Some Info about W860CU (Pic inside)

yes, completely agree with the price of core i7 820, but the two images are of different scale, if you adjust the scale of the bottom image you will notice that those Arrandales will be issued at the same time (Q1 2010) (4 blocks).

 

Ah, I see now, thanks!

 

Eurocom just finished up their configurator for the new W870CU Cheetah:
https://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,208,0).

 

how does the mobile i7 cpu of this laptop compare to the desktop i7 cpu of say the d900f ???

2.0 gig tops ... that isnt so fast ???

the lower ranged i7 of the d900f at 2.66 gig would easily beat even the 2.0 gig fastest i7 mobile ???!!!!

wouldnt it ???

 

True, but these mobile i7's pack only a TDP level that's around a third to what those desktop behemoths require. The power input-to-output ratio on the mobile i7's is much better. They're much more effieicent.

 

In english?

 

He's saying that the desktop i7's have a TDP output of 130W compared to <=55W on the mobile i7's. The mobile i7's derived from their desktop counterparts and Intel had much more time to develop and streamline the architecture so that it is very efficient. Yes, the mobile i7's are slower, but they consume far less power and produce far less heat.

Compared to the Core 2 CPU's, the i7 is hotter as Intel has decided to integrate the memory controller and the northbridge onto the CPU. This means that motherboards will be smaller, and the heatsink needed for the northbridge on the previous generation CPU's can be integrated into making a beefier CPU heatsink.

 

Thanks for the save SS, when you're in a rush to get out of the door and your trying to tackle a sentence like that then bad grammer is gonna be abound.

 

More efficient as in faster? I recognize your greatness when it comes to the details, but still, a little difficult to to understand..

 

efficient in terms of architecture and power usage. the slowest desktop i7 processor, the 920, runs at 2.66ghz and has a tpd of 130W. the fastest mobile i7 is 2.0ghz and has a tdp of 55W. so if you look at it, the mobile i7 are designed pretty well.

 

the lower ranged i7 920? What the hell man! I have that in my desktop and this thing slaughters the entire creative suite....


it is not lower ranged! Argh!

 

Ok to put it as simple as possible...

If you did a ratio of CPU power/electrical power drain", the mobile i7 would be better than the desktop i7 as it consumes less electrical power. Sure, it also packs less punch, but it's a lot less draining on the laptop's power supply.

 

fine its better then what we have now for cheaper price

 

Eurocom lets you swap the 280M in the 870CU with a 260M, knocking the price down by a respectable ~$170.

 

Then look at how they're sticking you on the primary and secondary HDD prices. No props from me.

 

Eurocom has always been overpriced. You can make them price match though.

Lots of Canadians who wanted Clevos without having to import made Eurocom price match the models they had.

 

Price match who? Eurocom is the only Canadian reseller no?

 

They will price match a US dealer

 

Are you kidding? They match U.S. prices with or without conversion? In some cases that's about a thousand bucks cheaper. How do you get them to price match? Just spec a system with Xotic, call Eurocom and ask for a match?

 

Facepalm.jpg.

 

Pretty much.

 

So what is the TDP of a desktop i7 @ 2.0GHz? 55W?

 

You forgot the part where they say that they can't give you that price

You can't make that calcul, but if there was a desktop i7 clocked at 2.0ghz, it would probably be in the 80-90W TDP range minimum.

 

I know they pricematch US resellers; however, I think they apply exchange rate(which should not really impact in this case since it's like 1$CAD=0.92$US), but you'd have to check with them.

They're pretty easy on the pricematching considering as you said, they're one of the few companies who sell Clevos in Canada(all of the ones in Canada overprice anyways).

 

In the Italian Cizmo website the CX51i is still displayed and available to be bought (with 29th of September shipping date).

I just checked the other websites and the notebook it's also in the Spanish website, but in any of the other ones...

I also found out that it's cheaper than the CX51 (with old t6400 Core 2 Duo CPU but same GTX 260M)...do any of you know why??

