Prema BIOS questions

Yeah, that's all Greek to me. I guess I have some studying to do unless there is a definitive guide.

 

It really depends on what you want to achieve. Lower temperature, higher power or maybe a mix of both. Every system is different due to things like the quality of the CPU, the thermal paste job or the environment it is used in and requires a bit of finetuning on its own. Once you have your system user here will be able to guide you, no worries.

 

Honestly, I don't want to buy a Ferarri and only drive it in first gear. It just seems a waste. I'll definitely ask around again once I have it in hand and I appreciate all the responses.

Cheers.

 

Hi Prema! I have a question for you. is eurocom a prema partner now?
http://www.eurocom-europe.com/shop/gaming-laptops/eurocom-sky-x9e2/

 

Nope. These are the current (public) Partner:

https://premamod.com/partner/

 

they wrote Unlocked Eurocom Prema Bios also here
http://www.eurocom-europe.com/shop/workstations/eurocom-sky-x7c/

check Bios options

 

Those are all old DM series models...
but I have nothing to do with the money they have been charging for it.

 

thanks

edit
they called x7c also new TM models, so I preferred asking to you
http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,430,0)SkyX7C

 

I have nothing to do with any of their current models.

 

Is there any chance that ur bios for p150hm will be released?

 

Unlikely due to low demand and lack of time.

 

Dear Prema, I am new here, ive read so many posts to make me realize you're the king of bios, if i want to request a bios for my p150hm , do I ask those partners?
sorry for this stupid question but ive been dying to have one of your modded Bios revisions.

 

I don't know how it is for other partners, but I've been told by Prema before that HIDevolution will update my BIOS remotely.

 

To be more specific, what Prema is doing is more like an ecu remapping. You will still enjoy your Ferrari for a minimum with or without remapping

 

True enough, but that ECU remapping would sure make me feel like I'm getting the full value out of the product. To that end I offer my thanks to Prema for creating a tool that allows such tuning.

P.S. None of my muscle cars had programmable ECU's, lol. Javelins, Chargers, Coronet and a few GM specimens. Although my new Challenger certainly does. See what you did, dammit, now I gotta go shopping for chips.

 

Dear @Prema ,

I'm user of your BIOS mod, from before your closed your website to the public. Recently I started having troubles with my P170EM keyboard, so I ordered a replacement part from China, but they sent me the wrong keyboard (left WIN key, instead of right).

Due to personal issues (currently living as an expat in Haiti) it would be very difficult for me to replace the keyboard due to the efficiency of the national post service, so I'm thinking of maybe keeping it, and replacing the BIOS mod for it to be compatible with the LEFT win keyboard.

Do you still give your mods to the public upon request?

Warm regards,

Eriann

PS: Miss your website

CC: @Mr. Fox

 

Swap the key caps

 

LMAO. Reminds me of the Japanese soap factory story.

http://edwardanil.blogspot.com/2010/04/innovation-japanese-soap-factory-story.html

 

I believe that there's an internal roadblock that prevents this.

Am I mistaken? Do I really just need to swap the key caps!? Because that's a totally acceptable solution (rather than fighting with Chinese customer service, or altering the BIOS once again).

 

Dear @Prema,

You helped me back in 2013 in the T|I forum when I updated my Sager NP9150 (Clevo P150EM) to your PremaMod 2.15.227 - Bios: 1.0.2.17PM V2 (7/1/2013) & KBC/EC: 1.02.11PM. Is there a newer update since that time? Can't seem to find any updates online anymore after all these years and discovered that you appear to have gone "private"?. I tried to send you a PM here but can't find any on your profile that is why i decided to post this. I'm from the Philippines. Thanks.

Regards.
Jojo

 

Hi erianmx,

I swapped my keys way back in 2013 when I updated my bios to 1.02.17PM v2 then. Originally my keyboard had the WIN key on the left but after the update I moved it to the right. No problem since it is easy to swap the keys where I used a small flat screwdriver to pop it out and snap it back in.

