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    PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. onkelosuppo

    onkelosuppo Notebook Consultant

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    You're shure this isn't a fake? ;P
    I am still hesitating, as my machine runs brilliant now. Will sticking with Premamod 1.3 but installing ME update result in the same benefits? Or will it only work with BIOS 04? Prema just said, it would be possible.
     
  2. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    No it's not fake! The reason the battery health is not there in HWmonitor is because the repair center sent back my W110er without the battery, maybe that is why it's so low? It was always around 11-12 W before on the old bios and idling at high 50's.

    I'm also using the IME 8.1.0.1281 from station-drivers.com
     
  3. landsome

    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Here it is. With bios 1.4 UV, latest ME, drivers pointed to by Prema. ~8*C lower temps in idle for CPU and Intel PCH
     

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    Question. How can change the boot screen back to Sager's? I prefer that one.
     
  5. HTWingNut

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    You can't unless you edit the BIOS file yourself. I don't know why everyone is so bent on the boot screen. Just turn it off if you don't care for it. There's an option in the BIOS. I'm sure he'd be glad to do custom boot screens for a fee. ;)
     
  6. MEEKZ

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    lol I probably will. Im picky like that. Thanx
     
  7. guily6669

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    Hummm, and how can you be so sure the temp decrease is real?

    Does anyone have a laser thermal sensor that could test the true temperatures?


    Have seen lot's of pc's that after updating something, it just reported a few Cº less or more, but was just a software improvement on the thermal software detection, and not real decrease\increase of the real temps


    And I have a question:

    What if I have 1.03 official clevo and put 1.03 prema's verion, will that also break it? (and can we go back from 1.03 prema to 1.03 official)?
    Keep Cool
     
  8. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    They downclocked the HD4000 on idle so it lowers the temps...
    You can go from 03 to PM v1.3 and back no problem.
     
  9. dvdpt

    dvdpt Notebook Guru

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    Thanks folks.
    It seems steberg cpu is using quite less power on "ia-cores" than my i7-3610qm. I believe the minimum I could get was ~2.7w on it but I am going to reboot and disable most programs to make sure the cpu utilization is the lowest possible.

    It seems it also lowered ia-cores quite a bit, but to be sure a w110er user without ME update could post a screenshot. I am also going to test my w150er but it isn't a "correct" comparison ;)

    edit: and it seems my theory was wrong...after disabling every program and anti-virus running on background I also can get lower cpu power consumption:
    [​IMG]
    It was worth the shot ;)
     

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  10. guily6669

    guily6669 Notebook Consultant

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    THANK YOU SO MUCH!:thumbsup:

    We can't go back, but at least can change from prema to official on same version as much as we want. GOOD TO KNOW, that will really make me use urs, because I know I can always go back to the same version but the official one.


    And thank you about the explanation on the ME (never seen that kind of firmware updates for any laptop\desktop I have seen in real life), only been updating the intel management drivers on my desktop, but Asus didn't provided ME firmware update, only normal bios updates :mad:.


    ps: You should have got a lot more REP :thumbsup:.
    Keep Cool
     
  11. garygao12345

    garygao12345 Notebook Enthusiast

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    this new bio update kicks ! after doing the bios update and figuring out how to update the ME, it's all working now. I'm getting past 4.5hr battery life with a mixed of light web browsing and youtube and music, not all at once all the time though. but that's still over an hour of battery life improvement.

    I'm using the prema 1.4uv edition. has anyone compared the stock 1.4 with 1.4uv to see the battery life difference?

    THANK YOU! :)
     
  12. magic_man

    magic_man Notebook Enthusiast

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    I update my ME bios, but when I try to install the drivers I get the following: "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software"
     
  13. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    With Nvidia Drivers 306.02, I don't get the lower GPU temperature benefits and it idles at around 58-60C, with the 304.79 Drivers, it idles as low as 45-50C.
     
  14. MEEKZ

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    For the ME update to we do it in the same manner as the BIOS and flash it?
     
