Since I'm planning to get my first Clevo, my wishlist would be similar to yours. The only thing I would add would be G-Sync for a 1080p 15-inch zm model. I find the 4k excessive especially if it's for mostly gaming. Although I'm quite interested in having a 4k laptop, I don't want to sacrifice the framerates.
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4k is excessive for 15.6 inch IMO. 4k should be applied only for 17" and bigger laptops. it's kinda sad they announce the P750zm-g in 4k. why not 1080p?MichaelKnight4Christ likes this.
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This is because the other resolution displays do not work or have not been approved to work with G-Sync at the moment. It's not a decision to limit G-Sync to just the higher res panels!MichaelKnight4Christ likes this.
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Or rather they don't want to pay Nvidia for G-Sync approval on other than their premium screen. It's not so much of an approval as "pay us F you" situation.MichaelKnight4Christ and octiceps like this.
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Maybe I gave the wrong impression when I said "not been approved to work with G-Sync", I'm talking about approval following testing and not approval from Nvidia. It's not a decision made on the grounds of cost.
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If I understand correctly, this has to do with 60Hz panels being overclocked to 75Hz right? They cherry-pick the panels which can be overclocked safely hence being approved to work with G-Sync?
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In essence that's correct!
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MichaelKnight4Christ Notebook Evangelist
I hear ya but I have no interest in anything above 1080p on the laptop screen. Playing or doing work on a 4k external monitor thats bigger makes much more sense but not for a 15 in laptop screen imo. The gsync laptops by nvidia are cool since prema already confirmed a mod for that.
I just don't like how much more expensive those gsync notebooks are with those displays and I really hope when clevo has skylake motherboards that they don't decide to force those screens on without giving individual customization options. I wish I could see the price on those DM models already because I would love to have a newer notebook already. Either way as much as I would love to upgrade I can still be very patient if I need to be because I need the next machine to last me 5+ years and thankfully my current notebooks are still going strong. -
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The 4k will scale well to 1080p anyway of course. I wonder if it clocks well at 1080p.
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What do you mean by clocks well? Hz?
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Yes, since G-sync requires a connection to the nvidia GPU custom resolutions will be possible.
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sweet but the big question is will there be a way to get systems that can support it (such as mine) on to those systems? Like will there be a way to add g-sync to my laptop now I can go 80+hz easy and have 2 980m's.....
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I would say it's on Prema's "To Do List" scroll down to the comments.
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Yah will be neat to try out sometime eventually
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It requires fidling with digital signitures, about as fun as ramming your head into a brick wall.
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I guess he likes pain
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
He also likes beer money when people enjoy his work too
Just don't forget that part, he works rediculous hours on this stuff.
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A few girls I know like pain.
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MichaelKnight4Christ Notebook Evangelist
Alright so gsync is here now and the computex show is over pretty much and we know skylake 107 mobos are due august I guess ....so when can we finally get some confirmed info and specs regarding new clevo machines lol?
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I know if he can get me g-sync I would absolutely donate enough money to get a bunch of beer!
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MichaelKnight4Christ Notebook Evangelist
What ??? hahaha thats pretty funny I hope you were joking pal because with all due respect Nvidia has enough legal problems already with falsified data on gpu's to name one. If anything it should be gpu buyers kncking on nvidias door asking why the heck are they getting shafted. -
Why even say that? Let me guess ur buying one that comes with g-sync already ?
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I think you need a refresher on what /s means.
And no, I'm not interested in a G-Sync notebook at this point in time. I already got a new laptop in February this year. -
Lol guess I do never got a lesson on it actually
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Just a case of waiting a little bit until more panel options become available;-)
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MichaelKnight4Christ Notebook Evangelist
Yeah I can be a patient person but it also comes down to something affordable and I'm hoping the less expensive screens will be an option for up coming DM models. I saw nothing wrong with the base screen found in the original ZM models. To be more specific I'm hoping if needs be, that I can bypass gsync all together if necessary to keep the cost down. I prefer to spend the money on other areas and not the laptop screen. -
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The screen is how all info from the machine is displayed to you, sacrificing that can be a false economy when things like ram and ssd upgrades are much easier down the line.
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Good point Meaker... go cheap on the easily upgradeable pieces.
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Yes, the screen is the most important part of a laptop if you ask me.
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I think we might finally be getting some screens to tempt you, as a gamer an IPS 1080P G-Sync display (with a little refresh rate tweaking) will actually be an upgrade.
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Probably. But in the past week I've only managed to game for like 4 hours.... :-(. I tried AC3 and ... kinda boring.
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Im not asking to sacrifice a screen that's absurd, Im asking for less expensive screen options or the same basic zm screen for the upcoming model DM model as a choice. I think the prices for the new gsync models are more expensive than it needs to be.
One thing that I noticed is this forum goes berserk when discussing screens and what they want and frankly if people want to spend a extra 200 on a high refresh rate or a 4k screen that's there business but Clevo/Sager I hope is wise enough to include options and not force those screens with the upcoming model. I for one see nothing wrong with the base screens provided with the ZM @1080p for a 15inch laptop lol. If I want 4k or such then I could always go an external route in my logic as it would be a much bigger screen ect.Last edited: Jun 16, 2015 -
Well it is what we are starring at when we use the laptop or play games but I get what ur saying I have the reg 60hz screen in my laptop and it's beautiful but I also have a 120hz screen for it that I got for free that I have been literally begging someone to install it for me or help me do it and so far no one has helped so it's not easy to upgrade a screen as it is other parts in the laptop ........someone plz help me with my 120hz display I have money
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Just for the basic Idea, AFAIK I think you should be able to locate the eDP connector on the mobo and replace the LVDS (that's the standard on AW's with 60Hz panels, So It should be common for all panels) connection, leave the LVDS and use the eDP wiring provided with the 120Hz....re-wiring , opening hinges, LCD housing, making use of IR port...You might need to do a proper teardown job.