 

Hi everyone,

I am currently using a relatively old laptop (CLEVO P150SM, I bought it from a spanish manufacturer). I was very conscious about the environment and ecologism when I first bought it(you know, all the electronics and stuff ending up in Africa, the harmful processes behind the manufacturing of computers and the mining of minerals, and so on), and still am; but seeing as that was somewhat of a chimaera, I settled for something which could be easily upgraded and repaired, and would last me for years to come. For the most part I am still really happy with it, considering four years have passed.
However, and focusing more towards the future, I was wondering about the possibility of updgrading my computer with a newer graphics card like the GTX1060M, which curiously enough only the USA company Eurocom is selling right now. As I was learning about the whole process of installing a new graphics card, I read that the BIOS had to be updated in order for it to work, and after contacting my manufacturer and finding out they had dropped support for the laptop, I did a bit of research and came to know about PremaMod. I ignore if there is a PremaMod currently supporting this specific pairment (you know, GTX1060M in a CLEVO P150SM), but I would at least love to know about it, or an alternative if anybody knows one.

I love my laptop; I love the screen, I love the keyboard, everything; it seems so wasteful to discard all of that just because of a newer small chip.
I have read about the betrayal and all the shady things regarding the dissappearance of the PremaMods from mainstream access, and I will of course accept a no as an answer and underestand if you do not care at all - I promise to not write any more messages other than this one. Even so, I still think I had to try.

Also, english is not my first language; please excuse any mistakes I've made.

 

You can upgrade up to GTX 1070.

 

Yeah, I'm aware of that. However, in my specific model you need a replacement of the heatpipes to accommodate the slightly different card, and buying that plus the cost of the card is a bit outside of my buying power. It would last longer, but it's simply too expensive.

 

No, you simply need a dremel or if you want a really hard poor man solution sandpaper.

 

This link might be of help to you:

Clevo Bios older models (released in/after 2014):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-bios-older-models-released-in-after-2014.790474/

 

I would not be at ease doing any of those things... I'm not used to DIY like that, and I don't have any tools. Besides, I've already decided that, given that I can install a 10 series graphics card, it will be the 1060; cheaper, less heat, more battery life... I don't need all that power from the 1070.
Why did you suggest it in the first place though? Was it because of longevity, or something else?

Thank you, I've already checked that and the more up-to-date thing they have is a 2014 BIOS update from the official manufacturer... Which would not support what I want to do.

Thank you both guys

 

I merely stated that you can upgrade up to the GTX 1070, meaning 1060 is also included, it will still need heatsink modding. BIOS isn't an issue, even with stock BIOS you can run the pascal series. I don't even know where you got the Idea from that you need some sort of new BIOS to install a new graphcscard. Even with a BIOS from 2013, it will detect and run those cards flawlessly, you'll need to do an .inf mod and a heatsink mod. The cards will be known as "unknown" on BIOS, but it doesn't really matter because it's just a name string, nothing more.

 

Wow okay, thank you, that is very helpful!
I've got that info from the EUROCOM upgrade website: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,329,0)CLEVO_P15xSM_SAGER_NP8255
It says;

• BIOS Required:

• To use the 10 series cards you must... Running Windows 10 in full UEFI mode, Unlocked BIOS and All Custom written drivers.

• GTX 1070 card has been fully tested and working. You will need to purchase a modified heatsink and have a 230 Watt AC Adapter for this to function.

• GTX 1060 can use the original equipment heatsink with no modifications but you will need to re-position the thermal pads to match the new card layout

Also this thread right here ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/gtx-1060-mxm-in-clevo-p150sm-or-sm-a.797091/page-2) said something about eDP not being supported. That is what I don't understand: they clearly had something to worry about... Could I just continue buying MXM cards indefinitely, if they adapted to my laptop, then?

Anyways, that was really helpful, I don't want to flood this thread with off-topic discussions about something other than PremaMod

 

It's ok, despite your intel card having LVDS signal to the mointor, the dGPU will use its eDP signals and send those to a converter, which converts your eDP signals to LVDS (sidenote: Alienware with Optimus don't have that converter, hence are not compatible with pascal cards). That's the reason why Optimus based clevos support pascal without eDP and 120hz screens.

Also those statements are wrong.

Both cards won't run on normal heatsinks, they need to be modded.

Also the whole unlocked BIOS isn't needed. I ran on stock BIOS on my P157SM a 1060N without any problems. It is recommended to get an unlocked BIOS tho because of the customizability it gives you. I don't know about the Windows 10 UEFI mode, I always run in full UEFI and never tried legacy, so that might be true, custom drivers are true, .inf mod is needed in order to run the cards. Also the GTX 1070 might need unlocked BIOS + EC for it to run at it's absolute optimum, if you don't have that you might lose a little bit performance (maybe around 10%? )

As far as I know, the GTX 1070 needs a custom vBIOS in order to function properly in a eDP 120hz setup, since it otherwise seems to want to not use the brightness controls, then again you don't have to worry about that since your intel card handles the monitor.

