Sager 5760 (aka Clevo M570U) Announced!

I am currently basing it on the measurements given by the company.
It should fit the 5760 snugly according to the inner laptop pouch inside the backpack.
I have personally grabbed an exact copy of this backpack at CircuitCity a few weeks ago and I really liked it.
I was at 1st debating to get the Axio Forza/Hybrid or the Booqbags Python XL until I saw the Kensington Contour.
What sold me was the adjustable Lumbar support plus it was more than 1/2 the price of the Axio or Booqbag!

Like I stated in prior post.
I am prior USMC and after carrying VERY heavy backpacks for miles, Lumbar support is a must lol.
The whole backpack fits snugly and comfortably too.
If you want check out a CircuitCity near you and see if you like it
Main reasons I ordered mine from Newegg are: a) They sell it in black instead of Gray, 2) its a few bucks cheaper

Like I also stated before, there are TONS of notebook bag sellers out there.
check each of them out 1st and decide from there.
If you need some sites and suggestions for it, I can post some links I have found.

 

I'm curious why both PN and DL don't have an option for 1x 1024 RAM sticks...
it's either 2x 512 or 2x 1024... whereas istnc gives you lots of options on RAM...

 

Most people want 2 SODIMMS so that they get the "Dual Channel" functionality. "Dual Channel" doubles the bandwidth of the memory which gives it a small increase in speed and performance.

We now offer 1,024MB DDR2/667 (1 SODIMM) as a $5 upgrade as a result of your question.

 

Sweet! That's some good customer service right there.

It was purely a financial question... since you can buy a 1G SODIMM for ~ $85. this way you can still get a gig and not worry about having to lose 512M in order to add another gig later.

 

Also.. is no one selling the 5720 anymore now that the 5760 is out?
I noticed that PN and DL don't even have it listed anymore. ISTNC still has it, with $100 off if you buy a complete system.

 

Sager is sold out of the NP5720. After offering a $300 discount they flew!

 

That was a great sale. It even beat out the end-of-the-line Dell XPS M170 sale in my opinion; better quality, features, specs, all for not much more.

That is some fantastic customer service indeed!

 

When Sager was offering 5720 with $300 discount?

I thought that once they released 5760 -5720 was out of productions

Man - I missed that one and will feel sorry for a couple of day

Anybody else is still selling 5720 (with discounts) - any resellers?

Thanks,
Vasyl

 

ISTNC still has it. Sager is sold out of them as said before.
http://istnc.com/store/products.php?cat=151

They have $100 off complete systems.

 

I did it!
I finally Pre-ordered my VERY 1st laptop EVER!

Here is the final transaction which I hope to get by early June from DiscountLaptops.com

Sager NP5760 - V (Pre-Orders Now, Shipping in early June)
Qty: 1 Price Ea: $2,447.00
Total Price: $2,447.00
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Sager Special $100 Promotion on WUXGA Screen 5/13 - 5/31
WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) Glare (Glossy) Type Display (No Promotion on this Display)
[$-40.00]
Pentium DUO 2.0GHz Processor (Yonah / 2 MB L2 Cache / 677 FSB) [$100.00]
nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX w/256MB
2048 MB DDR2 (667 MHz) Memory (1024 MB x 2) [$160.00]
100 GB Hard Drive (7200 RPM) SATA [$75.00]
8X DVD±R/RW / 4X+Dual Layer / 5X DVD-RAM / CD-RW Multi Drive (Pioneer DVR-k16)
Integrated V.90/56K Modem (V.92 compliant)
10/100/1000BASE-TX Fast Ethernet on boardLAN Card
Internal Intel 3945ABG 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN
Add Internal Bluetooth Card [$55.00]
8-cell Smart Lithium Ion Battery
4-in-1 Flash Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MSPro)
Integrated 1.3M Digital Video Camera
Ac Adapter w/ power cord included
Free Carry Case
No Operating System Installed, drivers included on CD-ROM
1-year parts / 1-year labor warranty from Sager
Lifetime toll-free technical support by calling 800-741-2219 (or 626-964-4849)


Limited On-site Extended Warranty & Help Desk Options Options (Begins after
factory warranty ends)
Qty: 1 Price Ea: $100.00
Total Price: $100.00
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2-year limited on-site extended warranty & help desk [$100.00]


