The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    ONLINE PETITION for BIOS updates on Clevo HM model series.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Kingpinzero, May 25, 2012.

  1. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    we definitely need more resellers out there offering the 7970M upgrade kit. just got a quote from sager for the kit and including shipping, bank wire transfer international shipping with UPS and the stupid 19% import tax it would go for almost 800$! :eek: thats 680M territory!!!

    mythlogic? care to do some competitive pricing here? :p
     
  2. Control13

    Control13 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hm... not sure why you can't PM me but here is my email

    [email protected]

    I won't be selling it for much... probably in the $50 to $200 range. I'll most likely be selling it during the Fall/Winter time if you can wait that long haha.

    Wow... that sucks! They quoted me at $430 for the kit :/
     
  3. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    251
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    41
    yea the same with me-530$+130$shipping+25$ bank transfer+??import tax :eek:
    What the hell?? :p
     
  4. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    well sure, the kit only goes for 530$ in my case. but add to that: 110$ shipping to germany, 25$ bank wire transfer fee and 19% import tax = 765 bucks :(

    best thing would be to make the modded vBIOS publicly available so it wouldnt matter where ud get ur 7970M from, ud just go for the best pricing and flash the vBIOS urself :p
     
  5. Tmets

    Tmets De-evolving to Amoeba

    Reputations:
    550
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    151
    I'd wait until European resellers and builders offer it. Any comments from them?
     
  6. Delpan

    Delpan Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    120
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I wont wait for that, just buy the card of the nearest local dealer....

    And fix the vbios stuff yourself like Jaybee83 said.... :) someone just needs to share the Sager info!
     
  7. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,238
    Messages:
    2,021
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    101
    I can help you with the price of the card a little, but things like shipping to germany taxes etc I can't help you with :p

    But we'll take your german CC lol. Especially if you just need the card.
     
  8. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,610
    Messages:
    3,745
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    116
    More like :eek: that's new laptop territory....

    UPS is one of the most expensive international shipping agencies that I know of. I will also need international shipping but after seeing your quote it seems like a waste of money and bordering on ridiculous. Unless places like PCSpecialist or box.co.uk start offering these upgrade kits, it is simply not worth it (in my opinion).
     
  9. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    well lets see....

    shipping: u dont necessarily have to use UPS, theyre just waaay overpriced in my opinion. i mean, how come eurocom manages to offer me a 69$ shipment?

    as for the import tax....lemme send u a PM :D

    id need the gpu with a heatsink, x-bracket/backplate and matching screws. concerning the heatsink i could just use one from the P150EM, since theyre compatible with the HM series :)
     
  10. Tmets

    Tmets De-evolving to Amoeba

    Reputations:
    550
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    151
    You will be able to get these in Europe soon if not already. No point paying delivery from the USA.
     
  11. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    sure theyre available in europe already, but not with the modded vBIOS. thats the culprit here....
    still keeping my options open tho, looking around... :)
     
  12. pau1ow

    pau1ow Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,336
    Messages:
    1,181
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    66
    The real problem is to get this vbios, otherwise it shouldn't be too hard to find the cards... :rolleyes:
     
  13. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    sure... but then again....how to flash the vBIOS onto a card that wont run at all in my laptop? :p its a chicken and egg kinda problem :D
     
  14. Tmets

    Tmets De-evolving to Amoeba

    Reputations:
    550
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Unless other resellers get hold of the vbios and start selling the modded cards.
     
  15. pau1ow

    pau1ow Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,336
    Messages:
    1,181
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    66
    You can always blind flash (with an autorun.bat it makes things easier) and the card is actually running, just there's no display.
     
  16. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    dammnit pwn pcs, go get a hold of that modded vBIOS and give us european HM owners a quote we can live with! :p :D

    "shut up and take my money!" ;)
     
  17. 4st3risk

    4st3risk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    414
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I've got ThinkPad Display 1920x1080 in my laptop after warranty replacement.
    Hardwre ID: MONITOR\LEN40B2

    Or is it just Lenovo drivers? Why are they installed? Auto Windows Update or Sager rigged me an LCD?.. Weird as shizz.

    What are the chances that it'll work with 7970m?
     
  18. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,238
    Messages:
    2,021
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Story time =)

    AUO B156HW01 V4 (AKA 95% Gamut Matte LCD) we're originally commissioned by Lenovo for the W series laptops. Hence why their plug-n-play ID is no AUOXXXX but LENXXX as they were the ones who paid for the R&D and all the screens to be made. Everyone else just buys basically stock off that production line.

    So when lenovo produced basically a basic color profile for the V4 screens tuned for their laptops they released it to windows updates with that PNP ID as when to offer it. So thats why if you have a V4 matte screen you get offered that "driver" its not really much of a color profile, and we usually disable that update so its not offered but thats why it shows up like that.

