Sager 9262 Ordered - The waiting thread :D

I can't wait until I order mine

 

Ok guys, an update on my order. I ve ordered my Sager 9262 on July 24th With 9800GT SLI, Q9550, and 2x128SSD RAID 0. In a week time a get an email stating that the nvida 9800GTs are gonna be shipping next week, so they wont build my laptop until then. So I ve waited patiently till the next week and what happens!? The SSD drives are not available any more so I have to change my order. Thats what I did I ve changed my order to 3x320gb 7200rpm but that left me with some cash left as the SSD drives were pretty expensive. So I ve upgraded the warranty to 2 years. Still waiting for the laptop. Then the price of the Q9550 is lowered so I have even more credit left. XoticPC is so confused now and they tell me to reorder the whole thing so I get exactly the price I want and the configuration I want. Ofcourse that means another 2 weeks of waiting. So I did as I was told. Now The Q9650 becomes available so sent an email to XoticPC, telling them that I want the update the Q9550 to the Q9650 as I still have plenty of credit left with them. Now I ve called them and asked about the shipping date and they say its either gonna be end of this week or next week. What this means is that I ve waited a month for my laptop and I still dont have it in my hands!!! I am really disappointed. I am able to patiently wait but a whole month!!?? I mean thats not what I signed up for. Month ago there were almost no laptops on the market with good 9800M cards but yesterday I ve went to bestbuy and played around with the Gateway FX laptop and it is brilliant and it costs 1/3 the price of my sager. I really dont know what to do. I think if the laptop wont ship this week I m gonna cancel my order and just buy the gateway - its really a nice piece of equipment. What do u guys think?? How long did u have to wait for your laptop?

P.s.
When I send them an email about the update to the Q9650 I ve got a response after 3 business days!!!

 

why not give sager a call directly and ask them an eta if you order through them since they will be the ones building your system regardless of what sager reseller you go with.

if you are looking at the 9262 you really need to be thinking sli, quad core, and 3 hard drives to utilize it's strengths otherwise another much less expensive laptop will fill your computing needs, like the gateway from best buy.

i highly recommend getting the 3 year warranty with a fully loaded 9262. skimping the 3 year warranty in favor of ssd drives can really turn around and bite you in the end. ssd drives you can always add, but extended warranty you cannot.

 

That sounds like an appealing idea; however, I would guess that Sager schedules all orders, direct and indirect through resellers, based on the time the order was placed or delivered to Sager's offices, so I would worry that cancelling your current order with a reseller and placing a new order with Sager directly would do nothing more than cause you to go to the end of the line for orders waiting to be completed.

 

Well I hope that the 9800GTX SLI wont be resealed while my laptop is being build otherwise I dont know when it will ship to me Meanwhile, somewhere right now GatewayFX users are enjoying their new machines.

 

well, isn't really the resellers' fault for the delay in GPU.. so you can't blame them really..

and that's the frustrating thing about technology.it keeps advancing at an insane pace.. after i've ordered and paid for mine, the E8500 showed up on their website, so i asked if i could swap mine to the E8500, and xoticpc told me i could, but that would delay shipment.. so i din't, because i needed my laptop urgently.. (or suffer withdrawal symptoms ) yep.. then WHILE they were still building my laptop, the 8800m gtx 'disappeared' from their websites and they now offer the 9800m GT.. yep.. and after awhile of messing around with my laptop, the Q9650 came in (i really wanted a quad @ 3.0GHz..).. yeah so you get my point yeah?

if you keep upgrading, its gonna take a pretty long time before the laptop comes.. so you have to know what you really want to do with your 9262.. get a good config, and stick with it ( try not to keep up with the updates before your laptop arrives.. its agonising..).. or you'd be better off buying the gatewayFX cos after you buy it, its yours and that's that.

 

Just got a e-mail from PN
My NP 9262 is coming friday!YEAAAA!
Q9650
9800M GT Sli
4 GB ram
3x200 HD's
Just got off the UPS website and it's in Ontario, California?
Any ways as soon as i get it will post some scores or whatever.
Friday can't come soon enough.
Anybody getting else getting it delivered soon?
****! I know I wont be able to sleep tonight.
I feel like a kid that just got his new bike.
I got to go check the UPS website again............

 

Nice Sir!! I still have to wait a little longer. Post some pics when it finally gets to ya.

 

hoping 3dmark06 and cyrsis wuxga all high benchies!

