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    Sager has confirmed with Clevo that the M860TU will not support 44W+ processors or the 9800M GTX because of the thermal budget!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Donald@Paladin44, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. Heliosvector

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    I have been guaranteed that i will recieve it before the 14th or im getting a refund. Im still not going to hold my breath
     
    Heliosvector, Jun 24, 2008
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  2. armagideontime

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    deathwinger: why are you still convinced that PCMW is being truthful about their launch date? They've had obviously fabricated "setbacks" consistently for almost the past month that they have used as excuses for delaying their launch of the m860tu.
     
    armagideontime, Jun 24, 2008
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  3. Deathwinger

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    Well, I don't know if its my approach or whatnot but since I have ordered to this point, PCMW has not lied to me as yet.

    I heard nothing of three fans, I was told that the date was getting pushed back to around now for production and that the 9800M GTX will not be going in now but it will eventually be in there, their sources told them that it would have been in time for the 9800M GTX launch but now Clevo is playing it safe and holding back for a while.

    The only inconsistency was where I was emailed that the hard drive would be a Western Digital but then a few hours later I was emailed with a correction saying that they stopped using Western Digital and they are using Seagate drives and an apology.

    They've played fair with me so far, and everything that has been said should be going into circulation from this week onwards. If there is any inconsistency, well then shuxx, i'll be waiting til the 14th. :)
     
    Deathwinger, Jun 24, 2008
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  4. Justin@XoticPC

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    Deathwinger, In all fairness hasnt PCMW assured you with prior ship dates that have come and gone? (I could have sworn you were one of the posters on it shipping by 6/14) I think there has been a few un-truthful statements made by them not only to their customers that have relayed the info here but also through their miss-advertisements.
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Jun 24, 2008
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  5. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    They never assured me of those dates, it was only advertised as such and they did inform me of the processor delays when I read up on the Montevina holdback. If anything the most solid information I have gotten and as they have relayed to me is that this week is when production starts, next week is the first line of shipping (my EDGE and the other lucky people) and the rest will be sent out first week in July.

    now if that is not met, I shall take your position, they are possibly untruthful. But i will not cancel my order as it seems besides trying to get pre sales their is nothing wrong with their customer service (as individuals who have purchased from them have voiced) and unless you can match my order with PCMW and give me a price better than 2,917 US, there is no reason for me to cancel.
     
    Deathwinger, Jun 24, 2008
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  6. Justin@XoticPC

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    Again, we will see if their 2nd or 3rd ETA sticks. ;) But then again you might be asking them to match our pricing... :) (if you are still inclined to keep your order where it is)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Jun 24, 2008
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  7. spexc31

    spexc31 Notebook Evangelist

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    oh snap, competitive pricing.
    crossing fingers xotic's prices will be better than pcmw "500 off" memorial day sale...pleassssse.
     
    spexc31, Jun 24, 2008
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  8. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Finally, a build ETA.It was taking too long already...
     
    eleron911, Jun 24, 2008
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  9. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    BOLD words my friend. But they do nothing but make me even more content. :D

    P.S. Keep in mind the actual order for those specs, without warranty would be, 2,917 - 499 = $2,418 US

    Match that and you are a demigod. lol.
     
    Deathwinger, Jun 24, 2008
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  10. eleron911

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    So 2400 with a 650$ discount? still ouch :D
    But then again, 4 Gb DDR3...hmm...
     
    eleron911, Jun 24, 2008
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  11. NCG1589

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    I just stuck with the 2gb. I got mine for 1933 (sans warranty) shipped, i got the 200/7200 hdd (although i want the 320/5400), P9500, 1680x1050 screen, 8800m gtx, vista home premium.
     
    NCG1589, Jun 24, 2008
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  12. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    That's more like it.
    Let's see who`ll review it first :)
     
    eleron911, Jun 24, 2008
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  13. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    I chose not to hold back. I got everything i wanted so I won't be 'wishful' as I own this powerful machine. However, I wanted to stay under the 3k limit, and tada, mission accomplished. :)
     
    Deathwinger, Jun 24, 2008
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  14. eleron911

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    Yes, I see your point now.
    Well, you paid less than I did one year ago for my RU, so you`re good :D
     
    eleron911, Jun 24, 2008
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  15. NCG1589

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    Yeah i figure ill upgrade to 4gb later, just because they are asking so much for the thing. and i couldnt take the extra premium for that HDD. Anyways, i dont plan on getting it from PCMW anyways. I wanna go with xotic. Im just keeping my order with PCMW just in case they got the best price by a mile. I bought my bros laptop from justin and i just cant believe how great it is, how cheap it is, and how good of CC i got.
     
    NCG1589, Jun 24, 2008
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  16. Anomaly10

    Anomaly10 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just checked my order from PCMW and noticed that what was originally an order for a 5400RPM 320GB harddrive has now been upgraded to a 7200RPM 320GB harddrive...with no extra cost :D. This makes me happy.
     
    Anomaly10, Jun 24, 2008
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  17. MKang25

    MKang25 NBR Prisoner

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    Hopefully the 7200rpm doesn't create to much heat in that chasis, with the 1 fan!
     
    MKang25, Jun 24, 2008
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  18. Anomaly10

    Anomaly10 Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah, that could be a possible problem. I ordered with the 9800GT though, are there any speculations on what kind of heat that will produce?
     
    Anomaly10, Jun 24, 2008
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  19. Nirvana

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    ^^^they now put a desktop card in?
     
