PowerSpec 1710 + 1510?

Thanks again. Once more, you've come through in the clutch.

The only difference was I had to run HkeyTray.exe in Compatibility mode as well. I ran the Program Compatibility Troubleshooter, and Windows recommended running in Comp mode Win 8. After that it worked again. Easy peasey.

How did you do that? Are you some sort of wizard? Can I do magic too?

Thanks, again.

 

Thanks, 4th times a charm. This time I used a slightly larger pea size and instead of spreading, I just slapped the heat sink on it and now my temps are within reason and slightly better than previous. 77c peak gaming on my typical choice of title (with laptop fan) and holding steady.

(venting) I will say, my frequent unscrewing of the case has not been good. The screws, specifically the ones holding down the gpu are quite soft and the liberal manufacturer's thread-lock caused me issues the first go around which only proceeded to get worse with tightening and loosening. Fortunately, I have an old dell to scavenge from that happen to have compatible screws.Sigh.... But one of the plastic retainers that hold knurled nuts is toast, completely broken. Can't screw the corner down, though it's not like the backing is not being held down by the 10 other screws. It's irritating that it's cosmetically and somewhat functionally damaged with regards to fastening.

 

Good to hear it works for you. As I wrote previously I disabled the hktray exe from starting doing that though prevents all the tray apps from starting including the keyboard settings so you will have to manually restart the keyboard color app.
Not a big deal for me since I usually just put in sleep mode.
I wouldn't say I am a genuine computer wizard. I would say I certainly picked up a few things from the true wizards out there
The real good stuff has to stay a trade secret lol

 

The screws have JIS Japanese Industry Standard heads so you need to use that type driver or you will chew up the heads.
You can probably fix whatever is wrong but would involve getting at the other side of the board to change the insert

 

Anybody use that obsidian driver tool app thing ? Does it work for the powerspec1710?
Looks pretty cool

 

Yep, just use PA71HS-G as your model.

 

Great tool. Only wish it let me update the BIOS.

Has anyone replaced the screen on the 1510? Is it even replaceable? I wouldn't mind maybe doing it if it's possible to put in a nice IPS display with a higher Hz rating.

 

I tried it once on my 1510 and and if I remember correctly it messed up my touchpad drivers.
Personally I don't see the point of constantly checking for updates since the laptop works great as it is, i learned the hard way not all updates a beneficial.
Besides Windows constantly checks for updates so I will get the important ones that matter (usually)
I don't even bother with nVidia updates, If i had a game that needed it I would
if there were a bios update I wouldn't even bother with that unless they added features (which I doubt will happen at this point) or they discovered something critical that needed patching.
I certainly wouldn't pay for a tool that does what I can do with a bit of work for free

 

True, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
But I thought the whole point of updates were performance and efficiency tweaks?

Or am I naive in thinking that.
So far, touch wood, I haven't buggered up anything up.
I don't mind helping a developer that is also on the forum either. But indeed, if you got the know how then I wouldn't pay either.

 

W10 gets updated with new builds and drivers do need to be updated. Like going from RS2 to RS3, etc.

 

I would avoid updating unless you have issues to be fair, changes to new drivers will roll the dice each time at hitting a bug. Except for GPU drivers for say a specific game.

 

I wouldn't say naive maybe over optimistic It would be great if every update gave a performance boost or tweak, I stopped checking everyday for updates long ago when I found that to not be the case.
Some of my favorite programs (and web sites) have be wreaked by updates as well.

The exception is Windows updates that are automatic, but most of those are plugging security holes.
I have gotten into the habit of backing up (cloning) my system on a regular basis since some updates just plain break my system, has saved me a lot of grief many times

The last update I did with noticeable positive results (that I can recall) was with a box I built with an Asus MB the USB 3 transfer speeds were poor but an Asus update fixed that, in that case there was an obvious problem.

So using another analogy as I do you can always squeeze a bit more out of a tube of toothpaste but it is going to get to a point it is not worth it anymore

 

That usb was a patch for an issue, it's the time to be doing that kind of update. Chipset drivers and the like just generally are not going to make an impact in performance for any use case. It just matters more if you are using bleeding edge tech of the time and sorting issues.

 

Yeah that pretty much sums it up

 

I picked up Battlefield 1 for my 1510 a week ago and CPU temps have been odd. First few days, temps idled around 80, with a rare spike to 87. Last couple of days temps are way down, high 60’s/low 70’s. Maxed at 74 yesterday.

I was playing the same maps with 64 players and mayhem everywhere. everything ultra at 60fps. What would cause the temps be so different from day to day?? Does the undervolt not always work? Anyone else seen this before?

