Prema BIOS questions

Yeah, that is quite a long time to wait. I suppose I got lucky in that the Prema bios became available for mine shortly before I ordered it and the patching to version 2 came a few weeks later.

 

Hi Prema,

I have a Clevo P15SM laptop and it's over heating with just windows 10 not running anything else. CPU cores are on average around 87Cº each core according to CPUID Hardware Monitor.

I heard that Prema mod bios can allow me to reduce hyper threading and reduce the number of cores in use.

Can you help me?

Regards

 

Are you hoping to solve a particular problem with the BIOS? Or you just want to make sure your system is up to date?

For those of you who have yet to purchase a system, if there's not a Prema BIOS available from a Prema Partner for your model, check with other resellers (XMG and Eurocomm come to mind). They have a different BIOS which still may have what some have been looking for.

 

Well, covering the Intel CPU level vulnerabilities would be nice. As would a functional UEFI boot. And the ability to enable or disable HDDs and RAID.

I think for those yet to purchase a system, if you're considering Clevo and you want a working BIOS, require that the Partner Reseller include the Prema BIOS installed before shipment as a condition of purchase.

 

@capjack I've already delivered the Mods for the TM-series to Partner a good while back. Just contact your re-seller and let them know exactly when you want them to install it.


@ everyone I am still of of station and won't be able to take a look at your requests...


Also don't let anyone scam you in my name:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/beware-premamod-scammer.814042/

 

Hello,

First of all I wanted to say I have been following this particular section ever the W110ER has been released and I have always been a great fan of HTWingNuts Reviews and Premas work.

Now I am a little bit late to the party but I got a pretty fair deal on a used W110ER (in my country XMG A102) and I absolutely love this little laptop.

Although it might be outdated in todays terms it fits my personal needs perfectly and I would love to customize it even more.

I have tried contacting @Prema via PM but the option doesn't seem to be enabled here, additionally I have tried his website but it only shows a newsletter subscription (which I have signed up to but haven't received anything)

I would be very grateful to receive a prema bios for the W110ER (mine has the 3632QM) especially to undervolt it a little bit more and make it run cooler.

I have also read about custom heatsinks, are they still being made?

Thanks very much in advance

 

You cannot undervolt ivy bridges.

 

so its not possible to even underclock the cpu ?

I have often read w110er prema mod bios is far superior though to the many options it unlocks and customizable features.

Even if undervolting isnt possible I would be very grateful to receive it.

 

It does only matter if you do overclock, so really no need for it.

 

I would consider overclocking if the thermals allow it

so in that case I would still be interested

no one can provide any help on getting the bios? I would also consider donating to prema

 

There is no would consider OC. You need a 3920XM or 3940XM to overclock which your cooling cannot handle without modding the entire system. All you can do right now is just wait for Prema to answer or not, currently he's very busy so it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

 

Is your laptop an XMG model? If so, try contacting @XMG themselves. They don't use Prema's BIOS, but have their own that is somewhat open too. A quick email, phone call or whatever might provide you with more information if they have one for your model too.

 

Thank you very much, now this is very helpful

I only bought the notebook to mod it, I am also planning to install an ips display and another member that suceeded in doing this said its a requirement to runs Prema Modded Bios m.

 

I hope @XMG is able to help with the answers you seek. Good Luck!

 

I'm not supposed to link directly to our website as it's against nbr rep posting rules, but I think it's ok when directly asked for links to BIOS:

https://www.mysn.de/secure/userarea/download.asp

In "Archiv" section and then A102. Unfortunately I can't help with the answer RE the IPS panel and supporting BIOS for that, it's not something that was ever officially offered and I've never seen it done so wouldn't want to muddy the waters!

 

as the title states, im looking for Prema's mod for the clevo P770zm. i purchased a samsung evo 960 nvme and would like to use it as a boot device. if anyone has a copy that i can use i will be ever so grateful

yes i tried to contact prema via twitter and this sight, along with tagging him i understand he is busy

my computer is actually a BOXX laptop that uses the clevo motherboard the space on my old nvme is too small and i use my machine as a work station and my boot drive is fill hence me purchasing an evo 960 tb.

ive already purchased the drive, there's no way for me to exchange it

if anyone has a copy of the file that can share it please send me a pm or reply here. thank you

 

The Clevo P770ZM chassis supports bootable NVMe drives with the stock (un-modded) BIOS, including (from memory) Samsung SM951, Evo 850 and Pro 960. You'd need to use it in the primary M.2 slot (slot 2 in the manual) because that's the only slot with x4 PCI-e support in the chassis.

 

So, I just got my wonderful Prema BIOS update today. I was wondering if there are new guides out there on how to OC/tweak with the BIOS settings.

I'm just about to give up right now and set everything to default values. I was thinking ThrottleStop would be easier.

I did watch @Phoenix's 2016 walkthrough video, but parts of it has since been changed either by name, location, or value itself. It's just driving me a little bit nuts right now with how my fans are a tiny bit noisier at idle than how it was pre-update.

But hey, I really appreciate Prema's work. I just want to maximize it right now.