 

So from what know guys/girls hows this fair against the 8662 so far? Planing on getting a np8662 in the end of oct. Any idea the release date? i know its probably not announced but any idea?

 

@ rivehn

I'm planning on getting a notebook in the middle of oct, so I collected around many information.

This notebook will be one of the first with a Core i7 (a quad core that can turn off 1/3 cores and overclock the other ones), so nobody know certainly about the benchmarks against a Core 2 Duo. It should be better, but we don't know how much...

They will have the same videoboard (GTX 260M) so there will not be a huge difference in games. Rumors that it will be possible to upgrade this one to 280M, also thanks to the double heatsink system.

In one reseller, the W860CU is slightly cheaper than the NP8662 with the same configuration, and in another one the W860CU is 250Euro more expensive (I can give u the price for each i7 CPU if u are interested). But both those resellers are Italian (or I checked the Italian website), and I don't really trust them

In europe it was announced to be released the 29th of September, but there rumors it'll be delayed.

Hope I was usefull, see yah...

 

If you could i'd love to see the i7 cpus. Also if you don't mind can you list the benefits this W860CU will have the 8662? i was going to get the cpu listed in my sig but are these ones better and how? sry im a nub at cpu stuff.

 

The W8060CU will be superior in everything except pricing. Yes the CPUs are better.

If you can wait, do it.

 

what kind of pricing are we looking at for this new one?


I was planing on getting the 8662 for WOW how long would this laptop last me? acouple years?

 

If it's for WOW, you can use the 8662 for decades ...

 

For what i see, the P9700 have the same price of the Core-i7-720QM, so if you want better performance, wait for W860...

@Kevin_Jack2.0

I think that the design of the 8662 is prettyer than the W860...but this is subjective, right???

I also know that resolution will be 1600X900 (HD+) or 1.366x768 (HD) as people were not sure...

The notebook is made in alluminium and ABS , while the hand resting place is made in fake skin, the dimension 374x263x42mm, the weight is 2.9kg without battery and 3.2kg with 8-cell battery.

 

And I quote myself:

 

Thank you very much think i'm going to stick with the 8662. With everything payed and in canadian it comes to 2k. Alot of money for me atm so i think i'll grab that.

Anyone know what price range w860cu will be?

 

The same price range of the 8662.

 

Please look at my post above yours.

Duane

 

Oh wow sry i didn't see it when i posted.



Anyone know when it will be released? Since WOW can play easly and its cheaper to get 8662 i'm going to grab that.

Thanks everyone

 

Do we have any dimensions on this thing yet?

 

374 x 263.5 x 42mm; approx. 3.3 kg with ODD and battery

 

That's actually not a bad size. It's looks like it's still quite portable.

 

Thanks for the info.

However, I'd like to know what is the height referring to, is it an average, front height, or back height?

 

The height is always referred as the maximum of all the notebook.

It's usually in the back if the notebook is well built; anyway check the pictures in the first page...

 

Santech.it have this notebook for pre-order also. Nothing new, just a second source if you want to double-check specs or dimensions etc.
http://www.santech.it/shop/articoli.aspx?idArt=39

As before, i'd say to US guys that a direct € to $ conversion will not give you an accurate price. A better way to guage it is to look at Santech's M860TU. The barebones W860CU is only €50 more than the M860TU (€697 vs €649), and the lowest i7-720QM is the same as the Q9000 (+€397 vs +€390).

So it really does seem like this machine will end up similarly priced to a M860TU with Q9000.

 

What is the size of the M860?

 

Aren't you reading the whole thread?

 

Rhetorical question does`nt deserve an answer.

Just wanted to know the size of my laptop so I can compare to the W860CU.

Never mind, googled it.

 

You mean so that you can compare to the M860TU.

It's just that, that was asked several times in the same thread.

Don't get angry.

 

The things I wish most for this notebook are the "overclockability" and a non-glare screen <3 !!!

 

Anyone know of any companies taking pre-orders in the US of A?

 

the sager resellers usually wait till they have more substantial confirmation (and for the NDA's to end...)