*CPU is set to a -.125 undervolt. Room has AC on. I use a cooling pad. Fans set to over clock.

 

Did you adjust how it sits at all? That kind of difference can be how raised the fans are and being able to draw in air easily.

 

I did take it somewhere Saturday, but I always set it up the same way when I get home. On a cooling fan with the legs out so it’s raised in the back. It’s possible it’s sitting differently on the fan, but still that’s better than a 10c improvement. I haven’t messed with undervolt since December either. It’s weird and I just want to replicate it to keep the temps so beautifully low.

 

I know Intel Extreme Tuning Utility which I use for my .100 core offset under-volt can disconnect at times.
Generally my 1510 stays under 80c both CPU and GPU under the most intense use with ambient temp around 21c, I usually have it sitting on a cooling pad.
I have ThrottleStop start automatically as well to enable Intel Speed Shift.
No I have not re-pasted

Sometimes you will find Windows or AV will be doing things in the background which can cause your CPU to run hotter, possibility anyway

 

I was thinking the same thing, that it could be the Intel extreme utility tool. Is there an easy way to quickly confirm my offset is active? So I know for sure that’s the cause.

Also, now I have to google throttlestop and intel speed shift. I have not used either before. Any helpful links would be appreciated.

 

Well the easiest way I guess is just to start Intel ET and look a core voltage offset, there is probably other ways.

As far as ThrottleStop and Speed Shift I learned all about that right here on Notebook Review. If I remember correctly you just enable SS and set it to start with TS then you can create a task so it starts with login.
Note about that if want to tweak it a bit you have to stop it in task manager then start it normally.
It can get pretty involved so I don't want to get into it to much since all the info you need is right here on NotebookReview.

You can check if SS is enabled using the HWINFO tool you will note it is in red till you enable it.
Why exactly such a great feature is disabled on these machines is kind of mystery

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-514

 

CPU-z will show the current requested voltage, if you know your chip well enough you know what each frequency tends to run at normally.

 

I see the "Core VID" using CPU-z Same with HWiNFO which is why I use Intel ET to set the core offset and also to ensure it is still set, if there is another way to check it I would like to know

The core offset does not make much difference until the CPU is under heavy load by the looks of it, with Speed Shift frequency's change very quickly as well

 

Hey everyone!
I have been following this thread ever since I bought my 1510.

Today I opened up my 1510 to repaste it, but the CPU heatsink screws gave me a bit of trouble. I tried using a Phillips head #0 but it unscrewed 2 screws, while the remaining two are a bit stripped. I want to know which exact screw-head did you guys use to open up the CPU heatsink.(I read that they are Japanese Industry screws, but which exact head?) I will buy a screwdriver specific to that then.
Thank you!

 

I use my Stanley Precision toolset, and I use the largest Phillips. Apply pressure straight down, and they'll turn.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-66-052-6-Piece-Precision-Screwdriver/dp/B00009OYGV

This one? It has Phillips heads and not JIS ones.
It's just that 2 of my screws are a little bit stripped and I don't want to strip them further by using an incorrect screwdriver.

 

This is the set I have though I got not for the laptop but my DSLR Cameras. I used one of them to check that the sink was seated proper (it wasn't)
Also that is how I know they are JIS type since fit perfect.
There are many good precision screwdriver sets out there as long as the flute profile matches you should be all right.
You may be able to finish the job with the right driver. Problem with all those small screws is they are all made of soft metal, I found that out the hard way my self.
The first link is for the JIS type I got, second is for a precision set that shows the profile

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004PGO1T6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019ZSK57K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I use the ifixit tool kit on mine except for the base cover screws where I have a long thin Phillips for due to the recesses.

 

Yep, that's the one I use. Yes, it's a phillips, but it worked w/o issue as long as you press straight down on the screw top.

 

So last night CPU temps were back up 10 degrees. They went up from averaging 70 to averaging 80. 80 was the average for the first week I played BF1. During the previous 3 days where cpu temps were averaging 70, I noticed the gpu temps were also lower. Last night they were also back up as well. Whatever caused the improved temps may not be related to the cpu at all. I’m assuming it’s power related but I made no changes and have not moved my system. There was zero performance hit to BF1 when temps were lower so I really want to replicate whatever caused the temp improvement. Thoughts??

Edit: I have three programs running while gaming. HWmonitor, afterburner with RTSS, and GeForce experience. Could any of them cause this?

 

It probably has more to do with the game and optimizations or lack of in certain parts or under certain conditions, I guess
Either way I would not worry about it running at around 80c laptops will always run hotter (for now anyway) and is well within safe operating range

 

Yeah, I agree. It just one of those things that will bug me until I figure it out. I’ll share my findings if I do.