 

Try @Mr. Fox 's You Tube Channel for some Over Clocking (OC) videos. They may not exactly match your BIOS, but should have some common elements that may help - https://www.youtube.com/user/MrFoxRox2/videos

 

I've mostly used @Mr. Fox (P870DM3, January 2017 video) and @Phoenix's (2016 video) as guides. The former being the more recognizable Prema BIOS compared to what we have right now. I'm still struggling where exactly should I be tweaking things because I'm not used to the fans spinning on idle at the moment. I really think that the solution is right in front of me, and I am severely missing the obvious due to lack of my experience and knowledge.

In essence, I mostly followed all of @Mr. Fox's settings with the caveat that I did an underclock of -100 instead of his +25 because I was thinking that it might solve the temperature/fan issue that I have right now. I realized that since I did not save the OC settings that came before my Prema BIOS update, my idle temperature rose by about 7ºC, and it quickly rises (+10ºC or more if playing a game) whenever I open an application. I know that's how it's supposed to be, but it's just a bit more than what I was experiencing pre-update. The ambient temperature hasn't changed, it's a bit colder right now even (Toronto).

I still haven't had a definite answer as to the pros/cons of BIOS OC vs. ThrottleStop OC. @Zoltan@HIDevolution told me that the hardware OC (BIOS) was better. I just want to know your thoughts on this because I've tried TS with my AW 15 R3 unit before.

Again, thank you for all the suggestions.

 

Most of the BIOS settings for the P870DM3 with 7700K should work the same for your system with 8700K. Voltage will most likely be different for your 8700K.

One thing to bear in mind, there can be a wide variance in CPUs. I have had three 8700K in my desktop, and all three have had significant differences in voltage requirements. I have had three 7700K in laptops... P870DM3, 16L13/EVOC 16L-G-1080/Tornado F5 and now one in the P870DM-G. The first two required less voltage and were similar, but the one in my P870DM-G is a crappy sample like the second 8700K that I had in my desktop. The higher you go with the overclock, the more the strength or weakness of a given CPU sample is going to be apparent.

If you are looking for 4.7GHz to 4.8GHz on your 8700K, you should be able to get away with something like 1.170-1.850V (ball park). It goes up from there as the clocks go up. My last 8700K needed roughly 1.475V for 5.2GHz, was not stable at 5.3GHz and would not boot above 5.3GHz. My current 8700K runs super stable at 5.3GHz with about 1.375V and will run 5.5GHz with 1.485V.

If you want to test my ThrottleStop.ini file, I have attached it. Replace your own ThrottleStop.ini (save a backup copy) with the attached. If any of the four profiles work good for you, set that voltage in the BIOS. I use static (override) voltage, not adaptive. The profiles are set up that way. Let me know if they work well for you, or if you can use less or need more voltage for yours. Feel free to tweak the voltage up or down to find the sweet spot.

Hope this helps.

 

@Mr. Fox, thank you for the TS file. I still have to reset the BIOS settings before using TS. Right? I'm just starting to play around the voltages. Knowledge of the basics has been the barrier for me right now, but I'm catching up.

Here's my HWiNFO64 pre-Mr. Fox's TS settings (I'm just downloading TS right now).



Is there anything odd about it?

EDIT: Those are idle temps. right now. I think it's okay since the heater is on at 24ºC at the moment.

 

You should not need to reset the BIOS if you have applied the power limits and other things. ThrottleStop will control that as long as you don't have the BIOS set to zero for Core Max OC Ratio. I cannot tell from the idle temps. You need to run Cinebench or wPrime to see if it is stable. If it is, you can try lowering the voltage for the profile you are using. Just take the changes in really small steps. Only 3 to 5 clicks of the arrow left or right, then stop to test. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

How is stability observed when running the tests? When the computer does not freeze/restart? I did a quick Cinebench (demo) test, and I only got a 1364 score. Currently setting up TS.

EDIT:
I had to double check the Core Max OC Ratio. I'm listing all the relevant information (at least what I think) that I have changed in the BIOS in the spoilers below. To be honest, I'm still reading what they are right now. This is mostly an exact duplicate of the amazing @Mr. Fox's settings.

Spoiler

Code:

Power Settings:
PPL 1 = 160000
PL 1 Time Window = 128
PPL 2 = 160000
VR Current Limit = 2400
Core Ratio Override = 6 cores, all 48
PPL 3 = 160000
PL 3 Time Window = 0
PPL 4 = 160000
PSYS Pmax Power = 2400

Sytem Agent and Core/IA VR Settings:
PS Current Threshold 1/2/3 = 80/20/4
IMON Offset = + 25348
VR Current Limit = 2400
VR Voltage Limit = 2001

C states = disabled

Core/Ring settings:
Max OC Ratio = 48
Voltage Mode = Adaptive
Voltage Offset = -100
Ring Doman Ratios = 0
AVX2 Ratio Offset = 0

Uncore Settings:
Uncore Voltage Offset = +10

PLL Voltage Offsets (Core, Ring, System Agent, Memory Controller) = 0
Platform Voltage Overrides = all disabled

 

i have and it doesnt boot if you look on the forums multiple people had this issue and the solution was the prema mod.