  15. Studie

    Studie Notebook Consultant

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    Yup, RUFUS on MS-DOS fat32.
     
  16. MEEKZ

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    Great. Thank you.
     
  17. HiGGz

    HiGGz Notebook Enthusiast

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    u have to run MeSet.EXE before flashing flashme.bat

    but well don't see much difference between ME flahsed and not. (with intel IME drivers 8.1.0.1263)
     
  18. onkelosuppo

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    Check the default Optimus settings with 306.02. Accidently nVidia put the nVidia card on always on. Just set it to auto.
    My GPU idles at 40°C using Premamod 1.3 UV and the 306.02
     
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    I don't see any Optimus settings in the Nvidia Control Panel for 306.02 though. How do you change this?
     
  20. HTWingNut

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    What 650m voltage should the UV be? Mine is running at 1.000V. Also, I installed the 8.1.0.1265_5M Intel ME driver instead of the 8.0.10.1464. Should it matter?
     
  21. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    So Intel ME updates are included in the Prema BIOS? I installed the latest ME package on Win7.
     
  22. Studie

    Studie Notebook Consultant

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    Yup, do the updates and you technically SHOULD see a 10 degree difference. Since the intel 4000 is down-clocked from what Prema has mentioned in this thread.

    Prema 1.4 and the ME update is a must do for our laptops. I have been running it intensively and the temperatures are great, I don't have the open the rear panel when playing Battlefield 3.
     
  23. onkelosuppo

    onkelosuppo Notebook Consultant

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    WulffM Notebook Consultant

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    Is there a way to get a step by step guide to where to get this ME firmware update for my clevo W150ER and how to update this firmware? i looked on the net but get overwhelmed with all this info. So if there is someone willing to provide me with a download location on where to get this firmware update and how to flash it i would be super grateful. Thanx in advance
     
  25. HTWingNut

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    Everything can be found at Prema's mod website: BIOSMODS.WORDPRESS.COM

    And all downloads are at the bottom of the page of the respective laptop's page. I think only the W110ER has an ME update available so far.

    But basically:

    - download and install BIOS mod (UV version will run the GPU undervolted for a cooler machine)
    - download and install the ME update
    - download and install the Intel Management Engine (ME) driver

    The BIOS should be installed from a pure DOS environment, off a bootable USB key works best.
     
  26. WulffM

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    aha, ok ok, thanx for clearing that up then.

    So in HWinfo it say for my ME v8.0 build 1441 hotfix 4 wouldnt this w110 update be ok for my ME as well? or is it really specific for the w110 only? since my w150ER also has the ME 8.0 only an older build
     
  27. HTWingNut

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    Best to ask Prema, but I'm sure he'll chime in here as soon as he can.
     
  28. WulffM

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    thanx a lot HTWingnut, will wait for prema to reply to this
     
  29. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    My W110ER has ME v8.0 build 1464 hotfix 10 after the ME update according to HWInfo.
     
  30. WulffM

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    yes thats right, but i have a w150ERM instead of a w110ER so thats why i asked if i can use the same ME update for my W150ERM as well, instead of your W110ER. They do have the same chipset and all i think. but just to make sure i dont do anything i shouldnt do to brick anything i want to make sure about it before i try anything
     
  31. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Intel Management Engine updated to v8.0.10.1464 for:

    W110ER/NP6110
    W150ERx/NP6165
    W170ER/NP6175

    Links on the blog!
    W110ER users don't have to re-do the update, if they had already done the earlier update.
     
  32. landsome

    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Prema, could you please, at some future point / bios version, reintroduce the hdd pw option in your next UV edition? (As far as I can tell it is absent in 1.4.)
     
  33. WulffM

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    Thanx a lot prema! love ya!
     
  34. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It's there as before. You need to set a system password first and then do a full shutdown. After that you can set a HDD password, too.

