ONLINE PETITION for BIOS updates on Clevo HM model series.

i wish that we can buy the upgrade kit from europian resellers..!

 

although i'm not affected (ordered clevo for the first time now (p150em)) i still congratulate you guys! have been following the thread since start and i really loved how you actually accomplished something! gratz!

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they are literally saying that you have to have a certain LCD for the card to work.

I believe they are using which screen was the default, at the time of purchase, as the method of determining which motherboard is on your machine.

The LG was the original, during the early times in which boards could only accept Nvidia or AMD.

The Hannstar only shipped with the revised mobo, which could take freely Nvidia or AMD, which is why this revision is plug and play.

 

Its pretty simple, download HWiNFO64 (I grabbed the portable .zip one) and it will display most if not all of the hardware in your notebook.
You can then choose to do a export to different files if needed.

 

Longlive Kingpinzero & Sager!!

Emailed Sager.

 

Am I right in saying all I need is the mxm card. Heatsink is the same?

 

Ive heard the heatsink is the same but thermal pads are in different locations.

 

Although that may be true, owners of HM platforms with an upgraded screen are still in the dark regarding compatibility. I ordered my NP8170 last April with an AUO panel, and currently there is no way for me to know if the 7970M is plug and play.

 

Hey guys they send(sager) me this:
Sager Techsupport [email protected]

Sorry to tell you your model P151HM did not support 7970 GPU only model P170HM nad P150HM
???????????

 

Seems like they won't be able to support the P151HM's..

 

"8130 did not support upgrade to 7970 only for model np8150 and 8170" - this is the responce i got from sager today. This just cant be true since i've seen ppl that has their laptops upgraded to 6990m. If 6990m is supported why not and 7970m?

 

as like me-i had gtx460m and then i upgrade to 6970m.
why not cant be upgrade for the 7970m????
i know lot of people upgrade their gpu......
I DONT KNOW WHAT IS HAPENING HERE

 

They are able to be upgraded just fine, you just need a 180W PSU then you're all set.

 

Listen to this from sager)
The P151HM did not support any GPU that need more than 100 watts power and Clevo did not approved for hd6970.

So the coclusion is that the 7970m is compatible....
What do you think guys?

 

so it is compatible.
Yea i know i have already the 180psu thats why i can play with 6970m.
Can you send me one?

 

I don't think there is a problem, since p151hm1 and p150hm are actually the same. The only difference is the psu and you already have the 180W model.

 

ela re patrida,pou eisoun re?
i already told them that i have and the 180w psu and the 6970m.
Maybe they dont know?????

 

They are saying the same they said about the NP9130, they are just following what Clevo says, they didn't test anything... You can just tell them that you will ignore them since it was confirmed by other people that it is possible, and that you just want the GPU independently of what they think is possible or not.

(Let us know how that goes. )

 

Just show them the money and ask again!

 

Here comes confusion madness...

 

Can some1 with 150hm post his mobo name?

 

Hi Guys, first post, but long time reader. Hope you dont mind me posting on such a hot topic, but i have some information as i wish to upgrade too, and emailed sager.

I have a p150hm, and live in Scotland - They said the kit would cost $530 + shipping.

Sorry if this information is already out there, but i am excited as you guys to get this new card in my less than 1 year old pc

Hopefully, the UK specialist, pcspecialist.co.uk will be offering direct at some point.

 

check @ PCSpecialist and PWNPC's, we'll see who is first to deliver the good news around Europe

 

Unfortunately I have the LG screen, which makes the upgrade process just slightly more annoying. I would rather not have to send in my laptop to Sager, so I may just swap in the Hannstar screen myself if I can easily get my hands on one since it's supposed to be better anyways.

Does anyone know where I can purchase one of the Hannstar lcd's? I believe I remember coming across a site that specialized in selling laptop lcd screens in the owner's lounge thread, but that was about a year ago.

 

To answer the request of testing on the NP8130 and NP9130 series.

Sager NP8130 and NP9130 will not be approved to support any GPU over 75Watt TDP. regardless of the AC Adapter used.

official notice from Clevo to Sager is that we are not to interchange motherboards between P151xM1 and P150xM for any reason.

as the motherboard may share the same BIOS, ID name and the same plain board Major version and minor revisions. the power components used on the completed boards are different.

the power tolerance design and component used on the P151xM1 motherboards is to support GPUs with a max of 75Watts only.

you will be shorting the life span of the components on the mainboard if you install a 100 Watts GPU in these units, therefore Sager will not be testing any 100watts GPU modules on the NP8130 and NP9130 for any reason.


Thank you,

 

I have a P170HM with a "Hannstar HSD173PUW1" monitor, however this one is a Clevo, not a Sager (don't know if this matters, but far as I understand Sager and Clevo use a different bios).

Can I upgrade? If so, is it as simple as just swapping the cards, or do I need to do some sort of modification and bios-upgrade?

EDIT:

Seems I got so excited that I didn't bother reading the whole post from Sager



Ignore my post

 

So it would work, but would reduce the life span significantly.

Basically no "official" next-gen GPU support for the older HM1-series.. but it can be done

Try switching the card if not, a Sager BIOS flash or so should do it.. wait until some people confirm this you'll save yourself a lot of trouble

 

if you look at rjtech you could get a shell if you ask them to remove the powersupply and screen, with just the motherboard for less than 500, just take all of your parts and move them over. Clevo P150EM, 15.6", Switchable nVidia GTX 670M 1.5GB/Intel GMA HD GPU, DVDRW

 

Seems i can get the HD 7970m upgrade kit for 530 USD from Sager, but im not sure if it will be worth it with import tax & shipping yet.
Might be easier to get it locally from Multicom.

For the same cash i might actually be able to buy a GTX 680 4gb instead, but then i would have to sell my notebook to buy the rest of the desktop parts.
I do like portability so im porbably gonna go for the HD 7970m instead.

 

why not wait until the 680M arrives, I mean, wouldn't hurt

 

I might do that but im afraid that card might en up to be WAY off budget for me.
Im also saving up to get a 2920XM + a bigger SSD. xD

 

hmm wierd when i asked sager they quoted me 430 for an upgrade kit, i guess im special, although i have a p150hm.

 

probly just a typo 530 instead of 430

ok so this just leaves one very important questions guys: earlier it was reported by mythlogic and eurocom that 7970m gpus are NOT plug n play in the HM series (both 15/17" model), but now sager got them to run by disabling the enduro functionality. soooo... what exactly needs to be done in order to make them run properly?

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im not so sure what sager said was there would be different pricing for a sager/non-sager, i gave the rep my serial number, and it was built as a sager, although i bought it as a malibal so i think if you have a sager its cheaper, i would like to think its sort of a previous customer bonus if you will

 

I take it all that needs to done is to flash the vbios? If that was shared then those of us without a Sager and outside the US could get it at a more reasonable cost.

 

I need to know aswell, i have the Clevo P170HM and i have bought the Radeon 7970M card on my own... not from Sager, and now Sager wont help me

So now im stuck with a graphic card that can not run :/

I really thought Sager would share that information! i guess they didnt!

 

ok so i take it that the only option would be to buy directly from sager. which makes sense considering they were the ones to make it work in the end, so of course they wouldnt like any competition on this i guess wed have to wait for someone to receive his sager upgrade kit and then dump the vbios for the rest of us to chime in with gpus from other resellers

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I wish they made a DIY kit. That'd make a perfect sense to me. But I guess they want to make $ on labor also. Greedy baskets!

 

What happen when you fit the 7970m in place of your 6990m ? Do you experience no display/blank screen ? Do you have a screen that is fully compatible according to Sager statement?

 

We will have them available for everyone here soon enough, we just have to get the 7970m pump going.

Yea its just a vBIOS change to turn off switchable graphics and then you are all set.

You DO Have to have the latest version of BIOS/EC for the laptop itself. Also if you do have the "incompatible" screen yea, you'll either have to send it in or swap the screen, and for the prices they are talking to "fix" the screen.. you could just buy another screen lol.

Our previous statements were based on a old Dell ES 7970m that we had which the dells WONT work in Clevo's, period

 

Wait... I don't mean to hijack this thread, but since the vBIOS manipulates the ability for switchable graphics to work properly in HM models, would it allow the 7970M to work at it's highest potential without Enduro in EM models?

 

Nope it certainly won't. The dGPU and iGPU are muxed in the Clevo's EM, that will just cause some more issues as you can't disable the iGPU completely.
Also, the Clevo don't seem to suffer from the Alienware 7970m troubles: even if Enduro is activated, the GPU performances are great.

 

Aww... I was hoping something along the lines of "Yes!"

But that is perfectly fine Just like you said, the muxed gpu performance in the Clevo's EM is fantastic and from the performance screens of those who have them, that definitely seems to hold true.

Great news for the HM's nonetheless.

I plan to purchase an AMD 7970M in a couple of weeks for my EM.

I'm very excited!

 

Cant send you a private message Control13 but if you do upgrade to a 7970m and the price is right, I might be interested in your old GTX670m.

 

So since the EM series is muxed we won't be able to upgrade GPU's next year???

 

lol dude, the gpu´s dont even exist yet, so no one would be able to answer that question yet, not even AMD / Nvidia engineers

 

Maybe this will come in handy for those looking for new LCD displays - compatible with the new video cards:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...41-manufacturer-websites-laptop-displays.html

 

I still dont think it has got anything to do with the actual LCD panels, Sager just used it so people know which motherboard REV they have!

Hannstar was on one of the latest P170HM versions! for example!

 

Mythlogic, do you care to comment on Sager's statement that putting a 100W GPU into the P151xM1 notebooks will shorten their life span? Have you guys made any test that would indicate how the notebook would behave over time with such upgrades?

 

I dont know man-im already use my hd6970m for about 1year and something.
And it plays like charm
never had any isues.