    Its just a standard screen it'll work fine.
     
  19. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

    Reputations:
    317
    Messages:
    1,474
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    i think that all of the p150hms were ok with a vbios mod, so it should be fine, but to be sure go ahead and send sager an email.
     
  20. 4st3risk

    4st3risk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    414
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Oooohhh. Great bedtime story! Thanks for sharing.


    They were clueless when I wrote them that my LCD is shown as Lenovo. They asked me if that's my external monitor. That's why I'm asking around here. :)

    They offered me to send them the laptop to check the compatibility. I guess they are hurting for work or just nice? It'd be even nicer of them if they packed it and send it over instead of making me send them my laptop at my expense and pay for labor. :)
     
  21. Wallzii

    Wallzii Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    236
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I've been waiting for a response from Sager for three days now regarding my NP8170 and its compatibility, still nothing. I ordered it from XoticPC on April 26th of 2011, but it didn't ship until June 23rd as the AUO B176HW01 V4 screens were on backorder.

    It was mentioned earlier that the screens actually have nothing to do with compatibility, but rather were used as an indication of what revision your motherboard was and if that motherboard was compatible with the 7970M. As I have an upgraded screen, how am I to know? That said, I have an AMD card already.

    Perhaps I should skip Sager and talk to Xotic about this, as surely if I gave them my order number they could find out the details of my system, and talk to Sager directly themselves regarding anything I need to know?
     
  22. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

    Reputations:
    317
    Messages:
    1,474
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    my monitor shows up as lenovo too after a windows update, ill give you the rundown of whats going on.


    • Sager and Lenovo use the same model of 95% gamut screen for their 15.6" notebooks.

    • lenovo has registered that screen with windows update so that it will receive automatic updates if it finds that that particular screen is found in any computer

    • When you first got your p150hm it probably just said plug and play display

    • But after lenovo made a driver update available on windows update, for whatever reason, windows update applied the update to any device with a matching part number, regardless of whether it was lenovo or not, with your permission of course(you probably didnt know what it was so you just checked the box for it)

    • Now your device manager says that you have a lenovo display when in reality it isnt made by lenovo it is made AUO or some other screen making company.

    • The point is that it doesnt really matter what the screen is because sager said that the 7970m worked in all p150hm as long as the vbios had enduro disabled. of course they were clueless, lenovo unknowingly gave free drivers to products that weren't theirs, and they didnt know that sager was using the same part, and neither did sager.
     
  23. copelandmaster

    copelandmaster Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    21
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Well...I guess I'm super late to the party and totally have no idea what's going on.

    I bought a Sager np8170 3D model with a 485m from LPC Digital in July 2011. After owning the thing for the year and experiencing 3d vision firsthand and how it totally destroys my card's performance...I'm hooked and want more. So I was thinking about upgrading to a 680m. Then I read a couple of pages of this thread.

    Could someone kindly update a lost soul on the status of 680m compatibility for this model?

    (I already know about the whole cross platform incompatibility w/ AMD, plus y'know, 3d vision junkie).

    I know that NVIDIA themselves has to enable Driver support for 3d vision, but let's face it, an np9170 3d / p170em3 will get here eventually, it's only a matter of time. But what's the point of waiting if my damn laptop won't boot when I put the thing in for 2D gameplay!!

    I can't go back to a 60hz screen. I just can't.

    Also, has new MXM spec been released?? I guess it's to much to hope that the GTX 780m will be compatible in summer 2013 :(
     
  24. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

    Reputations:
    317
    Messages:
    1,474
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    According to Sager the p170hm3 with a 7970m does not work, as is tradition with that notebook and amd cards.

    There havent been any tests for the 680m because its still under nda, if i do declare, and such.

    There has been a new revision of mxm, called mxm 3.1, but its backwards and forewards compatible with mxm 3.0b, the only difference is it supports pcie 3.0, which only has increased bandwidth compared to pcie 2.0, but there will be no difference in performance as cards such as the gtx 590 and 6990 run off of one pcie 2.0 slot with no bandwidth bottlenecking whatsoever. Also i dont think there are any chipsets that actually have this new mxm3.1 yet so there is nothing to worry about on that front.

    so basically wait and chill like the rest of us folks waiting for the 680m.

    on a sidenote, i overclocked my p150hm to 90hz on the screen and its so smooth, i cant even imagine how 120hz looks.

    good luck
     
  25. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

    Reputations:
    317
    Messages:
    1,474
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    bump

    10char
     
  26. Delpan

    Delpan Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    120
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Anyone who has recieved their Sager upgrade kit sofar?
     
  27. Wallzii

    Wallzii Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    236
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I was told the kits wouldn't be available until the end of June from a representative at Sager, so I would assume that no one has received any yet.
     
  28. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

    Reputations:
    2,529
    Messages:
    3,107
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Sager gotta serve customers who is waiting for their shiny new notebook before throwing HD 7970m into upgrade kits.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  29. Tonrac

    Tonrac Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    301
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    82
    Trophy Points:
    41
    The mission is not complete, first we haven't got any guarantee of the compatibility of the GTX680M, second: only sager had made an effort, so the price is huge for a lot of european customers. Congratulation to sager, for the test on the 7970m, for releasing a compatible version but Why do you close the petition?
     
  30. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    mythlogic is working on it as well, and their prices are definitely much better than sager`s, especially for european customers :p i guess well just have to wait a bit till other resellers catch on with the modded vBIOS.
    and yeah, would be great if the same could be done for the 680M as well!

    cheers
     
  31. Wallzii

    Wallzii Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    236
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    31
    What kind of price are we talking here? I'm about to pull the trigger with Sager, but if there are more... economic options out there, I won't hesitate to pursue them. :D
     
  32. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

    Reputations:
    317
    Messages:
    1,474
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    the price from sager if you have a sager is 430, the price from mythlogic is 430 regardless of if you have a sager or not, so its your choice if you have a sager, but if you dont then go through mythlogic.
     
  33. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    word ;)

    10char
     
  34. Tonrac

    Tonrac Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    301
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    82
    Trophy Points:
    41
  35. Virale

    Virale Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    312
    Messages:
    529
    Likes Received:
    775
    Trophy Points:
    106
    EEEK! I'm so friggin' excited! Thank you Sager, and thank you all whom pitched into this effort. Big rep to Kingpinzero!!!

    Now I have to decide if I should wait another month or so for the 680M... :rolleyes: :confused:
     
  36. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    hahaha, nice one virale, you speak our minds :D what kinda machine do u have? :)
     
  37. Tonrac

    Tonrac Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    301
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    82
    Trophy Points:
    41
    I think i will wait the GTX680M and if there wasn't solution to make it compatible with P150HM or if the cost is too huge then i will go for the 7970M.
     
  38. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

    Reputations:
    1,439
    Messages:
    2,332
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Thanks Virale, but this is everyone merit :)
     
  39. Wallzii

    Wallzii Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    236
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Well I'm just waiting on a final reply from Sager regarding the payment process, and a shiny new 7970M will be on its way soon. :D

    I'll be sure to let you guys know if I encounter any problems with my AUO panel once I have it installed.
     
  40. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    same here, finalizing a "deal" with mythlogic, cant wait :)

    Sent from my GT-I9001 using Tapatalk 2
     
  41. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    248
    Messages:
    562
    Likes Received:
    461
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Keep us updated jaybee83, I might do the same... copy cat...
     
  42. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    will do buddy :p

    OT: sorry about tre kronor btw! @euro
    i myself will have a hard time coming up now with the quarter finals@germany vs. greece (both my home nations! :eek:)
     
  43. psarrism

    psarrism Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    66
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    That's not a dilemma, isn't it. :D
     
  44. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    yeah well i guess ill just cheer EVERY goal that happens, no matter for which team :D i would have preferred that constellation in the finals tho :p
     
  45. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    248
    Messages:
    562
    Likes Received:
    461
    Trophy Points:
    76
    sweden vs france tonight, but as you said, we're out of euro... so not very exited about that game. I'm suprised that greece made it, maybee a re-run of 2004?
     
  46. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,610
    Messages:
    3,745
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    116
    I am doing the same too for a UK purchase (have an AU panel). I can't wait and have anti static equipment, cleaning, pasting and screw drivers at the ready :D

    MX4 should do....
     
  47. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,151
    Trophy Points:
    931
    good times for HM users :) and soon ebay will be flooded with 485M/580M/6970M/6990M gpus :p

    Sent from my GT-I9001 using Tapatalk 2
     
  48. 4st3risk

    4st3risk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    414
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Are they not making you to send them your laptop for upgrade?
     
  49. Wallzii

    Wallzii Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    92
    Messages:
    236
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    31
    No, they are sending me the kit. Payment information has all been accepted, now I am just waiting "until the end of the month" until they are in stock, and then I will be charged. They were even kind enough to ship through USPS when I requested it, so I don't get hit hard with brokerage fees through customs into Canada.

    All in all, Sager has been great throughout the whole process. I had a lot of questions before I ordered that they promptly answered. The end of the month cannot come any sooner!
     
  50. Religion

    Religion Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    31
    This is all good news but I really want to see a 680m in my laptop, if that doesn't happen I will get the 7970m or just a 11.6" sager :D
     
← Previous pageNext page →