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    P150EM Upgrading from 675M to 680M!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by hackness, Jun 28, 2012.

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    There could be one, I don't think the GTX680M is using all 100W at stock clock.
     
    hackness, Jul 5, 2012
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    NVIDIA System Tools is made by NVIDIA, so I just thought you might have some luck with it.

    It has an artificial clock limit, but it's easy to circumvent.
     
    5482741, Jul 5, 2012
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    Nope, the GTX 680m has much more voltage levels, just as all Kepler cards. For this card from about 0.82 up to ca. 1.04V everything is possible. If you take a look at a GPU-Z log you should see more than four different values.
     
    svl7, Jul 5, 2012
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    Nvidia will have an algorithm to work out current tdp that feeds in all known data.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 5, 2012
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  6. hackness

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    So the max possible voltage is 1.04v in the vbios I uploaded?
     
    hackness, Jul 5, 2012
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    OK I've just done some tests for Core 853MHz, with different Memory clock settings. 2300MHz on mem clock seems best for core clock 853MHz:

    Driver version 304.79

    720/1800 [Bandwidth 115.2GB/s] 69C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6134 3DMarks
    853/1800 [Bandwidth 115.2GB/s] 72C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6932 3DMarks
    853/1900 [Bandwidth 121.6GB/s] 72C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6991 3DMarks
    853/2000 [Bandwidth 128.0GB/s] 72C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7040 3DMarks
    853/2100 [Bandwidth 134.4GB/s] 73C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7077 3DMarks
    853/2200 [Bandwidth 140.8GB/s] 73C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7098 3DMarks
    853/2300 [Bandwidth 147.2GB/s] 73C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7140 3DMarks
    853/2400 [Bandwidth 153.6GB/s] 74C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7153 3DMarks
    853/2500 [Bandwidth 160.0GB/s] 74C: Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7176 3DMarks
     
    hackness, Jul 5, 2012
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    It's got the 2nd most performance increase out of the +100MHz on mem clock :D Well before the performance increase starts to get really tiny.
     
    hackness, Jul 5, 2012
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    do you have any plans on over-volting and upping the core clock?, the temp seems to allow for more of an increase.
     
    vuman619, Jul 5, 2012
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  11. hackness

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    Will eventually try it out :D So far 853MHz on core clock seems to be the maximum clock you can get through software ocing, vbios modding is gonna be the next step.
     
    hackness, Jul 5, 2012
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    So question is, are the new voltages going to work?
     
    widezu69, Jul 6, 2012
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    If performance increases become very small, you have past the point where your OC is safe for long-term use.
     
    Blacky, Jul 6, 2012
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    I actually changed back to 1800MHz on mem, considering it's only 3% increase at +500MHz.

    1 thing what GTX680M does best is downclocking and undervolting the gpu when the gpu usage is below certain %, and there are many different clocks that it down clocks to and the GTX675M and HD7970M don't have this feature, maybe that's why GTX680M runs cooler.
     
    hackness, Jul 6, 2012
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  15. hackness

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    Not sure why it double posted :rolleyes:
     
    hackness, Jul 6, 2012
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    74C on max overclock? With 7300 in GPU score? ROTFL :D
    Thats more than the GTX 580 :D
    About 1000 points more to the GTX 670, but that is to strech it too far I guess?

    [​IMG]
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 6, 2012
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    Try running extreme or games like dirt3 at 1080p and seeing what the bandwidth changes do then ;)

    Unless you bought your 680M to run at 1280x720 that is.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 6, 2012
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  18. hackness

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    Might do this with BF3 ultra, but gonna take a short break for now lol.
     
    hackness, Jul 6, 2012
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    You have done enough to satisfy most of us I`m shure. Lots of new members will recieve the 680M soon so they can take the next lap :)
    I`m still a bit disappointed that we don`t have different 7970M vs 680M review than notebookcheck though since I feel they didn`t tell the truth.

    Oh well, atleast we know that 680M runs veeery cool plus it overclock like a champ. Temperature was my main concern, so now I`m happy.

    We also know that this game can play all games in max settings. Good times ahead. You enjoy your new GPU and game on hackness :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 6, 2012
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    Hackness: What do you use heat sink ?
    gtx675m is compatible with gtx680m ?
     
    CzarnyMax, Jul 6, 2012
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    edit: nvm, i found it elsewhere
     
    Kevin, Jul 6, 2012
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    GTX675M heatsink is 100% compatible, same PCB, 2 more smaller chips on the rightside but the heatsink covers those 2 too.

    Next one I'll do should be skyrim :D. Being the 2nd guy that posts actual benchmark result in the forum has a lot to do :D. It's pretty cool. Well I finished Metro 2033 last night on the GTX680M on Dx11, FXAA, AAA, High setting, chapter 5 to 7, 853/2300 for roughly 5 hours and max temp 77C.