 

JUST CAME HERE TO WARN YOU REGARDING USER BEING RIPPED OFF UNDER FAKE ACCOUNTS:

Spoiler

IF YOU ARE NOT CONTACTED VIA PM DIRECTLY BY MYSELF IT IS NOT ME!

Now please let me continue my travels in peace!

 

Person from this mail promised me 775TM1-G Prema bios for 70$ in BTC. Damn. It is good that I did not have time to pay...

 

Everything has been donation based from day one and I will never request anyone to pay a certain amount!

The only bitcoin wallet I posses is the one mentioned in the readme files and I didn't receive anything there since February 2017!

Also in case anyone paid via PP to those scammers yahoo/hotmail addresses please file a complain with PP.

If you are contacted on this forum by any such user expose their PMs in public and report them to the moderators!

 

Is there a Prema BIOS available for Eluktronics PRO-X P957HR systems?

 

prema mod, sorry to hear that, but i need your favor for my 2 year old p770zm-g as i really wanted to upgrade it with nvme ssd.. if possible can i have your piece of work to mod my stock bios.. tq

 

Prema, I don't personally know you and all I do know about you has been gleaned from these forums, but I feel like your quote a few pages back should be in your signature or something. Don't know if I have ever read anything more true that someone has written. Haha.

Thanks for all the hard work. Don't mean to sidetrack, just thought it should be pointed out.

 

Being a newer user of @Prema Bios i would say it is nice....

 

Hello Prema,
I have a problem with my Clevo P177SM. My AMD HD8970m graphics card is defective.
Have I already bought a 980M GTX, but then I first read that I need a different BIOS.
Can you please help me with that?

Best regards, Thomas

 

Is there a Prema BIOS for the Clevo 775TM? I'm assuming the 870TM BIOS has been released for a while, so was hopeful that the 775 wouldn't take too long to get its BIOS, if it will (which my reseller indicated it would).

 

I can not tell you unfortunately, I need a bios for the P177SM !
:

 

You don't need prema bios for GTX 980M.

 

I forgot to ask, is there a list anywhere, or can we get one made, of all models that Prema has made BIOS updates for? After this experience, Clevo is absolutely never an option if Prema hasn't already released his BIOS for it.

 

Hello, Thanks for the info, so I can install and it works! Best regards Thostie

 

If you purchased from a Prema Partner, have you checked with them?

 

Yep. I was told "We'll contact you with a time for us to install this for you later".

This won't do me any good now as I've since delivered the machine to my client, so I haven't pushed back recently. And being at their mercy for timing to install instead of allowing me to install it the next time I'm on site also reduces my time to tweak it and the value of his machine.
Because of this, if I could verify that the BIOS is finished, I was going to see if Prema would provide me the BIOS so I could install it.

 

I believe that may be something of a problem.

Now, someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the arrangement with Prema partners is for those partners to remote flash only. I've never seen anyone being provided with the BIOS.

 

Mine was remotely installed (A few weeks ago) and the install files get deleted automatically when complete. It's just a layer of security to ensure that Prema gets his due and we don't have another episode of someone stealing his work and selling it as their own.

 

I thought I'd read a few exceptions, and I sure don't want to steal his work, or pass it off to somebody who would.
But if I can't get this installed for my clients, and I'm stuck on waiting for my reseller to get around to me when they're good and ready even for my own machines, then Prema partners become rather useless to me, and Clevo's absolutely not worth their weight in sand.

Might be time to pay half as much, get some BGA junk that can be replaced for better performance in a couple/few years, and go back to Dell or MSI.

 

I understand your frustration but you have to consider that the resellers (At least HID anyway) have to block out a 30-minute window for each customer that needs a bios update and that adds up to some serious time required to get to everyone, especially if you are down in the queue. I'm not saying it's a good situation, far from it, but until Prema can find a way to release his code to the public again and keep it from being reverse-engineered we are stuck getting patched one by one. Maybe something web-based with a single-user token might resolve the issue, I don't know.

Until a faster solution presents itself I think we are at the mercy of the resellers and their available time.

 

3.5 months (and counting) is a long time to wait. I suppose if I were to consider Clevo again, I'd have to make sure the partner would send me a pre-patched system. I'd like another Nvidia 10xx card laptop soon, I don't think the 11s will be here for a while, so I guess it's time to start shopping outlets : (

Maybe it's time for the partners to start setting expectations and say "*Prema BIOS available approximately 6 months after delivery.", and then we're not disappointed and know what we're getting into.