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Nah 3.0Ghz is fine enough for me! How stable would it be ? I'll try tomorrow morning myself.... Would this *drastically* reduce my notebook's life ? Should I just test around with this, or keep it so forever ?

 

I switch to 2.9Ghz only when gaming

 

Well, actually I wanted to do some heavy movie encoding... and lots of it... so thought of taking as much gain as I could by OCing my proc. ....

 

Haha, been preaching the dust cleaning thing for far too long not to know when to do it. So I do it monthly..
I don`t think it`s that, all T7500 at stock in ORTHOS hit close to 80C which is WAAAAY too much.
It`s the reason I started UVing...room temp is 20-21C at all times here...
It does make a difference, 45 vs 65 ...less power draw=less heat emission
The Merom are already outdatted...the thing is that the CPU came with AS5, I wonder if I should re-do it...
And the 5791 only lacks the improved heatsink from the 5793...could that really drop the temps by close to 20C? Perhaps...

 

Which, if any, clock generator can I use for my M1530? I tried a few other ones like the one on the G1S, and it gave me PLL ID Error, just like every other one.

 

What's the clock generator for Sager 2090? I get Failed to Run - Step 1 for the T7700.

 

well could the 45 vs 65 really drop it 20c? i doubt it

 

Add the improved heatsink and for sure it will drop it that much.
Remember , the CPU heats and cools down VERY FAST.

 

we'll see.. ill have my lappie back in a few days (hopefully) its got memron T7700 ill test it out with OC's to 2.6,2.7 and 2.8.

also gonna oc the 8800M

 

Thank You! +Rep

Dan

 

I've been using CPUID HW Monitor for a while now... too embarrassed to ask: what is ACPI: THRM? It got to 76°... this high?

 

what happened to it???

 

hehehe... a family member needed it for a buisness trip or somethig lame. Ill have it back June 1st, and im gonna go crazy installing .08s bios, new drivers, ocing!!! its gonna be a interesting day

 

Will this work with T9500?

 

yes it is coming up

 

That's the thermal zone ACPI device for your system, which is part of the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface standard for controlling your system that permits the temperature of the CPU to be monitored.

 

wow you are very nice.. lol no one leaves the house with mine unless its me..

 

?why would it be hotter than my cpu then?
hope this is not a dumb question... maybe because it is in the path of dissipated heat?

 

No such thing as a dumb question - just dumb answers, and unfortunately, I have to leave my answer at the "dumb" stage 'cause I don't really know all of the intricacies of ACPI, and it's way past my bed-time right now. From what I can gather quickly from the ACPI specs, under ACPI you can define a so-called thermal-zone (which is a device object) and then read certain data from it - so it probably isn't necessarily just the physical CPU, but may be some sort of an overall thermal reading for the system - sort of a max threshhold past which the system starts throttling itself down regardless of what the specific source of the excess heat is.

Hopefully someone'll come along with a less dumb answer.

 

imo always a good idea to check the heatsink for any problems. mine would not sit flat no matter what on the die when i got it. i had to flatten it a bit and my temps dropped by a lot.. it was sorta bowed in the middle, i used a small glass square i found and light pressure till i could put a straight razor on it and not see the light any more.. may not be a problem but def worth looking at..

 

I have to wait for an X7900 version to come out

 

Audigy, I had my 8800m overclocked tonight As you might already know that I was able to ran my processor at 2.9Ghz steadily, but now if I run them both together for 3dmark or any games, the screen goes like this: (whole system frozen)


I was originally thinking internal power supply, but since people are even using x9000, we can cross out this reason. what do you think?

 

I might be wrong but i think you are right, that has nothing to do with internal power supply, because the overclock to your CPU and GPU isn´t drawing more power than at stock (unless you made any kind of voltmod).

 

Slightly offtopic, but I dont understand it...

Is this correct? (from another forum)

"the stock bus speed on a Q6600 is 266x4 = 1066mhz qdr fsb.

MEMORY! DDR is "Double Data Rate" meaning that is runs a twice the speed of your FSB. so if your FSB is only 266, your memory is only running at 533. this means to even get the FULL potential out of your DDR800 you would want your FSB set to 400. of course setting the FSB to 400 with the 9 multiplier is going to give you 3.6GHZ, which is a bold OC for many. So what you will want to do is lower that multiplier down to like a 7 which will give you 2.8GHZ or you can do an 8, which will give you 3.2GHZ."

Does this mean that in order to utilize 667mhz DDR2 ram fully I would need a Front Side Bus of 333.5 mhz? - Then I would have to diasable the top multipliers to stop my X9000 from killing itself @ 4.7 Ghz.

Would someone please comment on this? Say what they think and if it would even work.

 

That problem is the one that is been for a wile on my head... I´ve thinked over and over, on what can be the cause of this...

As you can see, this is a old matter, some topics were made about it in the past( Freezing when OC CPU+GPU on M570ru), with no conclusion about what was the cause of all this.

It´s happening on my 8700M GT too... but I don´t know why... without OC on my card I can run at 2.9Ghz without any problems. But if I try to run it even at 2500Mhz with my card overclocked, it just hangs... WTF?

So far the best one is power related problems... maybe the internal power that is regulated from the board MOSFETs, are used to feed both the CPU and MXM slot. But then, why my 8700M GT wich consumes much less power than an 8800M GTX have this problem? Maybe my 8700M GT on an overclocked state can consume as much power as an OCed 8800M GTX?


Another one, wich is the one I´m thinking, is briedging problems over the MXM-IV(III) interface on an overclocked state, both in the card and PCI-E.

I searched a lot about this, readed lot´s of articles and such, and I came to a conclusion that the chipset PM965 doesn´t have PCI lock or also called PCI-E asynchronous ratio.

