New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

Yeah, ahem, I can, ahem, attest to that...

 

You're in good company then as being on the first raft of these things can sting (just like my current system bios).

 

We'll thank you to the people who are testing this stuff out


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At least with gpus with the proper system can recover them but with my system bios not even a manual flasher will do, you have to remove the chip to program it.

 

Given the information in this thread, I guess it's safe to say that if you're in no rush to get a machine, it's best to wait for the upcoming release. Thanks to everyone who is updating us on the info. I was looking to purchase the 9773 but since it's not urgently needed, I think the wait will be worth it.

 

but what are you waiting for?

 

I read that there will be new panels for the 9753. The reason I chose the 9773 was because I found the 4k screen excessive on a 15.6" screen. That and I prefer matte displays. If it's just a matter of waiting, I have no problem since I'd prefer the size of the 9753.

 

If you are not in a hurry then waiting a little wont hurt to get exactly what you want in that case, once other panels get varified and used there will be more options obviously.

 

Let me just add in that not only are just screens expected but we also are waiting for systems that come bundled with new cpu motherboards, gpu maxwell refreshes, extra options like thunderbolt, windows x os, and possibly more mobility products by the end of this year and onward into 2016. Waiting and patience always pays off.

 

What Michael said is why i am waiting. The new USB standard and Thunderbolt won me over. I am not sure about the GPU refreshes, i think its still at least 8months away. But if there is any rumour that newness is coming Christmas, itll be the icing on the cake.

 

Well windows 10 is going to be a free upgrade and will be supported anyway on that front but if you are going to need usb 3.1 then fair enough.

 

I rather have a fresh new clean copy of windows x rather than the free upgrade from win 8. Many times the upgrades have lead to problems in my field especially when it comes to compatibility or errors when trying to roll back data. And usb 3.1 is not really big on my list what I need is the thunderbolt 3 actually.

 

MS stated you'll be able to do to a clean install or tempt fate with the Win7/8.1 to 10 upgrade.

 

Their actual words ??!

Holy ... that's just ... a very unexpected course change towards honesty. There's hope, after all ...

 

Lol, no the "tempt fate" upgrade part was my creative spin on it since I've never had great success at a OS upgrade... here is the Twitter post from Gabe Aul about being able to do a clean install from the Free Upgrade.

https://twitter.com/GabeAul/status/605899873360019457

 

It's a good excuse for a clean install anyway, but I have managed upgrades in the past for my wife and other family members who insist on not starting over.

 

I never had good experiences with windows upgrades and usually always run into a issue here or there mostly with drivers or some older apps. I will wait until windows x is released and tested and will get one with it pre installed from the vendor. When I finally get my machine I waited so long for I want to be able to boot it right up and start with a fresh clean slate. My first laptop still has win xp oem and my other 5yo one still has the oem win 7. When I did try to upgrade those it was a disaster lol and had to roll it back several times. I think its best to get a new machine after the newest OS are released.

 

you don't have to upgrade win 8 you can do a fresh install if you want that is what MS said ...

 

i was really interested in the NP9773-s, but after a little bit of research, it looks like i'll wait.

when will the NP9773-s receive a refresh or update? i'm waiting on the new Nvidia GPU's to come out.

 

Are you waiting for Pascal? That's around Q3 2016...

 

geez . . . that's a pretty long time. is Pascal supposed to be the 1000-series?

is the 990M the Maxwell refresh? that's supposed to happen in a couple of months, correct?

 

Yep, 990m is Maxwell refresh.

Edit: I've never heard of them making a 990m, so it may just be an internet rumor. But I don't follow Nvidia that much, so I couldn't speak to it other than it would be a Maxwell card.

 

oh yeah, i forgot the x90-series cards are dual GPU's.

 

We have no confirmation on the 990M, but after making the 480M mistake, I can understand wanting to wait for the best GPU possible.

 

A refresh is a simple GM204 with more units enabled, it's easy to do since a fully enabled core is more power efficient anyway.

 

I'm just hoping pascal will be a mxm card but if not, having a thunderbolt 3 will be the best means of a future proof back up since it will open up the chance for desktop gpu functionality via external monitor at the very least. At this point all we can do is patiently wait until the next skylake Clevo's to finally arrive in Asia and Europe since they get it first. I wont mind a decent Maxwell refresh either as it will still improve overall gpu performance.

 

That's assuming you do get external docks that work well. They have not materialised thus far.

 

Nothing is even released aside from the gsync laptops so naturally we would have to wait for the laptops and see if they even have tb3 ports first before anything will materialize. The egpu setups, diy docking setups and even vidock seem to be working with lesser tb2 and tb ports so I think the only thing to worry about is weather new Clevo books will have a tb port at all. If it does then more than likely egpu docking will work.

Hopefully something gets revealed soon in anticipation for Fall/winter 2015, with skylake, windows x , and a maxwell refresh I'm dying to see some new machines already lol.

 

P65xSG refresh wishlist:

Skylake
Maxwell refresh with 980M successor
G-sync
Bigger battery
USB 3.1
Better behaving fans at idle (not going VRRR VRRR while just browsing for example)
Less of a 'fingerprint magnet' finish
Not so tight fitting bezel to reduce background bleed

 

Any idea when we will see a new line of Sagers? Maybe with the new processor line that MSI is offering.. the 5th gen

I like the Sager models and I am looking for a new laptop.. is there anything coming up in a month or so what's worth waiting for or should I push the button now and get a sager and have no regrets.

 

You are speaking of broadwell-CPUs. You can already use Broadwell in the P75xZM/P77xZM-Series.

