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    PCmicroworks buyers lounge "Edge" laptop

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by eleron911, May 28, 2008.

  1. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    ...well, when you consider what a great deal pcmicroworks gives its customers--I understand that they are now actually paying you to take a laptop from them--you should just be patient.
     
  2. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    It'll be shipping on Thursday or Friday. Hold tight.

    The delays have always been met with compensation in some form or fashion, I can't complain. But they have the systems, final burn ins are taking place, and after that they will be ready to go. :)
     
  3. lordvader

    lordvader Notebook Evangelist

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    Can someone post a video
    of there Quad core laptop

    on youtube would like to se how it works
     
  4. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's only a great deal if you receive the product.
    I am patient, but that only goes so far before I start getting worried, ESPECIALLY when I have to call them for updates instead of them calling, or even emailing, me with updates.

    A simple email once or twice a week of, "hey, we know you want your laptop and we're doing our best", would have sufficed.

    What it really makes me think is that one or more of the following is occurring:
    1. They took too many pre-orders to be able to fulfill them all
    2. They made promises they couldn't keep (wasn't everyone wondering how they could get these components before everyone else?)
    3. They are using my money to purchase someone else's components and, in turn, using someone else's money to purchase mine - i.e., the "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" effect.

    I don't know who PcMicroworks are, I don't know any of them personally, and I don't know if they are honest, dishonest or somewhere in between. All I know at this point is that my order is 3 weeks overdue and, frankly at this point, someone should be calling me to explain, HONESTLY, why.
    Avoidance makes them look scrupulous.


     
  5. NCG1589

    NCG1589 Notebook Consultant

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    I wouldnt be worrying just yet. Even sager isnt quite shipping large volumes. The first wave is just beginning. If you dont have it shipped by mid-week next week, then maybe you should start to worry.
     
  6. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    OUCH man. 10 chars.
     
  7. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    don't worry bro. I called them and shipping is starting late this week to early next week. I ordered memorial day weekend with some others and apparently we are the first in line - so dont fret if you don't get it so soon. You probably got a sick deal. It's worth it!
     
  8. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    Were they not supposed to ship it like... three months ago? :D
    Sorry, couldn't help making the easy joke...
     
  9. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    That's ok man. We've been compensated well enough to be alright with jokes here and there. :)
     
  10. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    a)Stop necroposting;

    b)PCMW lied about the shipping date to take your money. Shady or not that's for you to decide but just remember that the very first M860TU was received last Friday;

    so,
    c)your order is not "overdue". Mine hasn't even begun to be built yet and I ordered it over a month ago.
     
  11. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    A) I got laptop in my sig for 1650.
    B) I got laptop in my sig for 1650.
    C) I got laptop in my sig for 1650.

    I think that just about covers it...lol. You'd also crap your pants if you knew the deals some other forum members got from PCMW.
     
  12. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm not too clear on what you mean by "compensated" - I've yet to see anything like that.

     
  13. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can you enlighten me as to how?
    When did you order it?
    When did you receive it?

    Sorry if you've covered this in this thread, it's difficult to read through 35 pages of posts :)


     
  14. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    Alright i'm gonna say it again for the umpteenth time.

    I pre ordered my laptop for 2200 initially at the president's day sale. Then they grew late on their shipments so they decided to give people concessions like FREE PARTS. So I got a few free parts which brought the number down drastically to 1800 or so. Then a few people on this forum started badmouthing PCMW. Guess what happened? As a form of goodwill they dropped everyone's prices. Some resellers on these forums said "do not buy from there. Our prices will be better!" and "they are just pulling prices out of thin air with no basis of comparison." They just wanted you to buy from THEM when this laptop came out. What a joke.

    Here's the kicker. I pm'd Justin at xotic and asked him to price match my unit. He said "their service is not like ours so we won't pricematch". LOL. Way to get out of your policy there brother.

    So. Nobody wants to touch the prices PCMW gave and frankly, we who ordered from them have everyone on here to thank for these great prices. Thank you power/xotic you lined my pockets well! :)

    edit: /end of defense. I agree with Deathwinger here.
     