 

I ve just got a pleasant surprised call from Justin from XoticPC and my 9262 is ready to be shipped today. I ve gor airULTRA overnight delivery so hopefully it ll get to me tomorrow and in the worst case scenario it ll get here on monday. Great news. I am so excited now. The full review is coming very sooon. Ok so here's my another question. What drives should I use for best performance on the 9800GT SLI?? Ofcourse I m gonna do full 3dmark06, pcmark test but I need a help on what drivers should I use We, mac users really dont know the meaning of the word "driver"

 

i'm in the same boat as you, well almost, i don't have tracking # but should have already shipped

but i'll be reviewing more of a workstation 9262, so expect a review geared towards CAD and editing app's

plus plenty of pretty pictures

specs in sig

also just got a lacie 1tb external, seems like the best choice, it has a real modern look to it, nicely proportional black sleek rectangular casing with a blue led horizontal light

 

Yeah I dont have the tracking # either but do hope Justin will mail it to me today.

 

Yes I ve just got a tracking number from XoticPC. The 9262 will be in my hands on monday I am so excited. Gotta get trashed over the weekend so the time will go by faster.

 

Guys its here!!! Its the most beautiful laptop I have ever seen. The full review is coming up later once I ll install all the games. I ve been a mac users for 6 years now so I m not that familiar with Vista. I am downloading 3dmark06 Basic edition ... Is that good?? + I am on stock drivers right now but feel free to advise me some new once. I ve heard lots of good rep of laptopvideo2go drivers. I can post pics if you want or I might just wait for the full written review.

 

Let see some scores for comparisons sake!
I got the same set up the only difference is I have 3x200 HD's.
Congratulations, this is the best laptop I have ever had also.
Now all you need is a laptop cooler,notice how the touch pad gets a little warm.

 

can you run an hd tune for your raid array benchmark?

3dmark06 you will be mid 14k's.

stock drivers are fine no need to update them.

 

I m downloading 3dmark06 right now. Its gonna be done in like 30min, its a 600Mb file. I ve went for the Basic edition? are u guys using the other editions?

 

Ok thanks for the info. I m downloading HDtune right now. I ll post some benchmarks in a sec.

 

Ok here are just some pics I dont want to post more till the review + there is a whole video of me unboxing this beast




Here is the HDTune 2.55 score:



P.S.
Whats the good program to check the CPU, GPu, HDDs temps for Vista?
thx in advance

 

177 MB/sec avg. transfer rate is insane. i do just under 100 with my 2x hdd in raid 0, although i sacrifice that level of performance for manual protection.

 

the ultimate gpu benchmark is crysis (retail and patched game) i am very curious to see what you would get in in all high settings (Stock game) compared to me. i am mainly curious to see the faster cpu compared to mine in this game.

 

I ll be installing Crysis soon. I wan to do 3dmark first, then pcmark and then start with some games

 

3dmark06 is coming soon. Those are my idle temps so far.
Intel Quad: 51C
9800GT1:65C
9800GT2:59C
HwMonitor cant get the HDDs temps some how

 

raid array will not show temps. only my independant drive in the 3rd slot shows a temp reading.

 

Ok, here we go. Everything stock. Stock Drivers, antivirus running in the background. 3dmark06 score of 14544. All nvidia options set to ultra quality.

Some more details:
cpu score: 4500
Sm2.0: 5766
sm3.0 6510

So probably with optimized drivers I can hit 15000 points. Thats a very good score, cant wait too see some OC'd scores. My friend has a quad cpu overclocked to 3.53Ghz and overclocked 8800Ultras in SLI and he gets 17000points so I m pretty happy about my score.

 

not worth wasting time with modified drivers. sager keeps up to date drivers for the 9262.

the only way you can overclock the gpu is through bios reflash which you may want to avoid.

 

Heres the unboxing video I made in like 5mins so the quality is not that good. By the time I ll post a review the quality will be much better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm3q52CS42Y

 

Another small update. Doom3 in 1600x1200 with 16xAA 60fps+. I cant set it to 1920x1200, which is pretty wierd. Next game I was paying was STALKER. 1920x1200 everything set to maximum and I get 60fps+. All those games dont even sweat this system so I think it is time to install crysis. Let u know soon how it performs.

P.S.
Anyone knows why I cant install Doom3 patch on Vista? I click install and nothing happens

 

Nice video!The music was a great touch,all that was missing were some explosions..lol
Do you also find your touch pad getting warm with your 3 HD's?
What took you so long to open the box,when my laptop came in Friday I had it opened in like 5 seconds.Congrats!