 

We're clueless when skylake(6th gen) processors will arrive for purchase but I will continue my resolve and wait despite the fact I am long overdue more so than most members here. If you need a pc now then you can get one and the 4th and 5th cpu's are both about the same performance wise give or take. To be honest I am waiting for more because I want something that will stretch longer than most with the ability to upgrade since I have no interest in selling my machines or buying new ones often.

I'm even starting to doubt skylake will be released this year at all since the only thing we have are some sketchy charts with no real conformation from Intel. I am in no hurry what so ever, one of the marvelous benefits of being in my mid 40's and the longer you wait the better tech you will get. According to Intel skylake will be an advancement not seen since last decade so I am calling their bluff and waiting to see this but if you can't wait 3-6 months then your not in the same position as I am and maybe you should look for something now.

Intel is a freaking double edge sword one part you like them because they have great mobile options and strong chipsets that are a bit more cutting edge, but then you hater them also because they have been promising then delaying the new chips people were looking forward to in addition to making z97 useless since skylake is not compatible with it and we know a new mobo will be the standard soon for the next gen of upgrades.

Being patient and not wanting anything is the best as well as having faith it will all work out in the end.

 

One more month and then some until its actually shipping...after IDF

 

Yea I make a similar post about being patient for the new line of Sager.

The problem is how likely Clevo can pack a 990m to the P650x series with a broadwell cpu?

 

I would think they will go with Skylake over broadwell

Question is what difference will it make and how much more will the ddr4 cost..

 

Wow... Everyone wants fire-breathing, overpowered monsters. No issue with that, but I'd rather something smaller, stealthier. Like a B-2 Spirit vs a B-52 with all guns blazing.

I'd like it if Clevo put a 965M/970M in a 13-14" chassis with a 16:10 screen, maybe 1920x1200. G-Sync and MUXed displays would be a nice touch - since I usually know what I'd be doing with the notebook when I turn it on. And would choose my GPU accordingly. I don't expect socketed CPUs/GPUs in such small machines.

A better cooling setup than the W230SS is a must - the current model loops one heatpipe over the other, adding unnecessary bulk. The battery could be integrated like what occurs with the P65XSX series. Cooling vents need to be shifted to the back where the battery currently is.

Face the speakers upward, with better sound quality too.

A nice metallic chassis as opposed to the current heavy plastic one would help nicely, too.

And please, smaller power adapters...

This is basically everything that's wrong with the current W230S series, which is in dire need of an upgrade...

Clevo, please don't abandon the small notebooks.

 

The W230 series was pretty successful, so I wouldn't doubt that they'd offer a refresh of a 13" chassis. The current one is definitely getting long in the tooth though. Including a 970m in a slightly thinner form factor would be a nice touch, but 965m seems more practical for the form factor.

 

GPU, perhaps. But we have socketed CPU in a 13" now, no need to step back from that for the sake of -0.25" thickness .

Yes to both, but as an option, not the default.

The value:money you get for the ST/SS/SD is crazy, don't want to loose that. Aluminium alloy and small form factor adapter add ~25%-33% to the base cost; have them as a user/reseller optional upgrade. Same with the battery; offer a dual thickness, +50% capacity type alongside the regular, flat one.

 

There will be no new W230xx model this year...

 

Mostly it's for the sake of intel only producing one kind of CPU

 

Yep - fair enough seeing that we already got the W230SD this year. But, as already mentioned - I'd like a P6 30SX, maybe? Similar design (i.e. aluminium alloy, built-in battery) to P650 series, but 13.3". Upgraded internals too - GTX 965M or even 970M versus 960M?

 

It actually has! Remember the 960m?

 

He probably knows that - he meant that there wouldn't be anything further than that either.

 

my wishlist
Skylake desktop
Hopefully ddr4 RAM that's expandable up to 64gb. Possibly more, don't know the limits.
Maxwell refresh with 990m/1080m?
G-sync
4k ips screen. I guess the sharp 4k screen in gsync flavor
Slightly thinner
2 pcie m.2 slots instead of one so I can RAID 0 them
Better behaving fans at idle (not going VRRR VRRR while just browsing for example)
Thinner bezel
Better track pad for times I can't use a mouse
HDMI 2.0 port


If they are able to crank out a 17 inch laptop with a 4k ips screen then i'm sold!

 

Broadwell will be the final chip before all the sockets will be replaced so its the last of the older gen. Skylake when released, will be the first of a new generation of socket. So not only will it have more use in potential upgrades for the next couple of years, Intel claims boosted performance in nearly every field including performance and efficiency by at least 10% or greater.
The first available chips are scheduled for August and more variations of skylake including mobile chips will follow suit eventually later on. As for the cost of ddr4 its expected to be a bit higher I can't tell you how much exactly because I just don't know yet but I expect around $30-50 bucks more per stick. Again I'm just guessing based on current setups.
http://wccftech.com/intel-launches-...th-august-skylakes-platform-roadmap-detailed/

 

Think Prema already mentioned it in this thread (or another Clevo/Sager thread) that they are skipping Broadwell and going straight to Skylake. In fact there are only a handful of manufacturers that have Broadwell laptops and those are dual core mainstream systems (Apple, Dell, HP, Acer, etc.).

 

aorus and msi seem to be putting them in laptops already

 

Slightly thinner = An worse cooling of hardware. What happens then? There are plenty of CrApple thin laptops. Most have throttle problems. Not desirable.

 

The " batman" laptop with the desktop cpu is thinner and has better cooler than the laptop in my description. Explain how that magically happened?

 

I prefer laptops with the same thickness as before (model specific) (not made thinner) but with improved cooling. A better choice. But that's my opinion. Why have/buy a laptop that is thinner? Buy rather a tablet or mini laptop. Or at worst; A CrApple.