 

Still following this thread, but haven't been on in a while. I still love my Powerspec 1510 too.

I had a scare, yesterday, with my speakers...the sound just went really scratchy. When I listened with headphones, it was fine...so I did a troubleshoot. It told me I might have an issue with my driver. (Why so randomly??) I reinstalled the driver, and it seems to be okay. *crosses fingers*

Anyone having issues with playing MMO games ever since installing the most recent NVIDIA driver? I didn't have any lagging with the screen loading or when moving between lands, but I do now. Is there a known issue with the recent driver?

Also, I'm trying to install Office 2013 because I have a product key and don't want to pay for an Office 2016 subscription. The installation wizard tells me that I need to uninstall 2016 in order to install 2013. If I uninstall 2016, will I be able to reinstall it later (in case I decide I want to get an Office 2016 subscription.) Thanks for the help!

 

Same here really like my 1510
Windows 10 is another story, it is probably why you are having driver problems.
I am running nvidia driver 391.01 every driver version after that I seem to have problems, I have not tried a clean install but if I do will clone the system first.
As far a Office goes there is an Easy Fix tool from MS to completely remove it then just install any version you with a valid key

 

I have a really weird question guys. Every time I try to increase the volume or to change the brightness I have to press the FN key as well and is super annoying. I tried FN + ESC, tried windows mobility center, FlexiKey app, checked the BIOS, read the whole clevo manual and nothing. Can not find a way to permanently enable the FN key here. My old Dell had it in the BIOS and also by pressing FN + ESC. No luck here. Any ideas?

 

According to the manual there is no way to lock the FN key electronically
I have not come across the option anywhere in the bios or Windows options etc.

 

I have F4 set to mute and unmute in Flexikey, maybe you could record a macro there.

 

@Canonfodder Thanks for the reply. I kind of wondered about Win 10. Ever since it did Windows Updates and I go into a game, it has this pop up thing on the side telling me about special key stuff I can do. I don't know what the exact keys are (Windows button + something) because I just ignore it. As for Office...since these laptops came with Office 2016 already installed and I didn't get a backup disc, how would I reinstall it?

 

Total noob question here. After reading up on throttlestop, I want to switch over from xtu. The only setting I used on xtu was core voltage offset. Can I just reset it to default (0) and uninstall xtu? Is that the safe way to do it before using throttlestop?

 

Not sure what those popups are but I am sure you can disable them.
As far as office goes MS has trials you can get for office 365 for 9.99 month subscription
There is also this but you may need a valid key or perhaps you can get a trial
https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...c-or-mac-4414eaaf-0478-48be-9c42-23adc4716658

Or you can just say the hell with all that and get Open Office completely free

 

Just hit reset, apply and stop it from starting up with windows. I have had both running at the same time without too much issue.

 

I ended up changing XTU back to 0 offset. Then set up throttlestop with a -100.6 cpu core and cache offsets. Plus a -40 gpu offset. Temps in BF1 went down 10-12 degrees. I think it’s safe to assume the XTU offset just wasn’t working for whatever reason.

 

The integrated intel GPU or the GTX 1070? I cant find settings to undervolt the 1070.

 

Okay, so I've noticed some very weird temperature issues with my 1510.

I have undervolted my CPU by -150 mV. Now whenever I play a game (like Witcher 3, Forza Horizon 3) - My temperatures would remain good (70-80 C) but after ~10mins the temperatures would jump to 85-95 C. I am in the same area in the game, even when I'm idle this is happening. I dont know why.

I have raised my 1510 from the back to support the airflow.

 

I believe the intel. Though with my new settings the 1070 sits in the 60s while gaming. Here’s the video I used to help me set up throttlestop.

 

What are you using for undervolting? 150 sounds like a lot.

 

It's throttlestop only. Yeah -150 sounds like a lot but my temperatures are still pretty high, and because of this issue I basically can't play my favorite games for more than 15mins.

 

Has anyone tried doing hackintosh on the 1710?
Mine running macOS High Sierra in Discrete mode and using Nvidia Web driver just like a desktop. However brightness control isn’t working. Still trying to figure out how to patch DSDT to solve this issue...

 

Were you running XTU as administrator?

 

So you should probably open it up and and make sure your heat sink is seated proper, you should also make sure both fans are working
If your sink was loose your paste possibly could have pumped out.
You could just do a warranty repair on it since over heat issues are covered

 

Yeah I opened it up, everything is normal. I haven't repasted yet. Regarding warranty, I have moved out of USA so that also isn't possible.