 

hey!! gratz on the arrival of your beast looks sweet out of the box heh? haha..

anyways, that's really really nice Scores you have there.. quad 3.0Ghz must rock like mad..

 

thanks leonyeo. IkasV the touchpad does get little worm. its not that uncomfortable to me but I can see your point. + I use external keyboard and ext mouse.

Here s another small video I made of 9262 running the 3dMark06 for the second time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DulvpX8DNnE

 

Nice score with the new drivers!
For some reason I cannot install the updated drivers.
I know about the modded inf. file and all that,but for some reason I cannot add it to the existing driver folder.Any body have an easy step by step guide for installing the new drivers and inf. file.
Sorry I feel stupid for even asking, but I am sort of new to computers and still learning.Everything I do is self taught so please keep it as simple as possible.
And yes I have tried using the step by step guide in the laptopvideo2go guide and for some reason I can't get it to work.Easy way to add to your rep with any help.
On a side note in the Nvidia control panel I just noticed I have two choices in refresh rates, 60 hrtz and 61 hrtz is there any real difference in performance between the two?Also I can't get my numbered keys to work on the side of the keyboard anybody know how to activate them?
Any and all answers would be greatly appreciated.

 

IKAS, hey could you post your temps in idle and stress situations?? I want to compare them to mine. My GPU during long gameplay gets to 77C

 

This was Run at idle speeds
ACPI
Temp - Value - - MIN - - MAX

TMH0 ---- 44 C - 44 C - 44 C
Intel Core 2 Quad
temp
core #0 - 43 C - 42 C - 45 C
core #1 - 39 C - 39 C - 39 C
core #2 - 41 C - 40 C - 44 C
core #3 - 41 C - 40 C - 44 C
GeForce
9800 MGT #1
GPU Score 59 C - 58 C - 59 C
9800 MGT #2
GPU Score 52 C - 52 C - 53 C


That first one was at idle speeds, I am now going to run 3DMARK06 Scores twice to see how toasty it gets, I don't really know if that is going to stress it enough for you but I will give it a try + I am using my laptop know for about 3 hours straight. Sorry I don't have any new games and I am too lazy to replay my old games for a few hours to see how hot it gets this is the best I can do for now, so hold on for a few minutes.
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ACPI
Temp - Value - - MIN - - MAX
TMH0 ---- 49 C - 43 C - 61 C
Intel Core 2 Quad
temp
core #0 - 48 C - 42 C - 61 C
core #1 - 42 C - 39 C - 58 C
core #2 - 46 C - 40 C - 61 C
core #3 - 46 C - 40 C - 62 C
GeForce
9800 MGT #1
GPU Score - 68 C - 58 C - 77 C
9800 MGT #2
GPU Score - 61 C - 52 C - 70 C
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Take those scores any way you want, like I said I am not really sure how accurate these scores would be during really heavy gaming situations so take them with a grain of salt.
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First run got 3DMARK06 Score of 14890 (Highest Score Yet)
SMU 2.0-------------------------- 6002
SMU 3.0-------------------------- 6615
CPU score------------------------ 4523
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Second run in 3DMARK06 Score of 14861
SMU 2.0--------------------------- 5981
SMU 3.0--------------------------- 6591
CPU score------------------------- 4546
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I used CPUID Hardware Monitor and ran both 3DMARK06 scores at 1280x1024 resolution and used performance in the Nvdia control panel.
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Sorry I can't post actual pictures of all my scores,for some reason they looked all messed up but I swear to you these are all 100% facts that I had to type in my self.Again these are all actual scores.
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My GPU also was at 77 C, so they both maxed out the same.The cooling system works real great and reduced the GPU's down to 58 C and 54 C within a few minutes of just regular web surfing, so in conclusion I would not worry about the temps.I am pretty sure they are all tolerable temps + I do have 3 HD's set on RAID 0 but I only have 3 x 200 HD's--7200 so I am not sure if they run any warmer or cooler than yours but I don't see why they would.

 

77c is normal don't worry. with max fans you can reduce that quite a bit if you choose. if you guys want to see how hot the gpu's can get you have to play crysis. 3dmark will not heat up the gpu's that much while crysis will make you hit 90c (with normal fans), no joke.

 

IKAS, what are you using to get at all your temperatures?

