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    Official Coffee Lake Thread/BIOS For ALL SkyLake/KabyLake Clevo LGA1151 laptops

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaMafiaGamer, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. IllusiveMan

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    Are there MXM3.0B 1080 2080 cards??
     
    IllusiveMan, Sep 22, 2020
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    These are MXM 3.0b cards
     
    radolf, Sep 22, 2020
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    MXM-B refers to a specific standard form factor, not just the connector, and these are not standard to my knowledge.
     
    yrekabakery, Sep 22, 2020
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    Yes, the form factor is the same anyway! It depends on the pin assignment. From the Pascal series on clevo has a new 3.3V line and an activation line for the card (1.8V).

    This is the only difference on the hardware side. On the bioside it does not matter if the bios knows the new graphics card or not! If not, you just make a graphic driver mod and it works in any case!
     
    radolf, Sep 22, 2020
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    What standard MXM-B form factor 1080 and 2080 cards are there?
     
    yrekabakery, Sep 22, 2020
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    I'm curious about which gtx1080 or RTX standard form factor cards exist as well.
     
    MKazmer, Sep 22, 2020
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    what do u mean with that ? I'm aiming to update to i5 9400F/i5 8600k that's all !!!
     
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    Can u help me to do the update or do u have a guide on how I can do the bios update?
    RTX 2080 MXM are u serious man what form factor ????
     
    Mauserk98, Sep 22, 2020
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    There is only the minimal change as described above! 1x 3.3V and 1.8V. That's all the rest is identical to the predecessors!

    The Bios flashing is relatively simple. But for the eighth and ninth generation you have to be careful and use the Pin Mod.

    On the graphics card side YOU have to adjust the heatpipes, that's where the biggest effort is! YOU have to solder the pins on the motherboard accordingly! Do you already have a GTX1080 or RTX2080!?

    Where do you come from!?
     
    radolf, Sep 23, 2020
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    Clevo GTX 10 and 20 series MXM won't fit in the P750DM.
     
    IllusiveMan, Sep 23, 2020
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    It goes already, but times must change much at the fan etc..
     
    radolf, Sep 23, 2020
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    The board shape and component layout are not the same. I think there is a language barrier here.
     
    yrekabakery, Sep 23, 2020
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    There is no language barrier! I know what the PCB of the GTX1080 and RTX2080 looks like - I know the differences! I also know the complete pin assignment! With the P775DMG you just have to watch out and modify the fan!
     
    radolf, Sep 23, 2020
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    What I mean, for starters, is that you have to tape two of the CPU pins. It's less than an ideal situation.
     
    MKazmer, Sep 23, 2020
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    This is true from the research I have done. I am also a P750DM owner.
     
    MKazmer, Sep 23, 2020
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    ?

    I thought we were talking about the the P750DM, not the P775DM-G.
     
    yrekabakery, Sep 23, 2020
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    P770DM/P775DM can be modded to fit Clevo shape cards, there is physical space.
     
    IllusiveMan, Sep 24, 2020
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    That does not make a big difference!
     
    radolf, Sep 24, 2020
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    An alternative to doing a bunch of modding to get a bulkier gpu to fit the P750DM is to run a quadro P5200. It's standard size and probably just as fast as a GTX1080. I recently installed a P4000, and it's noticeably faster than the GTX1060 I had before, so I would imagine the P5200 to be a serious GPU.
     
    MKazmer, Sep 27, 2020
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    Wanted to say the price must be unacceptable, but who knows, taiwan is most rich country in the world.
    It's MXM 3.1, so yes, pin mod is needed.
     
    IllusiveMan, Oct 2, 2020
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    Sure, if cost isn't a factor in your decision or you have a need for it, an RTX5000 would be even faster. There are some with MXM 3.0, but you can expect to pay $1,500+ for it. Considering the P4000 was around $300, I don't think the RXT5000 is five times faster. There are definitely situations where this would be necessary or very useful, however, for my mobile workstation that uses a 1920 x 1080 resolution screen, the P4000 gets the job done. However, I did recently acquire a P4200 that I plan to replace the P4000 with soon. I also plan to shim the CPU to try and get the heatsink flush and also tighter fitting. I will post new benchmarks once I get it up and running.
     
    MKazmer, Oct 2, 2020
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    Core position is non standard so the heatsink would not fit.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 3, 2020
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    Exactly.
    More, in the 15.6 model the fan will not fit.
     
    IllusiveMan, Oct 5, 2020
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    Hello folks i have an "Clevo p751DM1-G" plz I need ur help I want to upgrade my CPU from I7 6700 to i5 9400F/i5 8600K but i need ur help with the bios mod can anyone help me !!!!
    I know with i5 9400F can work with 1 issue for sure NOOOO G-Sync :( :(
    P.S I'm a NOOOOB when come to bios update and such thing but I'm a fast learner ;) ;) :)
     
    Mauserk98, Oct 5, 2020
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    Hi...Do you mean that with i5 8600k G-sync still working ???
     
    Mauserk98, Oct 5, 2020
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    Even with i5-8400 Gsync is working.
     
    FTW_260, Oct 5, 2020
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    Updating BIOS is not difficult, it just requires a little reading. I'm pretty sure it's been covered many times over here, but I will provide some info below:

    1. Use a program named Rufus to make a USB boot disk that boots to DOS and put the new BIOS on there with it (Not in a folder)
    Download Rufus here
    2. Set windows to boot from USB and boot into DOS from the USB
    3. Enter commands to flash the BIOS

    Here is a better step by step

    There will probably be a little reading for you to do these, but these are the steps and whether someone writes out all of the specifics or copy/paste it from somewhere, you will still have to read it and follow it.


    Below is an example of how I would start searching these steps I provided.
    [​IMG]
     
    MKazmer, Oct 5, 2020
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    So long as the donor bios has the same white list.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 6, 2020
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    Mauserk98, Oct 14, 2020
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    IllusiveMan, Oct 14, 2020
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    The quadro based ones, have you seen others based on a standard shape?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 14, 2020
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    Hi guys ! I'm new here. I just want to ask, to make sure that all modifications will works properly with my clevo p775dm3-G. So I want to change i7 7700K to 8700K or 9900K. The question is:
    1. Is that possible to use ES version of CPU ? ( engineer sample of 8700k and 9900k) , they are much cheaper than regular version.
    2. Do I need update bios in my Gtx 1070 ?It will be connected with M.2 nvme port with EXP GDC beast ( eGPU), External GPU.
    3. What situation with thermal throttling ( 9900K) ? There will be unmounted internal MXM GTX, so all heat will comes from CPU only.
    4. Is there any FIX for automatically reboot, when AC adapter is connected, and you turn power OFF ?
    Many thanks for all your help !!!
    Adrian
     
    dragon2224, Oct 30, 2020
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    MXM is needed because the EC wants to read it's temp.
    With no MXM, it will shut down in half of minute.
     
    IllusiveMan, Oct 30, 2020
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    Are you serious ?
    I can't believe with that.... Is there any chance to run laptop normally without mxm card ? Maby connect external temp sensor ?
     
    dragon2224, Oct 30, 2020
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    If you can make one which works on the SM Bus then maybe yes.
     
    IllusiveMan, Oct 30, 2020
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    Do you maby know what model of MXM gpu is cheapest one on the market, fitting for p775dm3 , working with coffee lake CPU ? Or maby the easiest way is buying broken one, and remove bios chip ?
     
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    Don't know where to get from except ebay.
    It has to be functional.

    On the other side, egpu via pcie x1 is not a very good option.
     
    IllusiveMan, Oct 30, 2020
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    So, will try to find the cheapest working Nvidia MXM 3.1a card ( will fitting, because it's much shorter then stardard 1060 from clevo 3.1b ), and just disabled it in control panel. Will use M.2 pcie X4 port, instead of one nvme SSD drive. Clevo p775dm3 has 2 of M.2 ports on the board, so speed is only 5-7% worst then full pcie x16 in desktop PC. But need to find working MXM card 3.1 first. Hopefully laptop will recognize it.. ( thermal sensor as well).
     
    dragon2224, Oct 30, 2020
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    There is no much choice of clevo MXM 3.1B, lowest is GTX1060.

    I haven't tried PCIe SSD in any clevo so far just to see if it works, only nvme.
     
    IllusiveMan, Oct 30, 2020
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    Hi maybe u need to take a look at this thread too
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ix-gets-an-8700k-and-gtx-1080-upgrade.814711/
    or/and contact the Boss @Mr. Fox or the Legend in him self Mr @Prema

    try to find a used gtx 9xxm or 8xxm gpus with some bios modification they can work !!!!
     
    Mauserk98, Oct 31, 2020
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    @dsanke can helo me please??

    I flashed my clevo p 775dm3-g with ur bios to upgrade 8th gen suceefully but no sound so when i put my older bios again my laptop make the process and when restart dont turn on again.
    I need to buy a spi programer?
    Someone can help @Everyone
     
    Tibas, Oct 31, 2020
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    SPI programmer is needed.
     
    IllusiveMan, Oct 31, 2020
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    radolf, Nov 1, 2020
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    Yes help me pls u have whatsapp? Say me ur number i use programe and say the size is biiger the chip
     
    Tibas, Nov 1, 2020
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    Why don't you wait until someone helps you instead of spamming the thread? BTW you don't have to unsolder the BIOS in the P775DM3-G.

    Buy this Flasher and all you have to do is clamp the BIOS chip:

    https://www.castroelectronica.pt/en/product/programador-universal-usb-de-ics--minipro

    The chip is this one:

    https://imgur.com/a/L30YyaJ

    (it's directly under the keyboard in the middle of it)

    Before you ask, no I can't help you flash it since a friend help me flash mine because I DON'T own a flasher.

    Hope it helps in anyway.


    Also make sure you don't flash any other chip, besides the BIOS ONE.

    Enviado do meu ASUS_I001DC através do Tapatalk
     
    joluke, Nov 1, 2020
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    Es, portugues?
     
    Tibas, Nov 1, 2020
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