    Nirvana, Jun 24, 2008
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  20. eleron911

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    He must`ve meant the M GTS.
     
    eleron911, Jun 24, 2008
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  21. Deathwinger

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    9800 M GT is what he meant.

    We are on a notebook forum gentlemen (and ladies), unless specified otherwise, please interpret any GPU mentioned to be the notebook equivalent.
     
    Deathwinger, Jun 24, 2008
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  22. Nirvana

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    ^^^okok, my apology. so after 9800m gtx and 9800m gts, PCMW had finally decided to throw in 9800m GT also?
     
    Nirvana, Jun 25, 2008
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  23. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    They dont have GTS on their page now ........
     
    Vedya, Jun 25, 2008
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  24. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    They also took out the 9800m GTX on their config page.......
     
    Vedya, Jun 25, 2008
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  25. eleron911

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    Looks like they`re finally coming clean :D
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  26. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    what about everyone who PO'ed with the 9800m?
     
    Vedya, Jun 25, 2008
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  27. eleron911

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    They'll either get downgraded to the 8800M GTX or to the ati viper 3870 cards.
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  28. Nirvana

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    so their supplier is not even offering 9800m gts?
     
    Nirvana, Jun 25, 2008
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  29. eleron911

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    Their supplier is Eurocom.
    Whatever they have on their page is what you`ll see in the Edge.
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  30. Donald@Paladin44

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    Coming clean? No, just guessing.

    Clevo has still not confirmed what video card(s) will be available in the Sager NP8660 (M860TU)...they have only confirmed what will NOT be available.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jun 25, 2008
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  31. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    When, by logical deduction, if you remove what is not available, you`re left with what is available :twitcy:
    Good night all.
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  32. auburncoast

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    well i hope they do come clean cause i ordered with the 9800M GTX so now when i complain I better get a good deal on the m570tu lol.
     
    auburncoast, Jun 25, 2008
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  33. Andrew72

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    The FX3600M however is still there. On the HP8710w that board asks for a 135 W power charger. I wonder if they are really going to try it.
     
    Andrew72, Jun 25, 2008
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  34. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Thank you, Dr. Holmes. :rolleyes:
     
    Shyster1, Jun 25, 2008
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  35. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Isn't July 14th Bastille Day? I wonder if there's anything allegorical to be had with that? ;)
     
    Shyster1, Jun 25, 2008
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  36. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Yea, Montevina is actually a secret mind control device created by the frie...sorry french fri...I mean, french people :D
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  37. auburncoast

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    well, they took the 9800GTX down due to contoversy but they(PCMW) still plan on putting it in (I called them) with an ETA of end of july early august...
     
    auburncoast, Jun 25, 2008
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  38. Deodot

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    Yes, let´s do like the brave french did on bastille day and storm the company. Take as many computers we can and use them to decapitate the leaders that we now call resellers.

    As Marie Antoinette would have said today. -"if the people don't have cheap desktops why don't they use their voodoo laptops, with 3 SSD in raid 0, instead?"
     
    Deodot, Jun 25, 2008
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  39. eleron911

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    You guys need to lay off the pot.
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  40. AlienFX

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    wow, that was close, I almost cancel my order... I think they've just won more time lol.... I'm still in then
     
    AlienFX, Jun 25, 2008
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  41. Sp3ctrum

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    lol they they also finally removed the "production/shipping date" of late june/early july

    Any advice on what to say on a angry call to have free upgrade ?? (I would love 4go ram or the 320go
     
    Sp3ctrum, Jun 25, 2008
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  42. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    I called them too no less than 5 minutes ago. They said the same thing. They also said they had ES samples of the chipset and even with the 8800gtx cards + the cpu + the DDR3 memory they are seeing 25% + gains in apps like 3dmark06 (over traditional 8800gtx scores). :eek:

    About the 9800gtx, they said they took it down because of controversy from nvidia but they still are pursuing it. However, they also said that the new ATI card is coming out that's supposed to quash the 9800gtx and they might just offer that instead to ppl who ordered the 9800gtx on an "even exchange basis" or so they said.

    Sounds promising. Either way - look at those 3dmark06 gains! WOW!
     
    DRTH_STi, Jun 25, 2008
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  43. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I call BS. who`s with me? :p
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  44. Nirvana

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    I found that's very interesting.
     
    Nirvana, Jun 25, 2008
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  45. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    lol. seems sketchy I know. But I guess that's all we have to go on for now.
     
    DRTH_STi, Jun 25, 2008
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  46. eleron911

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    Ok,fingers crossed. Hopefully , the ati card will beat nvidia in games too :)
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  47. eleron911

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    Tell you what. My guts say that Ati is bragging based on squat.
    The 9800M GTX will be roughly 15-20% better than the current 8800M GTX, and the viper hd 3970 will probably fit in between the 8800M GTX and GTS.

    9900M GTX, that`s another story. Rumours unconfirmed.
     
    eleron911, Jun 25, 2008
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  48. Nirvana

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    9900m GTX? I don't except to see it in 1-2 years.
     
    Nirvana, Jun 25, 2008
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  49. auburncoast

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    i don't expect to see it at all lol. as for the ati card the 3870 is just one that they are going to offer. the new ati card that is supposed to beat the 9800m gtx is that supposed M89 or w/e they call it. It's not yet posted. lol. I would like to get something out of all of this too.
     
    auburncoast, Jun 25, 2008
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  50. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    the only ati card that can beat a single 9800m GTX is NOT the 3870, but the supposed 3870x2 for laptops... which would be sik if you can have two x2's in a the d901c... :D but we'll see
     
    Doodles, Jun 25, 2008
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