Optional LCD or Accidental Damage Protection (ADP) Warranty (Begins 1st day of
laptop ownership)
Qty: 1 Price Ea: $300.00
Total Price: $300.00
----------
3-Year Accidental Damage Protection (ADP) for entire system [$300.00]



$ 2,847.00 [Sub Total - Cash Discounted]
$ 25.00 [Shipping:Ground]
$ 0.00 [Adjustment from Cash-discounted pricing]
$ 0.00 [State Sales Tax]
$ 0.00 [Price Adjustments]
-------------------------
$ 2,872.00 [Total for this order]
​

Will make sure to post a review of this baby a week after I receive it.
(Or however early it is that I can test everything in this laptop)
"My Precious..."

Now I just need to time it right on when I will order Windows XP MCE 2005 & MCE Remote, Razer Copperhead Tempest and the Vantec LapCool4 LPC-430 from Newegg so it all comes right befoe I get my laptop
I already ordered a Kensington Black Contour Backpack Model 62238a from Newegg and should be here tomorrow lol.

Oh, I chose to get Windows XP MCE so I can be able to use a remote to control my laptop when using the CD/DvD player.
Thinking of getting a Hauppage External TV Tuner sometime in the distant future as well.

 

At last! Congratulations on your purchase; have fun waiting for it. I'll bet that your stress level will gradually go up the closer you come to getting it. It will be worth every penny and every second of waiting in my opinion.

Looks like the warranty took a toll on your final price, but given your situation, it's worth it . . protect your investment.

Don't know if you were debating between the T2500 and T2600; you made the right choice. The T2600's pricetag is ridiculous for the relatively small performance gain it brings over the T2500. The T2400 is the best price/performance after the T2300, but on a laptop like the 5760, the T2500 is what I'd select.

Once again, congratulations!

Chaz

 

I would have never made it this far w/o you Chazman and the NBR community.
Prior to finding this website, I tought the Dell's was the Best of the Best.
Showed how much I had to learn lol.
And I did learn TONS in this community.

Best part about this purchase is I stayed within my budget and have enough to buy Accessories

Oh, I chose to get Windows XP MCE so I can be able to use a remote to control my laptop when using the CD/DvD player.
Thinking of getting a Hauppage External TV Tuner sometime in the distant future as well.

 

DL doesn't list the model numbers... I assume from his build that the 2500 is the 2.0 Ghz? and the 2400 is the 1.86?

 

Correct.
I was without a doubt originally planned on getting the T2500 2.0ghz for the best price/performance.

T2300 = 1.66ghz
T2400 = 1.83ghz
T2500 = 2.0 ghz
T2600 = 2.16 ghz​

Does anyone know the exact number in comparison on how powerful the new PM is compared to older P4?
Like I have an older Intel P4 2.4b ghz on my desktop now and just tying to see how much more powerful a system I should expect

Also I was just told that Arctic Silver 5 is the standard used by Sager for the 5760
(and most likely most if not all their products)

 

Tough comparison . . the Core Duo will beat any Pentium 4. Period.

I'd say, oh, a T2400 would be faster than a 3.4-3.6GHz P4 in single-threaded apps. Perhaps faster. I do not know the exact numbers, but those are good estimates.

 

WoW!
I am in for a treat

This is my current Home PC Setup:

P4S8X MB
Intel P4 2.4B GHZ 533 MHZ FSB
1.7GB PC2700 DDR RAM
ATI X850XT 256mb AGP
120 GB Seagate HDD
Windows XP Home
Thermaltake 420W PSU
Xaser II A5000 Case
CL Audigy Gamer
ViewSonic VA1912wb Black 19" LCD Monitor
Logitech G15/G7/Z5500​

I think I am going to hold of on upgrading it until I milk my laptop for all its worth lol
By then there should be like Sextuplacore or something processors lol

Maybe I will just slowly turn my Home PC into a Media Center HTPC.
Emphasis on slowly so the missus won't get too mad

 

The single core Pentium M processors with 2,048k L2 On-die cache will run about 2X faster than your older P4 with only 512K L2 On-die cache, and the Core Duo Pentium M will be significantly faster than that!

