Sager has confirmed with Clevo that the M860TU will not support 44W+ processors or the 9800M GTX because of the thermal budget!

Justin I know you said that donalds post was good but can you also confirm that this terrible terrible news is true?

 

Thats what I was trying to think of. Thanks Donald!

 

I wonder if the 9800M GTX will fit the thermal budget of M750RU-U without downclocking through the BIOS and no chassis revision. Especially when in a lappy already with Xtreme processores.

15" lappies IMHO were never supposed to get high end of the latest tech due to thermal conditions. If you think about it, usually the first ones to get it are the BIG & FAT lappies that have more flexible thermal habilities. Once tech manufacturing processes improve and thermal conditions are lowered then 15" get what they can get.

I suspect thet 15" lappies will get the 9800M GTX, but not for now. This is rev 1 for you ladies & gents (maybe more heatpipes will dot it).

Trance

 

I guess I missed something of the last posts, can it support the P9500 then? There should be no problem for that.

Also the FSB should be 1066 MHz ... or not?

 

Yes montevina has a 1066 FSB and runs ddr3 ram.

 

how about a link to the released information that started this post?

 

^^^ im sure he cant do that due to nda restrictions, unless im wrong. or that they stated it instead on printing it??

 

It is indeed true. We have been informed with the same identical information Donald has posted.

Heliosvector - Zfactor is right on. It is under NDA. You can be assured when Sager confirms information such as this it is accurate and from a credible source.

 

alright, i just wanted to know if the harbenger of bad news (thats what i call paladin from now on) was 100% certain this time.

 

since your here though Justin, did you get any news on the 570ru refresh (570tu) like if it will be out when the M860tu will come out?

if its the same weight as the current model and hopefull has a quieter fan system then i think i will get that instead as long as PCMW give me my refund back easily.

 

^^ That is correct. We expect to see both machines about he same time. (That is once Montevina is released)

The 570TU should be the same as the current 5793 in physical appearance (with exception of the newly added ESATA and HDMI Ports)

We dont have any confirmed info at this point if the cooling system will be revised.

 

i dont suppose i could bribe you with a binding contract to keep me/us in the immediate loop as to when you will have it to order ^_^....... lol

 

Where do i sign?

No bribe needed, will gladly update as more information is provided. You all will be the first to know.

If anyone wants a email on when either the 860TU or 570TU is available please email me below or [email protected]

I believe PowerNotebooks is doing the same.

 

yeah, but i dont like their website. much too lifeless. it needs a bit of creative flash flair to it. no offence donald.

 

so if both Justin and Paladin got this news, then does that mean that PCMW also got this revelation?

 

I am of the opinion that PCMW will some how get this out and working though not officially supported by Clevo.

 

I can tell you. An article appeared in The Inquirer which stated that the QX9300 had moved to a 35W platform, but that claim is dubious at best. No evidence to back it up and it was kinda mentioned in an off-handed way -- not the way to mention such a new development. Plus The Inquirer is known to satirize as well, so it could all just be a joke.

 

I know how many people on here think that PCMW can "just" stick the 9800m gtx in there like many resellers did with quad cores on the d901c, but the problem is, if Clevo doesn't support it, that means no Bios support and *they* need to write the vbios to have it interact correctly with the motherboard, and that is something simply beyond any person or reseller

 

I am one of them.If there is a BIOS for 8800GTX and the 9800GTX is similar,I dnt think it's not very hard.

BTW there should be desktop BIOS from Nvidia atleast to start on.My assumptions.

 

Don't cancell you order yet Auburncoast. No ones sure what's really happening here. Juts wait to get officially arguments from Clevo.

Is the QX9300 45W or 35W?, if the 9800M GTX run cooler than 8800M GTX why M860TU wont support it?, and many more questions CANT be answered now. Just wait a few more days

 

I WILL cancel my order if at last this M860MTU wont support neither 9800M GTX or QUAD QX9300... and thats for sure

 

Maybe not......

SAger has confirmed with Clevo.........

 

Wow, gone for 1 day and there`s already a 200 post thread about this.
PCMW is screwed lol.

 

Ahh, your back!!!

You missed the Croquet Party.......

 

haha vedya. You make me laugh even when i just woke up. AlienFX i won't cancel until I hear from PCMW but it is a little dissappointing to hear all of this.

 

Man, the 860TU is surely the most debated laptop subject of the century :d

 

Ah yes, but this century is still young

 

well, so far from PCMW they have not recieved information as far as the customer service rep is concerned. I also asked who they got the confirmation that the EDGE would support the 9800GTX from and he couldn't say who because he wasn't sure... of course. He said that he was sure the management was in touch with someone at clevo and they would have an announcment soon but it all sounded very uncertain.

 

Somebody quoted the inquirer here is the link :
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/14/intel-updates-gaming-notebooks
(P.S. click the "mock the slow" link on that page that's quite fun)

 

the inquirer is NOT imo the bst choice for reliable info..

 

eleron you missed an amazing "late night talk show" last night. lol

 

Ok,on this thread? I`m digging through it if it`s here,if not,link pls

 

well we played a few games with wads of cash. but mostly cried about the m860TU not having the 9800GTX.

 

starting from post #79

 

It was me, and that was my point. The Inquirer was saying the quadcores would be 35W as opposed to 45W, meaning that if The Inquirer is wrong then the 860 won't be sporting any quadcores

 

where did xephon go by the way? anyone see him around?

 

Donald buried him

 

lol. I wonder how daweism's trip to PCMW went. I think he went today right?

 

Read the whole thread now, and I have to say,no offence to anyone,be it reseller or customer, the 860TU is nothing but another m15x ,but under the Clevo badge.
Honestly,this laptop started off with many promises or "subtle" ones at least,and in one night,what made it the best 15 incher at the moment went down the drain.
And I do need a firm answer,none of that "we`ll see" answers I seem to get all around.
The 579x is useless to me unless it`ll support the 9800M GTX.
If you don`t have a firm answer,don`t post it.

 

agreed....

 

the M860TU has a number of features that differentiates itself from the M15x:
- Montevina platform
- 45nm Penryn CPUs
- up to 8GB DDR3
- CHEAPER !!!

I doubt that will translate into better performance, but its different... and its "bang for the buck" over the M15x

Another thing I have been inquiring is if the notebook can handle a 98xxM card with the fans toggled to max speed. It seems to be on the border with that.

 

what kind of performance increase does 8gb ddr3 show over 4gb ddr2? anyone with any desktop experience between the two?

 

there is little overall performance difference... especially in gaming.

most systems do not even full utilize 4GBs... let alone 8GB
(only 2D/3D pro workstations would use that much memory)

but the CPUs can have a slight performance difference.

 

but i thought the reason systems don't support the full 4gb is because all laptop OS are 32 bit, until now with the 64 bit on the M860TU. My order is in for a m15. the 8gb ram was almost enough to draw me away, but with little performance increase for gaming, i think i'll wait it out and roll the dice for the m15x lottery

no wammy no wammy no wammy!

 

I am sure there are lot of people using 64bit vista on AW m7700

 

Who are you making these inquiries to Gophn?

 

Supporting 4GB+ and Utilizing are different.

Supporting is low level compatibility to the motherboard, then its on the software to support it (like x64 OS)

Utilizing means to make use of that much memory for caching and paging. Most current computers will not even notice a difference (in day to day performance) from 2GB to 4GB because most current games and apps do not need that much memory. Only 2D/3D media rendering/editing will require a lot of memory.

 

(sorry if this has already been asked/answered) what exactly is Wimax? What does it do?

 

Someone (that will get in trouble with NDA for telling me stuff).

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX