said a model with the same features minus the mech keyboard

 

You would have two totally different chassis as the inclusion of a mechanical keyboard totally changes the design.

 

Seriously who gives a damn about bloody keyboard on a Clevo laptop? Eye candy? Go buy Alienware. Chiclet? Almost every other laptop brand out there since the MacBook. You want proper gaming/fancy mechanical KB buy external ones from Logitech or Razer, or just buy a whole desktop already. People and their silly ideas. Let's go back to computing power please.

 

What in the blazes are you talking about? A proper KB makes something like the P870DM a full mode beast.

While I do agree with computing power statement (pls Clevo get back to Hex/Octo/Deca based CPUs), GIGO holds true, and is equally important on user input. Ask @Phoenix how well he does with typing on these forums.

Fixing code and presenting solutions to customers while being able to competently type in front of them is paramount... 'Silly ideas'... indeed.

 

It is kind of the wishlist forum, just to talk about what we would like. So the power of the system is obviously going to be brought up, as well as the physical traits of the computers people would like to see.

 

Not everyone has the space to have a laptop and a keyboard...

 

To me, a keyboard is of utmost importance just like are any other parts of the computer like CPU/RAM. Sure those are the most important, but if I can't type properly on this bloody 15 inch keyboard after 4 months of owning this laptop, and mind you I have small hands, then something needs to be done.

And now I don't want to buy a throttling Alienware or any other brand. I just want this small adjustment to be done to the keyboard and I'm a happy bunny.

I don't know what stupid decision Clevo made to put a 15 inch keyboard on 17 inch laptops came from. When I look at the keyboard, I feel sorry for the wasted real estate that could have otherwise be filled with a decent and big keyboard.

 

I have to disagree on the keyboard thing. A mechanical keyboard on a DTR is not as important as say better cooling for the cpu and gpu.. I'd rather have better hardware 65W / 85W cpus, 980m/980 gpus with better cooling than a 67000HQ and 960m and a mech keyboard.

for XPS15/MBP/ZStudio/Clevo 651 the keyboard matters as they are a lot more portable and are very likely to be in meetings and presentations and such.

 

As we are on the topic of keyboards: Configurable gaming keys would be nice like Asus (G752) . Also a switch between intel and dedicated graphics like MSI (GT72), so that the presence of a battery has at least some point.

 

Who said these things had to be mutually exclusive? Why would a superior keyboard necessarily mean a trade-off for better cooling cpu/gpu?

This is a 'wish' list, isn't it? In a previous post, I asked for both. Hopefully, the Clevo engineers are getting this feedback.

 

Well normally for a laptop when you get something improved you have to compromise in other aspects, be it cooling, thickness, weight or price etc. You can't have the best of everything in a laptop (with affordable price), so customers have to priotize what they want to have, and as a business Clevo would obviously want to optimize features that most people want, to which I'm afraid keyboard doesn't belong to.

Personally I would sort keyboard second to last place when choosing a laptop, just ahead of sound. And I don't think Clevo will install a mechanical keyboard anywhere in the near future, the sacrifice is just too much while the standard one already works for most people.

But who knows, we are in the wishlist topics, if you voice your wish loud enough maybe Clevo will fullfill it one day

 

superior membrane keyboard sure. but the reality is engineers will have to make trade offs between space for components and cooling vs space for mechanical keyboard.

 

This pretty much, a thicker keyboard leaves room for less stuff inside the chassis itself so perhaps thinner heatsinks or less drives.

 

Not sure I'm in the majority, but would gladly trade a membrane or whatever for ~ 12mm more in thickness on the chassis.

 

I wish Clevo would offer an optional keyboard that had smaller arrow keys in trade for a full sized right shift key and number pad zero key. It would also be very cool if we had bios level fan controls similar to desktop mainboards.

 

Do any current laptops tout BIOS-level fan control?