    I am glad you are happy guys. :)

    P.S.: I am travelling again, so help each other! :thumbsup:
     
  35. MEEKZ

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    where on HWinfo does it tell u the ME build installed? cant find it. :(
     
  36. WulffM

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    One more question, Sorry feel like a complete noob here now :S I succesfully flashed the ME now, all went well with the instructions you provided, but now when i want to install the matching MEI_allOS_1.5M_8.0.10.1464 driver but then say : (translated from dutch) this computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software. Any idea why this is then?
     
  37. steberg

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    In main window HWInfo, expand Motherboard, then expand SMBIOS DMI, then check the Intel vPro at the near bottom of the list. There is the ME firmware version.
     
  38. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Maybe update the Intel Chipset driver first?
     
  39. WulffM

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    will try that now
     
  40. landsome

    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks. What will we do without you?!?!
     
  41. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Also the system needs a full shutdown after the ME update to reflect in windows. ;)
     
  42. WulffM

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    I already had the latest chipset drivers installed, but installing win7 again now and see if it will work then. I saw it did install the thermal driver orso for my chipset but not thru the normal setup, that 1 wont run cause my pc does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software :) hopefully a fresh install will solve it, but not sure about that

    And i did turn the pc off after the ME update yes

    EDIT:
    After a fresh install of windows 7 i still have the same problem when wanting to install the management engine driver, weird cause updating the ME firmware went well and all so why wouldnt it want to install the matching ME driver then? i also tried several other version of the MEI but all say the same now, while before the ME firmware flash i did it installed fine
    Last question:
    If i cant get the driver to install is there some way to get the original ME firmware for the W150ERQ so i can revert to using that one?
     
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    Log:
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    PDR Region does not exist.
    GBE Region does not exist.

    Read/Erase/Programming stuff

    FPT Operation passed.
    -------



    Was the ME Flash successful by this context?

    I was not able to find my version in HWInfo using a previously posted Symbios collapse intel vPro etc steps.

    I Do not see ME options in F2 BIOS.

    I've installed the 10 1464 IMEI drivers before I flashed it, but should it still be saying that I dont meet the requirements when I try to reinstall?
     
  44. WulffM

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    perhaps we need the driver to be installed for that, but thats my problem it wont install anymore after this update
     
  45. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    YES, A successful flash looks like this:

    http://i.imgur.com/Kv8Tf.jpg

    I remember having the driver install problem at one point...don't know what triggered it...will travel the whole day tomorrow and look into it afterwards. I also have an older version of the W1x0ERx ME, just in case... ;)

    The BIOS never shows the ME. HWinfo64 shows it again after a full shutdown. Otherwise re-install HWinfo...

    EDIT: Will provide another ME update with a different and more reliable flashing method in a day...just hold off for now...THX ;)
     
  46. WulffM

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    Thanx a lot again Prema! I will leave it for now as it is now without the driver and will wait if you can either figure out why it wont install the driver or provide me with the original ME firmware so i can try and see if that removes the error that the MEI driver gives me now
     
  47. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    OK, THX to a friend ME update v8. 1.0.1248 with matching driver now on the blog.

    This is never version with improved flashing method, which should create less driver hassle.

    ENJOY! :)


    P.S.: Just saw 8-12W power consumption on my system... :D
     
  48. MEEKZ

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    how do we update? there wasn't a read me file.
     
  49. Heineker

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    Hello again, thread. Still can't flash my laptop. Here's what i get in the process. DSCN0208.jpg Laptop hangs, stays like that for unlimmited time (for a night at least), the led indiactor on the flashstick stops blinking, And it is only possible way to get the NB back online is to manually shut it down. No harm cause, hopefully, 'cause I belive flashing even doesn't start. Oh, yeah, and there's a run-time error indicating something during the update which you can see in the screenshot. That's a very interesting situation because my friend could update the bios of his W150ER with your mod, Prema. Any ideas?
     
  50. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Just copy everything to your dos usb stick, boot from it and run the flashme.bat

    Redownload the files and/or try another usb stick?!
     
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