On an normal desktop PCI-E x16 slot, the PCI-E freqs can be rised to about 125Mhz (+25% above normal) without any problems. It´s a know matter that ATI cards can handle higher PCI-E freqs better than nVidia ones.

So if I rise my T7700 from 2400 to 2500, the PCI-E freq will rise to 104,5Mhz(1/2 the FSB rise), thats only 4,5Mhz rise, so it should not be a problem. And here enters the briedging problems over the MXM-IV(III) interface teory. But another problem comes with the pack... we can´t do anything about it... it´s interface fisicaly related, an design flaw... only Clevo can do something about it.

So the best way is use the OC on the start, then if you need to game, and want to OC your card, just run the AutoTool OC OFF( http://audigyapps.com.sapo.pt/SetFSBAutoTool_OCoff.rar), wich will return your CPU to stock values. If you need to OC again then run the OC tool with your desired overclock.


I thinked that the new RU-U board was fixed this by somehow... but I guess I´m wrong again...

 

Hi falcon2claw,

Nop, for an example, an PC-6400 DDR2 SDRAM module will run at 800Mhz of DDR speed and 400Mhz of real speed. DDR does not have do to anything with the FSB.

By an engineer point:

The other thing here are the FSB ratios. It´s better for synchronized transmitions between your memory <-> FSB <-> CPU, that you keep an 1:1 FSB/SDRAM ratio. With an asynchronous ratio like 3:4, your memory will be faster than your FSB, so it will need to wait for the FSB to came along and then send the data for your CPU.

But you will not lose anything running it on an asynchronous ratio, will be just the same as an synchronized one in terms of performance. In some extreme overclock cases, an 1:1 ratio can give more stability on the overclock. But thats it...

 

so are u saying we can overclock only 1 at a time? either the CPU or the Graphics card? but not both at the same time?

 

Unfortunately yes... you can always overclock your CPU less, and try overclock more the graphics card.

I´m buying one all cooper chipset cooler to change the aluminum one on the M570RU, maybe it will help get a stable OC on both CPU-GPU:



The hole to hole distance in this heatsink is 54.6mm and 59mm with only 1cm high, so it will fit on M570RU´s chassis.

 

T9300 @ 3.0 GHz: Torture Test ran 3 hours, 33 minutes 18 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.



3.1 gives a Hardware Failure almost directly when the test is started so I think I'll stay to 3.0, thank you Audigy!

 

@ audigy

Thats awesome I didnt even think replacing heatsinks is possible, but isnt this one a little small? also how would you attach it so that connects to the fans, and on which unit (CPU or GPU) would it go?
Or maybe I am misunderstanding at that pink thing only goes on top of the actual heatsink connected to the fans?

I find this really interesting, would love to hear more about heatsink mods in this chassis, and how it works out for you

Edit: aha I see its meant for desktop northbridges, but still, where would you put it on the M570RU?

 

damn that sucks, now i dont know wether i should OC my CPU or flash my GPU with an OC.

 

I'm getting this error when I try to run 3DMark:



Do you know how this comes?

 

I had that too. Some few months ago. I changed the driver ASAP...and updated my DirectX.

 

Ok gonna try the new one from sager

 

And don`t forget to update your DirectX !

 

Ok thank you, I'm getting 9789 3DMarks, pretty good I guess?

 

Indeed it is...with a gpu OC you`d hit close to 11k ....

 

Audigy said you can only OC one, not both so that's not possible but hey I'm satisfied ^^

 

New problem...



I get this when playing some TMNF (maybe 10 minutes...)

 

do you think I should OC the CPU instead of GPU then?

 

The GPU is the one that will hold the best results in gaming...
Unless you need a lot of CPU power for RTS games...

 

There is a new article on Guru3D about CPU scaling in games with dual & quad core processors. Recomended!

Full article: http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-scaling-in-games-with-quad-core-processors

If you overclock the GPU you gain more on 3D performance. If you overclock the CPU you gain more overall system performance, better FPS on games that use ageia physics or any other physics processing, better loading times(because the overclocked system ram).

You can try overclock your CPU less, and overclock the GPU at the same time to see if it works... Try 2.5 on your T8300 as a starting point...

 

Audigy, what do you think if I OC my CPU but also increase/minus voltage? do you think I can avoid the issue?

 

I personally OC both, just the higher I clock the gpu, the less OC i get on the cpu

 

how you did that theriko? I can't even push to 2.5ghz

 

It will not completely avoid this issue, I´ve tried it myself on my T7700... but it can help a bit... Try it, maybe can help on your case...

You can try overclock your CPU less, and overclock the GPU at the same time to see if it works... Try 2.5 on your T8300 as a starting point...

 

notice the pci bus is at 21???? why not 32 as it normally should be... didnt make sense to me

 

Well i´ve settled at leaving my T7500 at 2.4ghz at 1.125v (11x), 0.9250v (6x) and 0.850v (superflm 6x). Temps at idle are the same as non-oc with undervolting, and with orthos they´re almost (+1/2c) the same as non-oc with undervolting....i just find it odd that raising the clock to 2.5ghz my undervolt margin becomes very narrow in way that running orthos raises my max temps by 7/8c compared to 2.4ghz....so i think it´s best to leave it at 2.4ghz.

 

Audigy, thanks for the head up but no need to repeat the message twice. lol I tried 2.5 without succeed.

 

Ups sry (Ctrl + V)

For me it´s a briedging problem over the MXM-IV(III) interface on an overclocked state, both in the card and PCI-E. There is not problem OCing the CPU, and there is proves that the chipset can handle it... so the problem must be on the PCI-E and the MXM interface...

Unfortunetly only Clevo can fix this... maybe with an BIOS update or something... on the worst case senario, it´s a design flaw, inherent to the interface.

Let´s hope not...