  15. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Sigh...I'm stopping right here. I'm feeling too much sour grapes being passed around. Listen, I'll stop talking about this for now, and the next time I post on it will be when I do a review on my system. (and yes, it will be before 2009, lol) :)

    I can't say the same for DRTH_STI, he's gotten an incredible deal and knows what he is getting into. Which I find commendable considering the reactions of everyone who trusted the resellers of the np8660 to turn almost 180 when just ONE system was in question.

    Ah well, such is life.

    DRTH, you have my blessings to continue defending, but I think they're just going to get more angry. Not good for the blood pressure I've heard.
     
  16. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    I think PCMW just wanted to use you as an advertisement, look at their website the base price start at $2200, no one should price match what is not publicized, and the only published price on PCWM website was about $2200, tell Justin to price match that then everyone will need to pay $400 dollars extra. DRTH_STi is just lucky for being used. PCWM can lower people's price is because they only have to do it on a few people who have ordered from them, and they are making you guys as human advertisements. Though I would still say that you guys are lucky, though I can't say if you are lucky or not for sure until you get your laptop, implying that I am not sure if your laptop will work properly after all the modifications they have done.
     
  17. NCG1589

    NCG1589 Notebook Consultant

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    Im willing to venture a guess that the good deals are a result of those inflated prices. If one person pays 2600, then they can sell it to another for 1600 and still turn a profit as a whole. Rather than being set in price, they can be more like a car dealership. So they probably arent doing anything wrong IMO. Although i do understand not price matching seeing as how you arent buying the EXACT same laptop, seeing as how it isnt Sager branded. Which does make a difference in a sense.
     
  18. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Everyone selling something trying to make a profit otherwise they wouldn't be selling... Think about all the people, all the equipments and all the insurances and taxes they have to pay, of course they ganna charge you a lot more to keep the business running.
     
  19. SuperNova1

    SuperNova1 Notebook Consultant

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    let's wait till you actually received it from PCMW gentlemen.
     
  20. Heliosvector

    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    what happened to "the chassis are being held up in customs and will be in to us within the week. We hope to have them shipped out within 10 days."
    that was about 2 months ago.
     
  21. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's interesting, it was the story I was given last week.
    So, now back to my other post. Are we getting jacked around here?


     
  22. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the info - and sorry for making you restate it :)

     
  23. Heliosvector

    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    I ordered from them and was told 4 times this, so i canceled and ordered closer to home.
    I wont say anymore comments to make pcmw perish. It can do that on its own without any help.

    seriously though, im going to get flamed in a minute.
     
  24. steveoccc

    steveoccc Notebook Geek

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    At last, a post with common sense!
     
  25. Heliosvector

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    i second that
     
  26. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    Flamed for what? Pointing out the obvious that what they're doing is less than honest?



     
  27. Heliosvector

    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    its just that i did this before and i was met with people saying "oooo your just jealous that i got a better deal than you" and could not comprehend that i got the same deal as them but saw through their lies and went elsewhere.

    I mean, im even the one that started this thread (the system glitched though and deleted the first 14 pages wich left eleron as the first post= owner.)
     
  28. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well...as I suspected - I called again a few minutes ago to find out why it hasn't shipped and today's excuse is that the WUXGA+ screens aren't ready yet.
    I spoke with Erick at 1-888-59-MICRO (64276) and he offered to upgrade my CPU at no cost to an X9100 (3.06GHz/1066MHz/6MB).
    My original order had a Intel® Core™2 Duo T9600 (2.8GHz/45nm/1066Mhz/6MB)
    I told him that I was still unhappy, but would wait...mostly because I have no choice.

    I noticed that my original CPU is no longer offered on their website so I have to question whether this was a peace offering or just something they had to do since they don't seem to have any T9600's. I also question it because it seems odd that a salesperson who answers the phone isn't usually given the authority to just upgrade someone for free without first obtaining some type of authorization. Whatever the case, I'll take it, of course...just seems kind of fishy.

    Erick told me they should have my system ready by next Thursday or Monday (9/1) at the latest. I told him I didn't believe him.


     
  29. Heliosvector

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    these guys are such perfect scam artists.
     
  30. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    The WUXGA story is actually true though.