 

Yup, I saw the same information - but we've supported NVMe boot drives from the start and haven't had any issues. We don't use Prema BIOS but, we don't use an exact stock Clevo BIOS either - but AFAIK we didn't have to change anything to achieve compatability of functionality.

 

You cannot get a Prema bios anywhere but directly from Prema, or through someone who has direct permission from Prema to redistribute his Bios mods. You can try contacting @Prema here or go to his website or twitter account.

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/

Redistributing a Prema bios violates his terms

 

Then share the BIOS with him?

 

;-) @banishedmonk

https:// www.mysn.de /secure /userarea /download.asp (delete the spaces) 1/XMG > XMG_U505_und_U705 > BIOS .....there are different versions depending if you the laptop is G-Sync or not.

 

Pls i really need your help..
May someone send the prema bios for clevo p157sm?

I have a problem with my gpu fan (radeon hd 8970m) , which is not operating at his max power. I think the new driver crimson\adrenalin set a max limit for the fan. I think it's blocked araound 40% .. And i can't control the fans on my laptop.
So, the gpu temperature reaches 95\100° of temperatures..
I've already format windows, ugpraded and downgraded driver, removed dust from fan
Pls help!

@Prema

 

FN + 1

(not f1)

 

You can contact Prema using his website:
https://premamod.wordpress.com/


Good luck.

 

Yeah i know, and the gpu and cpu fans increase their speed, but still i'm sure that the gpu fan does not go to its maximum speed..

 

It does. I think what you're facing is a tim issue as of now. Either that or janky af heatsink as usual.

Go buy IC Diamond or Gelid GC extreme, repaste it and see how the temps are dropping to 80s.

 

[QUOTE = "Danishblunt, post: 10709670, membro: 682321"] Funziona. Penso che quello che stai affrontando sia un problema tim di ora. O quello o janky af dissipatore di calore come al solito.

Vai a comprare IC Diamond o Gelid GC extreme, ripugnalo e osserva come i tempi scendono fino agli anni '80. [/ QUOTE]

Ty for the help! I will try..
Anyway, no one have prema bios?

 

I do but I won't send it without permission of prema, Also it wouldn't make any difference in your case.

 

I tried contacting @Prema as well tagging him. There's no way to contact him via that link. I even attempted to reach him via twitter

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I'll take a look at it. I really do appreciate it if it checks out

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I'm trying to contact him, but it's impossibile (i can't send private message to him)
I heard, that inside prema bios, there are some options to control fans

 

nope, wrong. There is a more agressive fan profile, which causes the noetbook to be louder on lower temps. In your case it does absolutely nothing since your issue is because of tim and probably bad fit.

 

but with prema bios i can control fan through afterburner or speedfan?

 

I already told you, no. There is no fan control on that model.
even with prema BIOS, I have premafied P157SM and the only thing prema does is optimize settings, unlock important settings and make sure all components get more power, which in return helps greatly when doing hardcore overclock etc. In your case you would be making your notebook louder and hotter.

 

Ok, ty a lot for the help! I will try to repast the thermal past.
By the way, i'm pretty sure that my fan is not going to its maximum speed..
I remember that the noise was unbearable, when it was at full speed

 

@XMG i tried the bios and it did not flash. it went the the status bar to 100 and restarted. the original bios is still on the computer. i am really at wits end with this. only thing i can do is hope that @Prema responds with the bios. or get another laptop, which is crazy because this was a 4k usd laptop in 2015

 

Hello Prema (& the rest of the team) ....

I have had a P150SM for some years now ... and have the same issues as almost every owner : The fans are just driving me crazy. I have read on a few occasions your modded BIOS could be THE saviour to my ears and mental health so I was wondering if I could have access to your BIOS and dirvers ?

I am also in the process of purchasing a N870EK1 (with the 8th Gen 6 core CPU's and a 1050Ti) for the wife, so if you have anything already for those machines, that might avoid being forced to listen to whining fans in stereo

Offtopic: How does the Premamod compare/relate to Obsidian ?

Thanks a lot !

MaXX99

 

There's a Clevo leaked software called ECView68 that let you control fan speed within windows. Use it at your own risk since Prema told that there is a chance it could break EC chip.
Im using it without problems for now (finger crossed), you can look on Google for ECView68.rar and you'll find it.

 

No, it doesn't break the EC. It is a software designed for short period internal test phases to generate results then used to make EC FAN curves.
It is not designed to be used as a daily driver, tends to loose control over the FANs over longer periods and as such can result in overheating and broken board components (e.g. FANs suddenly no longer spinning up or at all even though temps reach 90c+).

 

Since I would like to hold on to my faithfull P150 (it is still going strong with a Samsung 850 and 32 Gb RAM), I guess I would be better of not to go that route then ....
Do you have a modded BIOS with better fan curves for that particular model ? If so, how could I get it ?

 

I honestly don't even remember and would have to check. I made so many custom versions back in the days...

 

It's always a pleasure to see Prema himself answering here. Thanks will never be enough to pay for the immense knowledge he shared and the efforts he made for the notebook community