 

I'm looking to replace an e1705 that I am unhappy with--BSODs right out the box. The the 5760 is one of the systems I am looking at. Any idea what kind of battery life can be expected with the 8 cell?

Chazman & Paladin you guys are great--been seeing your posts and have been learning a lot from them.

This will be my third notebook if you count the e1705.

 

Depending on what you are doing (not including gaming on battery) you should expect 1 to 1.5 hours battery life. For gaming cut it in half.

Oh, and thank you for your kind words!

 

Hello, I am new to sager. Just cancelled a dell e1705 after a few things dawned on me.

1) this new sager has the best video card out there: 7900 gtx. you can only get that card with the dell super expensive xps laptop

2) priced out this is a better deal even with dells 750 dollar coupon!

3) built in video camera

4) no bloatware

5) nice community here.

a question. Now there is a big debate at dells forum regarding what display is better for reading versus gaming.

what display should I get with my new sager ? 17" WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Glare (Glossy) Type Display or the 17" WSXGA (1680 x 1050) Active Matrix Display?

Finally, when do you think I will have this baby in my hands if preordered?

thanks

ucdoc (hematologist/oncologist)

 

You'll see the estimated delivery date on most reseller sites for the NP5760, so check those. There's a dealer guide at the top of this forum where you can find links to most Sager resellers.

What resolution are you using now, and have you used higher resolutions before? I'd probably go for the WSXGA+, games are much easier to handle at that resolution than WUXGA.

Chaz

 

Welcome ucdoc!

You are correct, the Sager NP5760 is a much better value than anything DELL has to offer.

As for the screen resolution please understand that it only controls the size of the image on the screen. It is kind of like zooming in or zooming out. The higher the resolution, the more zoomed out you are...the more you get on the screen at one time...but of course everything including text becomes smaller.

The best way to determine what resolution is best for you is typically to look at what you are using now (Start>Control Panel>Display>Settings tab). If you are currently using XGA (1024x768) then you will probably find WUXGA (1920x1200) to be way to high to be comfortable for your eyes, so stay with the WSXGA+. However if you are already using UXGA (1600x1200) then WUXGA will be just right. If you are using SXGA (1280x1024) or similar and you like it stick with the WSXGA+ (1680x1050).

Currently the estimated ship date for the first wave is June 7th

 

I just received my Kensington Contour backpack and happy.
had to expalin to the wife why I got it.
(told her I actually decided to buy that laptop she didn't want me to buy and should be here in a few weeks)

Also, I have included in the original post most, if not all, the info that has been posted in this thread for easier viewing of others interested.

 

I completely agree -- even though I was being somewhat facetious about my last post about Kilim -- I've learned so much from this forum and I really appreciate all the time people take to answer questions thoughtfully and thoroughly. I've decided on the new Sager 5760, and I have no doubts (thanks to you guys!)

 

I know this is a stupid question, but I have noticed that on this thread the current 256MB 7900 GTX available on the Sager 5760 is touted as the best mobile GPU available right now, and as being the same as Dell's. But Dell is advertising it as a 512MB 7900 GTX on their XPS m1710.

Now I know there are distinctions between dedicated graphics memory and shared--and to be honest I don't fully understand the intricacies of most of this anyway--but is the Dell card and the current Sager card in fact the same?

Please go easy on a non-tech-savvie PC lover.

Thanks

 

The Dell XPS M1710 and the Sager NP5760 have the same graphics chip, the Go7900GTX. However, the memory size is different - the XPS has 512MB dedicated, and the Sager has 256MB dedicated.
Dedicated memory means memory that the card has for itself; the Go7900GTX it has 256MB or 512MB of memory to store stuff. Shared means that the video card 'rents' memory from the main RAM, or borrows it. Much, much slower.

You won't see the shared memory advertised on the high-end cards like a Go7800/7900 or ATI X1800, so whatever memory amount it is listed with, you can assume is dedicated.

Chaz

 

Yes, the cards are the same, but with different amounts of on chip memory at this time. Sager will have the 512BM memory version released around early July.

For more understanding please read:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=53518&page=3#29

and

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=53518&page=4#39

 

This laptop looks to be the best for quality, value, and price and although this is my first post in the sager forums...I look forward to many more.