    [​IMG]
     
    hackness, Jul 6, 2012
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    Hi, everybody!
    I have a question! I ordered 2 680 for m17xr2, whether my radiator from 5870 for 680 will approach?
    I thank for the answer!
     
    neklec, Jul 6, 2012
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  24. hackness

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    Dell version of the 680M?
     
    hackness, Jul 6, 2012
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    I buy 680 at upgradeyourlaptop.
     
    neklec, Jul 6, 2012
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    :notworthy:

    Thank you, man! :D
     
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    No specific scene/place in particular (it's a large game, after all), but if you do get the chance, anything with a large amount of characters on scene would be great, like in one of the civil war quests.

    Oh, and I would completely appreciate it if you could also install Skyrim HD:
    Skyrim HD - 2K Textures at Skyrim Nexus - Skyrim mods and community
    on top of the game's high resolution texture pack:
    The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on Steam

    That would be just perfect.

    And since I'll probably not OC my 680M, can you also check all that with factory clocks as well?

    If it's too much to ask (I might be coming greedy, here ;) ), a standard check would suffice just as well and would be great.

    Thank you very much!
     
    amirfoox, Jul 6, 2012
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    I previously bought from upgradeyourlaptop Clevo gtx580m to m17xR3 :D
    I use the heat sink from hd6990m :)
    Let me know if the installation was held PlugPlay :D
     
    CzarnyMax, Jul 6, 2012
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    That doesn't sound right. 580M and 680M are different. Kepler is not the same architecture as the 580M. That would be like me flashing a 6970M vBios on my HD7970M.
     
    Zymphad, Jul 6, 2012
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    no! clear that it sounds bad.

    I speak only for compatibility Clevo cards in Alienach.
    It is known Clevo gtx680M card will need to write it gtx680 Dell vbios
     
    CzarnyMax, Jul 6, 2012
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    Very impressive. One can safely assume that the max overclock is stable and pretty cool. Metro test your GPU to the limit. :)

    I bet Nvidia could have pushed the 680M clock up a bit before releasing it

    BTW: What FPS did you get with this overclock?
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 6, 2012
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    It was only Dx11/high setting 40~60fps between chapter 5 and 7.
     
    hackness, Jul 6, 2012
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    I commend you for doing this yourself.
     
    hgfed, Jul 6, 2012
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    Any chance you know enough about any of the CAD programs to test them out!? (Solidworks, Autodesk, ProE, any of the more advanced ones). Please!? Pretty please?! :)
     
    MKEGuy, Jul 6, 2012
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    hulawafu77,

    I think the language barrier was reason for the confusion.

    I believe what he meant was:
    Bought a Clevo gtx 580m from upgradeyourlaoptop
    Installed the Clevo gtx 580m in his Alienware M17xR3
    Physically compatible but had to flash the Dell/Alienware gtx 580m vbios to the Clevo gtx 580m card.


    Monnie
     
    MonnieRock, Jul 6, 2012
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    If you want CAD performance, get an 7970m. GPGPU is crippled in the gaming Kepler cards. Seen a desktop Kepler vs GCN benchmark recently which was about CAD performance, the Kepler got slaughtered.
     
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    Just saw this thread. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing!
     
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    Exactly, thanks for the correction :)
     
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    @amirfoox

    Download is still going on via steam for skyrim, will test it out once it finishes.

    Special thanks to svl7 for modding the vbios. New clock setting 900/2500 was made possible. We didn't manage to enable the boost clock, an entry was missing in the GTX 680M vbios.

    Anyway, tested 3DMark11 against it and it managed to max out the memory controller even at 2500MHz:

    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7276 3DMarks

    [​IMG]

    Graphic score 7452

    I'll need to tweak the Mem clock a bit higher, or under clock the Core clock a bit, the memory controller is maxed out and is bottlenecking.
     
    hackness, Jul 7, 2012
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    looks real good!
    can you run vantage now that you have a higher over clock? thanks.
     
    Johnksss, Jul 7, 2012
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    may be it's throttling? try vanatge with 2000Mhz memory for instance..
     
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    Very impressive scores :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 7, 2012
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    hackness, Jul 7, 2012
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    The VBIOS isn't at the limit, I'm not sure what's causing this. Might be not enough voltage.

    Keep in mind that even though the card does not have boost clocks as the other Kepler cards, some of the code is there in the BIOS, and it seems to behave like this when overclocking. This means the clock you set is actually only the maximum, it doesn't mean it's gonna reach it. At least that's how it seems when I look at the core clock in the logs.

    Still, I expected it to go a bit higher. Maybe I can somehow optimize it a bit more.
     
    svl7, Jul 7, 2012
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    Hackness can you tell me your idle temperatures for gpu and cpu? thanks
     
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    It seems that way too, by optimizing you mean is deleting those codes?

    GPU is around 41C if gpu isn't turned off. CPU around 46.

    ok 915/2000 on 3DMark11, mem clock is definately the bottleneck.

    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7098 3DMarks

    [​IMG]
     
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