Prema BIOS questions

fair enough man. I believe that too, but I also can't afford expensive and healthy fruit smoothies as often as I would like. so imo you take what you can get in life, and then you put the rest in savings so you can indeed live a quality and healthy long term life. but I do respect your decision and perhaps you already make enough money to achieve that therefore making your answer more truthful than what I was arguing to begin with. cheers mate.

 

I agree that healthy food has become a luxury in many parts of the world these days, but at least it's made somewhat accessible.
Sadly things like fruit smoothies aren't even thing here, we have to juice ourselve and since organic farming isn't a thing here either there will be pesticides in everything no matter what. I guess the focus here is more on keeping the mind and soul healthy rather than extending life as much as possible.

"The East taught me that there is a life after death, the West that there is one before" - Prema

 

Is EUROCOM no longer a PREMA partner? I noticed they are charging $125 for an unlocked BIOS. I just assumed it was from YOU. I like others appreciate all of your hard work with continuing to work on these Clevo notebooks.

 

If it is not prema bios than what is it? A custom eurocom bios similar to premas?

 

Spoiler

 

It seems they have chosen to take a different path.

Having hidden menus exposed is better than nothing. Hiding menus is a pretty chickenpoop approach from all of the notebook OEMs and they all deserve to be severely punished for it. There are ways of modding to expose hidden menus to improve a castrated piece of trash, and then there are truly unlocked BIOSes where everything works and all of the hidden problems and latent defects are fixed. @Prema provides a product that delivers.

 

Indeed. @Prema firmware mods are a blessing and a gift that none are entitled to. People that don't want crippled crap should not buy it with the expectation that Prema is going to fix it for them if they buy it from a vendor that is not a PremaMod partner. That approach is foolish and specious.

For the record, there is not any model of laptop that I am interested in owning without a Prema BIOS. No, not one. I won't spend money on broken garbage that I can only hope gets fixed someday. Here is where there is value and intelligence in buying from a Prema Partner Shop. It is unfortunate for those that have no capability of doing so. Some that claim they cannot have not explored all the options available to them, and some are just cheapskates or don't want the extra hassle and expense involved based on where they live. That's not Prema's problem. People that can easily buy from a Prema Partner Shop need to think carefully about the matter and get their priorities straight.

Whining and complaining about not being able to get it in a forum just makes them look like spoiled children, and actually decreases the likelihood that they will ever receive it as special unmerited gift someday.

Ultimate blame rests on ALL of the manufacturers for selling broken trashbooks. LGA and MXM will do nothing to fix cancerous firmware. End of story. Right @Papusan?

 

How do i mod bios to expose hidden menus? I am stuck with stock bios

 

I do not know how. I wish I did. It would be awesome to know how. But, there is another problem for most. No way to flash it after modding since now all of the scumbag loser OEMs have firmware protection in place. You would need to use a programmer to take a dump from the BIOS chip, tweak that file, then use the programmer to put it back. You would need a way to sign the modded BIOS or circumvent the signature-enforced write protection cancer to flash it using conventional means.

I would also love to know how to permanently remove the signature enforcement. I have no use for that trash, and I would arbitrarily remove it from everything I own if I knew how.

 

Don't be fooled, there is no performance gained by simply having more options. Those days are long gone.
Just using Throttlestop, XTU or even CCC OC app will yield the same results.

Edit: Just to bring it into perspective. It took me litteraly 3 months and hundreds of bricks to remove the throttle from the P870KM1. And I have modded a BIOS or two before...

 

The issue with the KM1, and the lengthy battle with the Tornado F5/EVOC 16L-G-1080 are excellent examples of why just exposing hidden menus is not anywhere near enough to be considered a solution. It's only part of the solution. It's awesome to have all of the configuration options available that everyone deserves to have, many of which have little or nothing to do with overclocking. But, as diabolical as they may be, the hidden menus is not the cancer part. The filth that totally ruins the performance of really good hardware has no menus. Making the menus accessible won't fix those problems.