    I don't think any of the OEM's have received them. Sager certainly hasn't.
     
  32. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    I think this thread should be merged with the m860tu owners lounge
     
  33. cdukes

    cdukes Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not until now...
    So I guess my instinct is correct. It really does look like they aren't a legitimate company.
    I'm going to call and request a refund today.
    I've also taken the liberty of opening a case against them through the BBB in California.

     
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    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Hmm, not sure where you are getting your information, but Sager does have the WUXGA in stock and should begin shipping them next Monday the 25th.
     
  35. someguyoverthere

    someguyoverthere Notebook Evangelist

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    PCMW isn't offering the M860tu as a Sager. Its their custom build...if they can fit the processor in the case and prevent it from catching fire (during warranty period...) then I guess they can offer it, no matter how dubious it is.


    I've been following this saga at a distance for some time now. Yes, PCMW offered some huge discounts to those that bought early during those sales, but the fact that the current price now exceeds what everyone else is selling it for leads me to agree that they're just using people to advertise for them. The strategy doesn't seem all that sound, since the targets of the advertisements can't get the same deal that the advertisers got.

    This argument will keep on going and going until people start getting (and testing) their M860s from PCMW.
     
  36. cdukes

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    I just called and spoke to Johnathon in customer service who offered to credit my account with a full refund but continue to keep the order in the system. He said that someone would notify me when it was ready "next week" and that I would then have the option to pay for the order at that time. I agreed to accept those terms.

    ...We'll see :)

     
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    @someguyoverthere

    Notice the statement: "Sager has confirmed with Clevo that the M860TU will not support 44W+ processors or the 9800M GTX because of the thermal budget!"

    This is not a Sager thing, it is a Clevo thing. Clevo does not certify their M860TU for use with either component, so anyone building it with either one has voided their Clevo warranty, which means any buyer only has their "custom" builder to look to for warranty on a build that is already known to exceed the thermal budget of that model.
     
  38. someguyoverthere

    someguyoverthere Notebook Evangelist

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    So...this is another example of PCMW blatantly talking out of their ***?
     
  39. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Wait what? When did they arrive?

    Why hasn't my status been updated then? =(


    Someguyoverthere: PCMW may well try to stick a 44W+ processor in there and close shop before one can return it for servicing because something melted. So in that sense, they're not talking out of their hats, because they may actually try and do it.

    It does sound like a very stupid plan though.
     
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  40. Heliosvector

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    so if they do it, but dont want to fix it...... theres no other way of putting it. your scr***d
     
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  41. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Are they allowed to say they don't want to fix it if they offer a 1-year standard parts and labor warranty?
     
  42. someguyoverthere

    someguyoverthere Notebook Evangelist

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    I think his point was that if they no longer exist then they don't have to say anything, no matter what warranty someone buys from them.
     
  43. EdgeEnthusiast

    EdgeEnthusiast Notebook Enthusiast

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    So has anyone received their long awaited Edge yet??
     
  44. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    I have, temps are perfect, accessories are great. I'm loving it :D

    So did another member Teebo, and DHTI will get his on Monday.
     
  45. EdgeEnthusiast

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    Great, I'm still waiting... been more than two months now and was beginning to get concerned, But am looking forward to receiving mine on Tuesday! YAY!

    After a month of frustrating angry conversations with the sales teams from Alienware trying really hard to order a M15X I finally gave up and placed my order for an edge instead, NOTHING MAKES ME HAPPIER to see light at the end of the tunnel... Yay!
     
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    I just configured an edge and it came out to about 1000 dollars more than a sager with the same config :confused:
     
  47. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    That's because PCMW lost so much with deathwinger's laptop they have to make it up by overcharging you....
     
  48. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Lol, good one.

    They should have a new slogan though,

    With PCMW, we can guarantee your Edge laptop does not burn off your wrists or palms like the competition, just your wallet instead. :D
     
  49. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    That's pretty funny, too!

    (ps--I'm glad you got your beast)
     
  50. cdukes

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    Not yet...but...
    They called me on Thursday and said they would try to ship it to me Friday for a Saturday delivery. I don't think they got it out on time so I'm *supposed* to get it Tuesday (since Monday is a holiday.


     
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