This is how they look on Alienware 17
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Except that the ZM models apparently only have eDP *OR* LVDS connectors soldered on. So if you buy a LVDS model you can't get eDP. The P37xSM and P37xSM-A models were the only ones that mostly came with both ports.Ashtrix likes this.
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I thought you knew I had a sm-a model NOT a zm my laptop has both, but I don't understand what @Ashtrix is saying....I have both LVDS and eDP I have the eDP cable and the 120hz display maybe I should just sell them I dunno I would really like to use it but I don't feel confident taking basically the whole laptop apart
I really wish that Xotic would install it for me I still don't quite understand why they won't
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I made the statement because he was talking in the thread for the upcoming models and mostly about the ZM models XD. I know you have both. Dude, if you wanna install the screen, just do it. Ask Wingnut or some other user who has done it and just do it. If you aren't going to do it, I guarantee you that Sager will not, and Myth says they won't touch a warrantied system... so you might as well sell the screen.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Time to youtube a teardown and take your time on a nice clean table
just don't use force to solve an issue.
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Yeah I have seen some but never my model or one similar and never at all, down to the motherboard, thats the part I am most conflicted with getting to the motherboard and also taking the display besel off I am not good at taking apart those plastic click things I ALWAYS end up using to much force and breaking them plus it scares me that no other place will do it not even xotic where the laptop is from it must be hard to do if they won't do it... and D2 dude I will do what I want and say what I want dude, chill
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It's a bit intimidating i'll admit, the risk vs reward is quite unbalanced to do the upgrade too.
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exactly I am mostly wanting to do is so that if there is ever a way to get g-sync then I will beable to use it because from what I have read gsync doesn't work for LVDS screens only eDP....so with this current screen which I really like and have no probs with I wouldn't beable to use gsync but with the 120hz display its eDP so I would beable to use it...I guess I could start worrying more about it once there actually is a way to use gsync that is IF there will be a way, don't really care that much about 120hz, the only reason I have the screen is that the 120hz display the edp cable, the Cool Master SF-19 (which I don't use it either lol) and 2x512 Crucial mSata drives came for free with my laptop when I bought it....
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The 120hz screen wont be validated for G-Sync so it wont be easy to do by any means.
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well I don't think any of the screens anyone has right now, unless they just bought a laptop with gsync would be validated would they?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Some machines with eDP displays have the right hardware but pre G-Sync so no firmware signatures. There is hope they can hack it in with firmware and bios updates.
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Don't attempt to simply cross-flash P7xxZM g-sync BIOS vBIOS to non g-sync systems (or the other way round) or the system will go blind with no picture...Last edited: Jun 19, 2015
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Good suggestion, i'd leave it to people with good recovery methods to figure out how to get it working.
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In my opinion, I feel like Clevo is lacking in the 14" gaming notebook department.
For consumers that want that size and portability, the only real options available are the Razer Blade and the Gigabyte P34, all of which cost an arm and leg.
If Clevo made a 14" gaming notebook equipped with a 960/965M with a reasonable thickness, they would sell like hotcakes in my opinion.Ionising_Radiation and Prema like this. -
I want a laptop with the following specs:
LGA 2011 v3
Supports the 5960x at a minimum, Xeons even better like the Panther 5SE, Broadwell and Skylake just seem like a step backwards
Most import 64 GB DDR 4 memory, I run VMs for work and I need the memory more than anything else
Always want SLI with 980Ms or the next gen
Best display possible given the current tech on 17+inch display
Not so hot on the mSATA (no pun intended they do get very hot), prefer RAID 0 SATA with 3 drives, like the Samsung Pro V-NAND drives, they have very fast small writes, exponentially faster than other SSDs, use to be an Intel bigot for SSDs until these drives and prices have dropped drastically
Better keyboard, keys have no real feel/click and cause skipped letters when typing
Better and more current bios and driver update download/support
Get the weight out, way to heavy, my current Sager/Clevo P570WM is a lead weight
Better external power, lighter and single bricks that do the job w/o the need for two
10GB network adapter, I run a 10GB network at home and bums me out my laptop has 1GB network adapter, I prefer dual like my servers and workstation
Fix the sound its terrible
I like the ports on the sides as is, I don't wanna reach around back to plug things in like USB network etc.
Fix the power connection to connect better and not slip out all the time after a while
Do something cool like Apple does with their mobile tech and MS did with Kinect that no other laptop has just to keep us interested/excited and make us want to upgrade
Drop prices, make this affordable for the masses with base configurations and cheaper for power users
Demand better turn around time for delivery from your distributors, don't sit so far back and just deal with the importers and not manage the distributors better
Love my laptop but want so much more/better next time around and ready to buy now so get something done ASAP.
Not liking what I see from the latest models.MichaelKnight4Christ likes this.
New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?
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