 

ok, thanks IKAS. Those are pretty similar scores to mine. I have a noob question though. Can I override the fans manually in the 9262?? I want to check the temps with fans set to max.

 

Yes on page 11 of the owners manual it has all the extra function keys Max Fans is Fn+1.
I used CPUID Hardware Monitor for all my temps sliqsystems.

 

Thanks IKAS. Ok so I ve installed Crysis. This game looks amzaing. I m trying to get it to run on a playable level though. I ve been playing HL2 on 1920x1600 with 16AA at butter smooth 60fps+. Crysis however is very tough. No matter what I do I cant get it 60fps. Also have anyone installed the Ultra Quality mod?? I ve compied the autoexe file and set it high detail as instruced but it is still unplayable. I need that 60fps+ so even when I change one detal option to medium the whole mod just stops working. Anyone has any good info on the Ultra quality mod for Crysis or have tested it?

 

duh crysis on 60 fps?! I think if you manage to get 30 fps minimum youre more than fine.
As far as I know you wont be able to run crysis at reasonable fps as long as you keep the settings high. Not at 1920x1600.

 

Ok, guys I had my 9262 for about 2 weeks now and I have to say, its an amazing laptop. All that time I m reading about alienware problems with m15x and m17x or about Dell problems and my machine is even more powerful and technologically advanced and it works and performs beautifully. Its just perfect, except of my touchpad which doesnt work very well. However I have not even one stuck or dead pixel, no heating problems, fans are always quiet, perfect build quality. Its really too good to be true. I actually can not wait until I ll have to buy a new laptop because it ll be a sager and I can honestly recommend the 9262 to anybody that is still undecided.

 

I agree best laptop I have ever owned hands down.
Runs beautifully,no dead pixels, everything I thought it would be and then some, runs a little warm with my 3 HD's but I have a nice NZXT Cryo LX laptop cooler coming in soon.Very highly recommended.

 

I finally fixed my youtube problem so I can upload some movies.
For anyone that want to see how COD4 performs on the 9262, here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvtYTxdrpiI

 

i had 3 dead pixels w/ mine

but.... it's not that noticeable... just can't use a black background hehe... or any black screen shows them *sigh*


But indeed... 2nd week i've had it... and with some fixed issues here and there... I myself am loving every second I spend time with it

Masta, was just wondering, when you play COD4... do you play MP (might be a stupid question lol) and if you, are you hooked up ethernet? or do you use the wireless? and if you do you use your wireless, do you get random lag spikes?

 

The spikes might be due to your wireless provider.What service do you use?

 

oooo I like that answer....

I use Verizon Wireless... DSL since cable is not available in Downtown Long Beach =(

Oh but wait... well... hmmm... I did try the wireless in another "free wifi" joint... but I guess I can't be sure there either. It was in a cafe... they could be using verizon as well (since it was in LB) and alot of people could be on it as well... *sigh*

Guess I'll wait to see what results this wifi will bring when I move in a couple of weeks

any luck w/ your results when you played via wireless ikas?

 

I need some input.
I am debating on ordering my new "beast" but I'm not sure if the GTX Sli is worth it.

Well im looking at a MAXED 9262:
SAGER NP9262 Ultimate Custom Laptop (Built on Clevo D900C / D901C)
- 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1200)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel Core 2 QUAD Q9650 3.0GHz w/ 12MB L2 Cache - 1333MHz FSB
- SLI ENABLED DUAL (2) 1,024MB (2,048MB TOTAL) PCI-Express nVidia 9800M GTX w/GDDR3 Video Cards (User Upgradeable) - ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to recognize Full 4GB)
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 5400RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 8MB Cache)
- ~ 320GB 5400RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 8MB Cache)
- ~ 320GB 5400RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 8MB Cache)
- Raid 0-Stripe (Combines primary and secondary hard drive)( (Requires 2-3 Identical Sized Hard Drives)
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- None Standard
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (12 Cell)
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Based Toll Free Telephone Tech Support
(Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)

$4,224.01

with the 9800 gt sli it would put me around $3624

I'm not sure..I'm already going 100% b@lls out...is it worth going 110% (GTX sli)

 

I have a very similar specs on order but my SLI wont get here until at least next week so I cant tell u how GTX SLI performs. There is one member with the GTX sli but he is not very active here so we have no benchmarks yet.

 

I just don't know if it is worth the $600 premium over the GT sli.

 

Its definitely not worth it but thats the market. Is it faster?? .. Yes. Is it worth the price?? Never