 

Well, I feel everyone needs access to advanced options. My gigabyte board had a hotkey where you press ctrl and F1 to unlock hidden menus.
Without Prema vBIOS the stock vBIOS was limiting or throttling itself upon lite gaming.

 

After doing tech support for so many years, it's sometimes a breath of relief that people don't have access to certain things. I can just imagine how a phone call would go with a court reporter wanting to adjust their core ratio limits...

 

I agree with you wholeheartedly MR Fox. Prema is the only reason i have continued to own Clevo notebooks. Upon reading the forums and seeing the horror stories of people buying notebooks not with an affiliation with Prema and them have a myriad of issues with the notebook. I would not ever get another Clevo laptop from a reseller not having a partnership with Prema. The PremaMOD saves time and heartaches from purchasing a notebook from a NON Prema partner and the machine does not work right or up to potential.

 

Finally I found a topic where Prema answers. Hello everyone, I want to make undervolt gpu on my sager NP8657 (P650RE). Do I need to install a modified BIOS or just install the old version of the drivers and afterburner? If you need a bios, then where can I buy it?

 

You should contact Sager, or your Sager reseller, directly.

 

BUT! Sager is not a partner of Prema.

 

Hello - I've been looking for the PremaMod for the older Clevo P770ZM which I think does exist (at least I find references for it in various searches) but so far can't find a working download link. Does anyone know if it does indeed exist? I tried to PM Prema but being a new user with lower 'score' here I wasn't sure it worked. Thanks for any help - happy holidays to all.

 

WE WISH YOU AND YOURS A BLESSED CHRISTMAS SEASON!

 

After 5 posts, you should have opened the luxury of being able to PM users. It helps to tag users also, so they're notified about posts. @Prema

Hopefully you get some help with the mod soon.

Thanks Donald! Same to you and yours, and to the rest of the NBR community!

 

A BLESSED CHRISTMAS @ EVERYONE!

I have traveled large parts of the world and there is poverty and suffering no matter if it's America, Europe, Africa or Asia. If you ever got a Mod from me and for whatever reason couldn't give back to the project, now is the time to go out and buy someone in need a nice meal or some warm clothes instead! You don't have to belong to any religion to do good. Never forget, you maybe a billionaire today and a beggar tomorrow. And some people are so poor, all they have is money. So do good as long as you can!

 

Sometimes it can be as little as simply acknowledging someone. You might not have cash to donate, or an extra coat/shirt/etc to give, but next time you see someone with a sign asking for help don't just look away, just saying hello or a giving a nod can be just as important. Nobody likes to be invisible, especially if you're already feeling down and out.


Something as little as walking out of 7-11 with a little pack of treats and saying, "Hey man, want a couple cookies?" can be good enough to make someone's day.

 

A little common decency from everyone can make a day a whole different experience.

Merry Christmas everyone, I hope you all get to spend it around the people you care about and care for you

 

Hello Prema, so our last conversation was about the clevo model w355ssq which I install you magnificent bios. Many months later to the present, I've been thinking on doing a project evolving a p170em.
My "project" goes to put a gtx 980m and overclocking. To cool down the temperatures, I will the pasting tutorial of the god Mr.Fox presently on youtube. I know you' ve been through some issues and the site as been take down. My request is the bios for the p170em as my last objective of my "project". Please contact me for whatever you need to pass the bios to me. Thanks in advance and merry christmas.

 

I like cookies...

 

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looks amazing, i would really need it to solve my "current limit throttling"

 

I wouldn't touch a Clevo laptop without the Prema BIOS. Period. Don't want no throttling / cancer BIOS laptop

Benefits of Prema BIOS:

• Restores user ability to overclock or underclock the CPU
• Restores user control over CPU power settings (voltage, watts, amps) for optimal performance and/or thermal efficiency
• Restores ability to control non-turbo CPU core ratio
• Restores ability to control CPU c-states and p-states
• Restores ability to control BCLK (northbridge) and FCLK (System Agent) frequency
• Restores ability to enable Intel Speed Shift Technology functionality
• Restores ability to disable Intel Software Guard Extensions (SGX) functionality which is intended for software developers who want to use that feature and causes erratic system behavior
• Restores ability to control RSR, Watchdog Timer, ASPM, ACPI sleep and hibernation functionality
• Restores ability to control RAM timings, clock speeds and enables the utilization of XMP profiles
• Restores ability to control selection of Legacy, UEFI and CSM to install whatever operating system is desired
• Restores ability to control CPU-based DEP, AES (encryption) and Virtualization
• Restores ability to control GPU scaling, PCIe speed and power management features
• Restores control over Thunderbolt and USB 3.1 configuration
• Restores control over SATA port configuration and Intel LPM. Having the ability to disable drive ports allows exclusive control over what drive receives the BCD/boot sector, system and recovery partitions during Windows Setup and eliminates the need to physically remove non-OS drives when installing a new OS.

 

Well... they say patience is a virtue...

('they' being owners of a EVOC P650HS-G, and maybe @Donald@HIDevolution too)
lol

 

do you have know where i could find those Prema Bios?? seems like i cant find em anywhere around the internet

I have a Clevo P651SE

 

you can't find a Prema BIOS unless you buy your laptop from a Prema Partner, then they will provide it to you. I don't think the Prema BIOS is out for your model anyway.

 

Hello guys,

Premafied P751DM2-G, I get this error in Windows 10 upon daisy-chaining:

"
This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)

If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system.
"

That is for a device marked as a PCIe to PCie bridge.

This makes some PCI devices unavailable for resource allocation, both on Windows and on Linux, including the ethernet adapters behind Thunderbolt 3 docks.

Do you know of a BIOS setting that can help address such a resource deficit? I'm seeing forums pointing to the TOLUD setting (which doesn't seem that safe to change).

On Linux, the error appears as:

BAR 13: no space for [io size 0x1000]

 

Is it TB3?

 

Yes

 

Did you check/tick Allow Override first device in chain restriction?

 

I have no such option..

 

You need to have Thunderbolt Software installed.

 

The software is already installed.

However, I have no option to "override first device in chain restriction" anywhere in the Thunderbolt software.

 

Try starting Thunderbolt service in services.msc and launch Thunderbolt SW.
Make sure you have 16.2.x FW update installed.

 

IF YOU BELIEVE, COVER THE WORLD IN LOVE!!! RAISE YOUR HANDS UP HIGH BABY!!!!


i want you to feel the love generation....


lol @Prema that was the best random website visit song I have ever heard and got my dancing in my chair


sidenote: I want to feel this love, come on give me a PREMA Bios for being a helpful member of the community here! ::dances and spins:: Clevo P670HS i7-7820HK and GTX 1070, you know you want to babycakes @Mr. Fox

 

PLEASE TELL ME THAT RJTECH.COM SELLS PREMA MOD BIOS COMPATIBLE CLEVOS. I JUST BOUGHT A P870TM1-G BAREBONES WITH THE HOPES OF PREMA MOD

 

If you pay for a high end machine you should support @Prema . Donate to them. I bought a clevo and dont know if im support by prema i pray to god i am. I would pay to get their custom bios on my machine if need be.

 

My poor poor eyes.

 

I don't believe it will come with Prema's BIOS... At least it didn't about 12-18 months ago when I was looking at purchasing from RJTech.

 

This is a question you should be asking RJTech.

 

Is this the proper thread for Prema BIOS updates? I was just wondering if the P750TM has one now.

 

If you put @ in front of Prema, you will probably have a better chance of getting an answer. @Prema

 

I would have purchased from you guys but you guys dont offer barebones. I got its 2800 with vaper chamber and 2 1080s in sli.

 

No worries...it's Ok...everyone is certainly entitled to make their own choices.

However saying we don't offer barebones is not really true. Look at our Customizer...no CPU, no RAM, no SSD or HDD, no WiFi and no OS are all available options. Sure, you paid a bit less, but you also got no Prema BIOS, and no testing or Q.C. regimen, or lifetime tech support. Even if you buy our barebones, we still build it with shop components and do thorough testing and Q.C. before removing the operational components.

Just enjoy what you got, and do without the things that didn't come with it...you got a great price!