PREMA BIOS MOD Review

EDIT: Silly me can't think straight...I'll send you the dump and you can clean it and remove the serial number.

 

Here you go steberg!

https://mega.co.nz/#!oB1EQQDQ!Be3HUC3V9FIl_XASsKDY2UKuxPcbrzvHVmPu_tXFGCE

 

Thank you Prema & Forsaked, much appreciated!
Now I have to learn how to remove the serial number in thaiphoon burner. +rep

 

Go to "edit" > "product details" an overwrite the serial with all zeros.

 

9905428-048.a00lf that is the exact same one I have and I am still having trouble with the rams not overclocking

 

Excellent, thank you!

 

Hey Prema, I updated the BIOS in my w170er to 2.1 OV with the w150erx bios. used the W150ER_16_07_PMv2.1_1920x1080_OV_VGA file

Question, I'm trying to find the options to regulate heat and power consumption. The GPU is at 835mhz at 1.1xxxx volts but I can't find where to change the OV or undervolting options.

I was also wondering if it is possible for the fan to automatically toggle at 60C instead of 70C?

thanks Prema.

 

For that model fan profiles will change in the next version. dGPU voltage is fixed, so either stock voltage or overvolt in the case of W1x0ER.

 

Ohh ok. Thanks Prema. I think I'm going to go with the regular 2.1 because the OV seems to increase temps higher than I'm comfortable with

 

You could always to a repaste if you think they are higher than every one else.

 

My GPU hovers at ~65C, with this OV it was over 70C and I had the fan on full while playing FC3 Blood Dragon

 

That's no where near the danger zone, 80s is considered high. Avoid going above mid 80s.

 

Yeah, the CPU was also over 80C before I toggled the fan. Man, having a laptop and being conscious about heat is starting to give me headaches lol. Another thing is that the fan doesn't toggle by itself until 70C, if it did so at 60C, it would only rotate slow, not loud enough to hear, and avoid getting to those higher temps by itself.

 

Yeah, thermals are your primary concern with notebook overclocking lol.

 

Yep, I'm trying to get rid of my w170er to finish building my desktop or to get something that's not in a plastic chassis. I was looking at those Samsung Chronos with the same specs as mine that have an aluminum chassis, so that'd allow for better heat dissipation.

I love this thing though.

 

Unless the cooling is hooked up the casing it wont mean much.

The heatsink design is the primary concern and is much more impressive on the P150SM for instance.

 

I was running my 650M on 1.225v and it was not even reaching 85c while benching and I would call the paste job as "just present", as I removed the heatsink and put it back on like 30 times without re-doing the paste-job.

 

I just did a proper paste-job on my W110ER, and did the foil mod as well. Went from 97C to 87C with Cinebench 11.5 64 bit CPU test. I used Gelid Extreme, heard only good things about Gelid.

 

Hmm, you're actually 100% right. I forgot about the design of the heatsinks on the P series. They are pretty impressive. The new Razer Blade is using a similar design. Maybe I should get a new P150xx. Plus I love those steelseries keyboards.

Yeah the thermal paste doesn't change much because the fan toggles at 70C anyway. It just helps the fan do a little less work maybe/

Elaborate on this please?

 

just a quick question , i'm currently at 970/2600 and my GPU temps are at 93 degrees , should i be worried ? thx for a reply

 

That's not good at all. You can be damaging the components of your motherboard and the GPU itself will fry if you go a bit higher. Remember, for every 10 degrees that you put on your components, life expectancy cuts by half. This is specially true for laptop components.

If your GPU is at 93 I can't imagine what your CPU is churning at

 

but 93 degrees is at full load , while idle its 56 , i'm using prema's 2.1 OV mod , should i be worried ? ( CPu at full load is also at 90 , while in idles at 50-60 ish

 

@ W11 user, what GT650M core speed are you able to run comfortably on UV Mod?

 

I think you might have some bad thermal paste on your system.

