Sager NP579x Fan Firmware Updated

Thanks Justin

email sent

 

Thanks Justin, I just sent you an email, just hope this new firmware will have a real improvement.
Thanks again for your help in this issue.

 

No problem, have sent the file to a few of you. Please provide your feedback when you can.

 

Simple to have RPM control maybe when they originally installed the hardware, yes, but if the fan just wasn't given functionality to gradually increase RPM, then we're stuck with an on/off control only, and we have to deal. Maybe we'd have to all buy new fans to get gradual RPM increase? I don't know.

I hope they can write firmware that does gradual speedstep.

I completely agree, that's what got us the new fan firmware in the first place. I'm just saying, it's not necessary to complain that the engineers don't understand--they have years of experience, and Clevo wants them to keep us happy.

It's possible to be patient and ask for better firmware at the same time. If they can't gradually increase the RPM on our current fans, then we'll have to wait for NP5794 or something like a "fan purchasing/replacement program."

Also, looking forward to feedback on the new firmware

 

Ditto, I feel that they`re getting close with making the right one. I would`ve sent an email to get the firmware and test it on my 5791, with XP seing as not a lot of people have it.
I regret not leaving Vista for dual boot but I`m sure Vista is more popular for the 579xs....

I am looking forward to seing replies to this thread...I might consider getting the firmware myself, but I am in a remote place right now and at this hour(it`s almost 7pm) I don`t have any places from which to buy a blank cd..

 

I'll be installing it when I get home tonight. Regardless of the results I do appreciate the fact that both Xotic and Sager have been great to deal with throughout this.

 

i just found out the m15x can not output VGA only DVI and HDMI... so looks like im going to get a more powerfull 5793 for the same price...

good luck with the new firmware i hope it fixes it i REALLY like the color ORANGE!

 

>.> there isn't a vga port on the Np5793 either still gonna need a adapter if you want vga.

 

What would be really nice if the fans for both the cpu and the gpu were PWM. I am not sure if clevo would redesign then fan/heatsink though, but it would be nice.

 

really hope this fix works <_> waiting literally on the gun to place my order if it does

 

I`m sorry if some of you new potential buyers got scared of my video. I want to make it clear : IT IS NOT NOISY, albeit a tad more than my other laptop , a nx9420 which has only one fan and which gets pretty hot...the thing runs pretty cool for a gaming laptop,not like the m15x which gets upto 85C in full load and has noisy audible fans .
My sole concern is the fact the the GPU fan kicks in then stops , then repeat ... I want that start/stop recursiveness to be obliterated

I have every faith in the fact that Sager will get the firmware from Clevo eventually...

Everyone planning to buy a 579x should know that this is one the best laptops in its range in terms of performance,price and build quality.
It`s definitely a keeper
I`ll be upgrading to the new casing and the 88M GTX probably sometime after may so until then, I`ll be a pain in the arse regarding the fan noise

 

Wanted to pass along that the new firmware I was speaking of in a prior post in this thread last night is now available on SagerNotebook.com for download.
(It’s version 1.00.07Sf)

 

Just flashed, much better than Sd.

 

Agreed, much better and probably a workable solution for a good number of folks. It also points to the fact that still more can be done to dial down the speed of the GPU fan as it is still the dominant source of noise. Were it not for the fact that this notebook is for both my wife and I this would likely signal the end of my journey. Unfortunately the wife says it's still too loud for her tastes and in this case I'm inclined not to argue.

 

Hey, thank you for that clarification! You know that I have the same HP nx9420, so your opinion is very, very valuable to me. I have to admit that after watching and listening to your video (great job, btw!!) I was a bit concerned about the max noise level. But since you've put it into perspective relative to the 9420 that I'm familiar with, I feel more assured.

Looking forward to your subsequent reviews!

 

ALERT

I am getting a virus warning when downloading that firmware from sager's website - http://64.208.175.44/pages/notebooks/download.cfm?ProductType=5792

Win32:AutoRun-OS [Wrm]

I am using avast and it caught this scanning the file during the download.

 

Tested the new firmware, it seems to work just fine max fan is loud, but medium fan speed seems to work fine.
Edit: I noticed there seem to be separate controls for both fans now. Hitting the fan toggle switch hicks in a second fan, but not sure which one it is.

 

So is the issue of the spinning up and down of the fan fixed? Is it held constant now?

 

The fan does seem to be held constant, medium fan speed sounds the m9750 I had on full blast, but using the fan control it does lock it at a constant speed. It also seems you can force the cpu fan to kick in as well. The laptop is louder than average, but its also seems to run cooler than the average laptop as well .

 

I want to second this, the noise isn't too bad it all, it can just be slightly annoying to hear the GPU fan cycle up somewhat frequently. The casing stays extremely cool, much more so than my old Dell which had nothing like a cutting edge graphics card. I've taken the Sager to class once, and plan to take it again tomorrow because I need it for an exam.

Exams are quiet, so other people will be able to hear the fan, but I'm not too worried about bothering people around me.

And at any rate, I think you have like 15 days to return if it does end up bothering you?

 

The very first firmware, for the most part, resolved this issue. As previously reported the firmware works best under Vista. They are still making some minor adjustments with XP, but the latest firmware that was just released has received favorable feedback so far.

 

I know a you tube video is not exactly a tech test... but would be nice to see the latest firmware running on the 5793 while word processing/web/power point etc with out any loud fan noises...

 

As soon as I get the firmware I`ll post another video about it so that we can compare between the firmware (b) and this last one(f is it?)...

 

Can I ask what about Linux? I'm thinking about buying that laptop but I use only linux. Did you guys tried linux with the newest firmware?
Thanks

 

The firmware is low level... BIOS/CMOS/firmware.

It works in any OS.

 

Here's my late feedback on this new firmware (the one you sent me, Justin, had a CRC error in the rar file, and after that I had no time to do it until tonight)

Well I just flash it a few hours ago and I'm rather satisfied. It's fixing the ramping fan issue, now GPU fan always stays on and, that's really better . The fan speed is the same as in 07Sb (I would just have like little bit less).

I still think some more improvement could be done by having the GPU fan speed gradually increasing with the heat. I was wondering if the harware would allow it, but according to the fact that in realease 07Sd fan speed was much higer, I would say yes. So I just hope Clevo will keep on workin on this.

For myself there's no more issue but just something that can be improved and would make this M570RU the best laptop ever released

Now I wanna say thanks to Clevo/Sager engineers for giving us this workable firmware, and to Justin and Donald for their help in getting this

 

This is really good news. If they are able to have the fan ramp up as the heat goes up, I'll absoultely be sold on the NP5793 once June-July rolls around.

 

Possible issue:

In Fn+3...playing a game my GPU got up to 75oC and the fan never clicked on to 'high'!

I had to set it to Fn+1 and it quickly dropped to the low 60s...

 

I`ll have to look into that. My gpu for some reason seems cooler than all others. Right now, when testing crysis on HIGH, 1024x768( 20+ fps :F) I maxed out 61 C for the GPU and 63C for the CPU....
Auto mode.
Fn+1 would get me about 5C less...

 

Yep you're right !

As my main concerns was having constant and as low as possible noise while doing light work, I didn't noticed that.

But it's true that in Fn+3 mode fans won't go higher when needed (gaming) and especially CPU fan remains on low RPM. This leads to high temperatures. (That was working fine with 07Sb).

So be carefull if you use this firmware, switch to either Auto or Fn+1 mode when gaming.

And we still need a new fix for this from Clevo, just hope it won't break what they made rather well for Fn+3 and light use.

 

Still no news about a new firmware?

 

Aren't you using the latest firmware? From what we have heard so far the latest firmware seemed to received overall positive feedback. Is there something you feel that needs to be adjusted?

 

Yes, and it is something I also mentioned to Allen at Sager.
If I set it to medium mode, the fans will not revert to full speed even if the temps get too high.
I saw 73 C on the CPU and 68C on the GPU which is WAY TOO MUCH for me, since my max temps before that were 5-10C less. And I tested right then if the system was on medium or full, just to make sure, and pressing Fn+1 definitely doubled the fan speed, so the problem is that they stayed at medium even after passing the thresholds...