I am highly considering pre-ordering this great notebook as I was looking at other notebooks (slightly cheaper) like the dell e1705 and asus w3j, but it seems the performance and value of compenants etc. in the Sager 5760 is unbeatable...the 7900 GPU is something I really want as I am a gamer and this has to be the cheapest laptop with the most well thought-internal parts.

Although this may be slightly more expensive than some of the other notebooks i've looked at (in range of 1500-2000$), I believe and hope I am right to say that this Sager is worth every penny. Am I right?

 

Thanks Chazman and Paladin,

I really appreciate your quick answer to my question. That was what I thought. I just remembered some discussion somewhere sometime about some cards advertising their shared memory, i.e. a 128 MB card advertising as 256 MB when it was 256 shared, or something like that.

 

You know what I am going to say...

 

The PowerNoteBooks.com site seems to have the best deal imho for the 5760, and I very likely ordering this this weekend or very soon

This notebook seems to be an affordable luxury to indulge ourselves in!

Now im off to browse more through this forum

 

There are actually 3 kinds of video memory. Dedicated "on chip" memory, shared memory, and the new hybrid called TurboCache by nVIDIA and HyperMemory by ATi.

Dedicated "on chip" memory is the best and fastest because it is right on the video card to be used exclusively by the video card. This is often called discrete video.

Shared memory is the least favorable because the memory for the video chip is pulled from System Memory. This is also often referred to as integrated video. The current solutions are WAY better than they used to be as the memory is pulled "dynamically" as needed instead of being "user defined" as it used to be, and the dynamic shared memory solution is much faster than it used to be.

The new hybrid has half of the total possible memory available on the video card itself, and then pulls the rest dynamically from System memory. This is were you will see w/256MB or up to 512MB with either TurboCache or HyperMemory.

 

Well my Sager brethren, due to unfortunate financial circumstances for me lately (my truck got stolen) I had to settle on a less expensive notebook. I looked everywhere, and my parents and I finally ordered one today for my graduation/going to college present. It's a Dell Inspiron E1705 with the Core Duo 2.0ghz processor, nVidia 7900GS 256mb gpu, 100gb 7200rpm hdd, 1 gig dual channel ram, Windows XP Media edition, and so on. I got it for $1,620 shipped, so I'm very happy.

I'd like to throw out a special thanks to paladin44 and chazman for being so informative and helpful in the decision process. I've learned alot more about laptops by reading your posts in the past week!

 

Agreed there are some great and extremely helpful people on these forums. Sorry to hear you couldn't get the Sager! The E1705 should be great nontheless, I was partially considering it but since I can afford the Sager I might as well go with what I believe to be better quality, performance, and value

 

Ya sorry Wylde

But I actually tried a similar configuration of the Dell E1705 and somehow the Dell ended up costing more than the Sager 5760.
This is of course including the Extended Warranty & ADP.

 

What are Sagers made of - plastic? Particularly new one (5760)

If so, does it feel like plastic?

Thanks

 

I must say I envy you, as the 5760 was my dream system. I bet the 7900GTX just rips it up graphically too. However, I'm happy I got as nice as a laptop as I did. It arrives in a few weeks, and I can hardly wait. The 7900GS should be plenty good, and it might even have some OC potential with the right drivers. Hopefully in a few years down the road when I think about upgrading, I'll be able to get some crazy nice Sager...

 

All laptops are made of polycarbon alloy which is a very sturdy and lightweight plastic. Some have carbon fiber alloy, magnesium alloy or brushed aluminum LCD covers or other case parts, but even those cases are made of polycarbon alloy for the rest of the case parts.

I have no way to know how to answer your question about does it feel like plastic...you know...if it walks like a duck... But if you are asking does it feel like some cheap plastic toy...no way...these polycarbon alloys are tough.

 

I understand.
But Like I said, I was not able to configure any dell for teh same price or less of what I wanted in a Sager.

Also, I have a good friend that bought a M170 right before the M1710 replaced it.
It took him exactly a week to realize he got a craptastic machine with craptastic customer service.
He has since returned his Dell M170 for a full refund from Dell.
(He even told me that from the start issues started to the time he finally got his refund was a complete and total pain and took forever.)