My GPU at full load is always below 75, below 85 OCd with OV mod. Idles at 55ish
My CPU at full load is always below 85, at least always below 90. Idles at 70ish

You shouldn't be worried about the CPU as much as the GPU at full load like that, but a fresh application of good thermal paste might help your thermals.

 

Core Clock: 1037mhz
Memory: 1015mhz
I can go higher but as the temp rises, the voltage drops and causes artifacts. I have had this overclocked ever since the UV bios was released and use the GPU a lot for rendering and games. No problems here

 

Installed the UV 1.5 mod to do the testing. I'm running +100 core and +100 mem with no problems at all. No artifacts, it hovers around 67C in GPU temp. I did not try higher clocks. Very happy with the results, will stay on UV mod from now on.

 

Hi again , finally i did repaste the thermal ( finally realized that less is more ) , now the gpu is under 90 but the cpu gets to over 90 or more

my current clocks are 1050 for core and 1350 for the memory clock while temps are being at a max 87 degrees after 15 minutes tests with furmark , 85 degrees after playing far cry 3 an hour , i am currently using the Prema Mod 2.1 OV edition , which says that the voltage is increased to 1.1~ish V ( i dont know, but is this safe ? )

i just hope that other members in the forum could share their opinion regarding my situation

 

For an OC of 1050 you don't need the OV Edition!

A small side note:

"NEVER USE FURMARK, IT WILL DESTROY YOUR GPU!"

 

alright then i shall be making changes into the basic 2.1 mod since i'm concerned with the longetivity life of my laptop

if i wanted to change to the basic one i just have to flash it like usual right ?

 

Lol yeah, I never understood people's obsession with Furmark, it destroys your stuff and does a really poor job of demonstrating stability

 

Correct, just flash ahead & ENJOY!

 

Yep, try to use 3dmark 11 in the basic edition if you have to if you want to try for stability. If your clock is't stable you'll just BSOD in the first few frames of the first test.

Like I said, my temps are ~75gpu on load and ~85cpu on load. Be careful. Are you OC your CPU as well?

 

Hi! I've been using this prema mod andi I've seen some improvements but I'd like to ask for the method to update the ME_FW since (if I am not mistaken) there are a lot of new versions and I don't know how this would affect the performance of the pc

 

Just run MeTool in Windows.

 

Hi Prema

Thanks for the answer and once again congrats on the awesome job

I already did that but if I'm not mistaken... that is not the latest version of ME right? Arent those the ones that are at the moment at version 9.x ?

 

v9.x is only for Haswell and will brick everything else.

BTW: I need a tester right now for something on W150ER. Would be great if you could help.I sent you a PM

 

@Prema, is it the new vbios for GT650M in your V3.0 prema mod?

 

No! Clevo changed the vRAM chips on newer W110ER and they run really bad with that vBIOS, while the old chips run outstanding...so I still haven't decided what to do...

BTW: All Prema Mods Updated on the blog!

ENJOY!

 

Ok, thanks, I might wait for the 1.6 mod though...

 

Hi there prema, i just flashed the new OV edition and i saw lot of new settings in the bios , including a sata option that mentioned raid now for my w150er, does that mean i now can use raid on this machine? the setting that has always been there still mentions IDE and AHCI and no raid so was wondering about that. also with this new OV edition my fans keep spinning quite high cause my cpu stays around 70 degrees. will try the non ov editiona s well

*EDIT* must be some setting i changed that cause that higher temps, just reset to setup defaults and now its good. will try and find wich setting does this But damn does this mod look amazing again!!!

just send you 10E again for this amazing work

 

Arg, my bad, I thought I had disabled the Sata stuff for the W1x0ER...sorry no RAID, will fix it up within the hour...it was just left from testing and I forgot to take it out...

 

ah ok, well no problem ofcourse thought it would be a bit strange that for a chipset that has no raid enabled it would be possible all of a sudden but hey you never know with your magic and all haha.

Thanx again for everything

 

Did more testing last night and was still getting the same results. I have more time now so anything you want to send me to test feel free. On the 650m UV Bios I can OC memory to 1050mhz what are people with older W110er's getting?

 

I can get 1100 on normal vBIOS and 1200 on 740M test version. (first batch W11)

BTW: W150ER & W170ER versions fixed and up on the blog.

 

I'll see how high I can push it on the standard voltage bios too see if the newer models have degraded RAM performance.

Its a shame the 740m Vbios isn't working out.
What sort of performance increases are you noticing at 1080p?

I'm using benchmarks on Sleeping Dogs, Resident Evil and Hitman.

 

TODAY: Updated 42 Prema Mod versions for all the 12 currently supported Clevo Models, here the changelogs:



P-EM Series / Sager NP9-Series (ALL Models):

Spoiler

- Fixed SATA RAID boot delay (this time for good)
- Sata RAID updated to v12.7.0.1936 (Legacy & UEFI)
- Added NON Win8 Mode UEFI BOOT support (For dual boot & Linux systems)
- Added Trusted Computing Menu for P370EMx (only on supported boards)
- Realtek PCIe oROM updated to v2.55
- Intel ME Firmware updated to custom v8.1.40.1416
- Intel HD oROM updated to modded v2158
(fixed: HDMI Audio, ext. Dispaly detection, brightness control)
- Various CPU Microcodes added & updated
- Alternative Keyboard Layout Version (K1)
- New Prema Mod style
- XTU Support now for all P-EM-Series Models:
* CPU Overclocking (3720QM+)
* iGPU Overclocking
* Adjustable CPU TDP, BCLK & RAM Speed & Timings

Clevo P570WMx / Sager NP9570:

Spoiler

- Boosted PCIe buss speed from 1.1 to 2.0
- Fixed CPU Turbo limited or not working at all (Xeon)
- Fixed CPU OC not working
- Enabled RAM OC
- Added ACPI, TPM, CPU, CSM, Enhanced SATA, USB & Fast Boot Menus:
- Enabled NON Win8 UEFI BOOT (Linux, Dual-Boot etc)
- Clevo BIOS Base updated to v10 & EC v08 (GTX7xxM & 8970M support)
- Fixed D5 stepping CPU bug
- Intel Boot Agent GE uptdated to v1.5.35
- Intel ME Firmware updated to v8.1.40.1416
- Sata RAID updated to v12.7.0.1936 (Lagacy & UEFI)
- New Prema Mod Style
- CPU microcode updated:

206D7 70c > 70D
206D6 616 > 619

W110ER, W150ER, W170ER, W350ET, W370ET (Sager NP6-Series):

Spoiler

- Updated EC base to version 1.02.09 (W110ER/W150ER/W170ER)
- Updated BIOS to v1.02.21 & EC v1.02.13 (W350ET/W370ET)
- Fixed CPU Turbo being disabled while dGPU is active "bug"
- Enabled CSM menu
- Added iGPU OverClocking & Voltage Control
- Added "Short Duration Power Limit" Control
- Added NON Win8 Mode UEFI BOOT support (For dual boot & Linux systems)
- Added a few Advanced Boot options incl. "Fast Boot"
- Added Advanced USB & Sata Options
- Sata RAID updated to v12.7.0.1936 (Legacy & UEFI)
- Realtek PCIe oROM updated to v2.55
- Intel HD oROM updated to modded v2158
(fixed: HDMI Audio, ext. Dispaly detection, brightness control)
- New Prema Mod style

ENJOY!

 

I <3 u Prema!

P.S.: Did you changed the Fan-Table again?

 

Not on P370EM.

 

What are the differences between the releases? Is there a way we can tell which revision of chips were used on our W110ERs?

 

Just read what is written on the mem chips, 2 are directly next to the GPU cooler...