 

Sager is currently testing a new firmware that is expected to be out this week. It is version # 1.00.07Sg. I will update the thread when it is final.

The reason its taking longer is because Sager is attempting to make changes to auto mode as well.

 

cool..thanks!

 

I kindof like my auto mode just the way it is, thank you very much

I`m kidding. I`d love it if sager could work on replacing the fans , they`re the real issue. I don`t have a problem with running the fans at full speed , if they were quieter...
Maybe the M570TU will be quieter , although I doubt there will be any real difference.
But hey, an aileron can only wish tu turn the plane into the right direction.
Vrrum, vruuum.

 

Ok, I feel REALLY stupid, but I just read back a few pages and just realized something.

Is the whole issue that we've been talking about is the fan on the GPU spinning up and down and now it remains locked? The whole time I thought we were talking about the CPU since I figured you can just control the fan speed from within Rivetuner.

So does Fn +1 and Fn +3 do anything to the CPU fan?

 

Sure, they control both the CPU and GPU fans

 

Don't suppose that firmware will help with lower power states like when on battery will it? If the auto state is fixed to adjust with temperature instead waiting till the temperature spikes, that would really solve all the issues.

 

I remember reading some great ideas some pages back but the best one seemed this one:
1) until 30C keep the laptop at 30% fan speed
2) from 40C raise to 40%
3) from 50% raise to 50%....and so on.

That is how most laptops actually work.

I spent a good 10 mins listening to my NX9420 HP , and when I start the laptop the fan (there`s only 1) start at a very low speed, I`m guessing some 20%.
Although this thing tend to get very hot while gaming and extreme usage, it is quiet . The only time I heard it getting noisier was while playing NFS Carbon. I could try to check the temps on it and compare...
But since the cooling system in the 579x is ages superior to the one in the nx9420, I`m guessing that the noise issue could be taken care of easier this way....

 

I would be more in agreement with the heatsink/fans being reworked, as this will be much more a dramatic change than the firmware update. Of course the firmware update is a cost effective solution on clevo's end than the HF being refitted, but I would gladly pay for it if the solution is much quieter than what is offered.

 

New firmware 1.00.07Sg is available for download on Sager's site

I would just like to know if someone who took care of this issue (Justin, Donald...) got some feedback from Sager on how it works and what it fixes... Justin you said something about the fact their were attempting to change auto mode as well...

I also would like to make sure this new firmware still works with older M570RU, as it only appears in RU2/RU-U sections on Sager's site...

Hope this one will be the right one

 

I just applied the update. Like said earlier; I think the fans in general are noisier than most laptop fans. Anyway, I suppose it does seem to be operating more appropriately. I haven't heard any "ramps" occur yet; we'll see how long that lasts

 

So, I just tried the new firmware, but noticed something strange. Whenever the fans go into a low state (during auto or fn+3), there is a low hum that issues from the right side of the laptop. I'm not talking about the high pitched whine the fans make, but rather a low pitched buzz. If anybody else tries the new firmware, could you post if you get this humming noise.

Thanks,
Dan

 

Yea I hear that too...I think it's the harddrive spinning around? I dunno really...

 

Any chance that buzz could have been there before, but just disguised by the fans? Cookie's suggestion that it might be the hdd is possible - what brand of hdd do you have in the system? I had a Western Digital that I bought last year (and which just died about a month ago ) that made a sort of buzzing-type noise when it was being accessed.

 

Once I get some rest, (just got back from the university) I`ll give this bugger a shot and see how it behaves, and as usual, I will do a movie about it.
For the ones who did install it, how`s it different from .f ?

 

the ramps are gone it seems; thats nice. im not too sure of the buzzing you guys are mentioning. the fans sound like they have always sound imo. the fans do sound a bit more stable, meaning they don't seem to alter speeds as often or as much when multitasking unless its at the low speed. but overall, this update is a lot more progressive than the prior update.

 

The ramping problem was already solved by release .f , the new problem with .f release is that fans won't go to high speed in Fn+3 mode, even if needed (gaming). This is what this .g is supposed to fix...

 

i was still getting ramps in .f; maybe i was not in the right mode but i didnt mess with any of that