Prior to me doing my research and finding out about the other Laptop/PC resellers, I actually tought that Dell and Alienware are the best of teh best.
Man, I was so wrong.

I want to buy not ONLY a good product but also good customer service after I bought it.
Dell, Alienware and a few others was actually worst in customer review aftermarket I have found.
Sager/Clevo is not perfect, but the customer reviews aftermarket I have read mostly about this system is 10x better than the horror stories that I have seen on most Dell's and Alienware.

With that said, I hope you get a good system that will last you a good amount of time.

 

Don't crush a newbie's enthusiasm.

Seriously, I'm not surprised at what you said. I'm sure the big guys like Dell put out alot of crap to their customers. If I'm not satisfied I will get my money back for sure, but as I said earlier, my budget had to be cut (no theft insurance on your vehicle will do that to a poor student). With the e-coupon from this site ($750 off) and Dell's other deals this month, I got all the features I really wanted at a friendly price. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to downplay the Sager. You get the biggest bang for your buck with the Sagers. I just don't have enough buck anymore...

 

paladin or Chaz,
As you guys are VERY knowledgeable on this systems.

I am going to be getting Windows XP MCE 2005 w/ UR2 as the OS for my 5760.
Chose this so I can remotely control the laptop for its media features.

In order to do this, I belive I will need a XP MCE compatible remote.

So I checked Newegg out and I notice 2 very similar remotes for this OS.
Microsoft A9O-00007 WinXP Media Center Infrared Remote Control - OEM = $35.99
or
Microsoft A9O-00018 WinXP Media Center Infrared Remote Control w/ Receiver - OEM = $39.99

So which remote would I need?
Or it does not matter which 1 to get?

Wondering if I really need the receiver as the Sager 5760 has a built-in IR Transceiver.

 

I could give you an answer, but your reseller is really the best place to ask that question. That way they can back up whatever they tell you.

 

Doh
i was hoping for an answer as you guys are the only reseller that offers Windows XP MCE as an OS option for the 5760

<edit>
I contacted DL and they stated either Remotes should work fine.
But they are not sure if the built-in IR Transceiver will automaticly recognize the Remote.
I guess I may have to just wait until I get everything and may possibly have to tweak soemthings.
Worst case scenario, I will have to plug-on the receivr that comes with the remote

Just trying to see if I can just use the built-in IR Transceiver instead of having a receiver plugged in just to use the remote.

 

Hmmm, well please keep in mind that the NP5760 TV Tuner already comes with its own Remote...so you don't need MCE or the MS MCE Remote for that.

Next, the MS MCE Remote will not work to control the NP5760 TV Tuner...

So, were it me, unless I wanted to Remote control other multi-media features in MCE I would stick with XP Home or Professional.

Just my humble opinion.

 

Well I wantd to be able to control the CD/DvD/WMP/etc at least via remote and I think XP MCE should be able to do that w/ a XP MCE compatible remote.
Unless I read it wrong

And as I stated before, I am not plannign to get the internal TV Tuner for the 5760 but may get an external one later on.
A few people actually suggested Hauppage as a good TV Tuner to use.

 

I've only recently begun looking into Sager products, and so far I really like what I see. It is my understanding that the new 5760 is the new 5720. Should there be any concerns about "new model" glitches, bugs, etc. that may need to be worked out after the initial release? I'm referring to how many "new products" can be subject to some user issues or unforeseen problems.

Thanks again.

 

As with any product there is always the possibility that new releases could have unknown issues. However with the NP5760 just being the next generation of a seasoned model the likelyhood of this is much less than with a brand new model.

 

As far as information you might have being a vendor for Sager.. are they going glossy-display only?

I asked them about the 5760 in matte and they said no.

I just don't see the glossy (WUXGA?) as a universal display I can use anywhere (except maybe a dark room).

 

Please call me Donald...all my friends do

Sager has always had Super Clear Glossy screens on their high resolution 17" screens, and it is not likely they will ever have one with a matte screen. The only 17" Sager with a matte screen is the NP5710 with WXGA.

Unfortunately for those of us who do not like the Reflective screens, the matte screens are becoming harder to find regardless of the screen size and resolution.

 

Is there a review of this machine in the works? Just wondering...thanks!