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It's not 2x, but it's hell of a lot more than 25%. The numbers don't lie. It's a 15% downclocked desktop 7870, which itself is 2x faster than the 6990M.

 

Look in the M18x benching thread and you'll find buncha owners there with 4.5ghz+ clocks. I had a [email protected] for quite some time but never really needed that much power so it was sold.

As for the fanboism, - if the specs are true, that's the level of performance we can expect.

 

The 3DMark benchmarks provide a complete score and also a separate GPU score that isn't affected by the CPU. The GPU score is what I always look for.

 

That's what I am trying to say.

 

That was no accident.

 

I know, I just said it much better hehehehe

Im still waiting for some people witha 7870 to post some gaming results + benchmarks on a underclocked 7870 to give us some guesstimates

 

I sure hope it wasn't. Even if it were the same price as the 675, it would be a complete steal.

 

Still, you only perform better in the same TDP by either using a better process or a better architecture. AMD and nVidia did both this time, which is why I think people are so optimistic, even though the desktop numbers are already there to look at.

 

nope, dual core's gpu score often -5~15% compare to quad core

 

oh snap things got serious

 

That seems hard to believe. Looking through the numbers on a GTX 560M at notebookcheck, the 3DMark 11 GPU scores seem to be about the same across different CPUs, with significant differences being due to different drivers. Otherwise, they're basically within the margin of error. It's only in the complete score that the dual-core definitely lags behind.

 

It is pretty much confirmed that the 7970m is cheaper than the GTX 675m. You can now configure an alienware m17x with the 7970m on the Canada official website, and it's $50 cheaper than the 675m =) For clevo laptops I think the price difference will be the same.

Check it out: The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

 

If the specs are real, performance will be exactly what the specs say it should be.

Arguing otherwise "just because" is nonsensical. When have the specs ever not dictated the performance? That's Twilight Zone thinking, man.

If you want to temper your own personal expectations, so as to not be disappointed, be more transparent with your feelings. We're all in this tech obsession support group together. We no longer sacrifice those who fear.

 

Seems like the 7970M has a tentative release date of the 24th. Still speculation though.

AMD Radeon HD 7970M to Launch on April 24 by VR-Zone.com

 

Huh thats an interesting date...... I've heard that date before...

*wanders away*

 

Best part:

Trinity + Southern Islands, oh man...

 

Interesting... This summer's shaping up to be a great one with both major gpu and video game releases. Too bad I have 7 credits of summer courses...

 

I see what you did there...

 

You really are brutal on us.

Now, in the most general of terms, say something new was to come out and lots of people wanted it. If I was to place an order and gamble that the very desirable thing would come out, and place an order the day before, would I get priority in queue if I swapped my order?

EDIT: NVM the previous edit.

 

opps, i should have mention "bottleneck"
560m running 3dm11 for exp, 560m is absloutly bottleneck, so whatever dual/quad/hexa/octal core cpu with it, gpu test minimum difference(ofcourse physic/combined will up)
but gtx680 quad sli running 3dm11, old i7 920 will lack far behined i7 3960x

 

In that case, I don't think there are any problems with comparing mobile GPUs to their desktop versions. Review sites tend to have very powerful CPUs in their test machines so the 7870, for instance, isn't bottlenecked and we can derive the 7970M's performance from that.

 

Let's take the case of the 8800 GTX then.
My 280M scores around 5400 GPU points in Vantage using the 600Mhz on the core and 900 Mhz on the memory.
If you browse Vantage results on 3dmark's website, you can find that the desktop 8800 GTX which has the same specifications, uses similar clocks and with a similar CPU (Q6600) scores around 6500 GPU points in Vantage.
Here are some examples:
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX video card benchmark result - Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600,ASUSTeK Computer INC. StrikerExtreme score: P7985 3DMarks
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX video card benchmark result - Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600,Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. EP45-DQ6 score: P7698 3DMarks
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX video card benchmark result - Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600,ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5N32-E SLI PLUS score: P8125 3DMarks

That's a 20% difference in performance despite the fact that specs are the same.

 

7990.........

 

You aren't even comparing your card to the correct graphics core. The 8800's G80 has a 384 bit bus for one thing. Your card is an underclocked 9800 GTX+ (G92b core).

 

That's because I can't compare the same exact graphics core since there is not data to use for comparison.
Regardless, they have the same specs and my point is that specs alone don't necessarily mean you will have the same performance as a desktop card.

On the other hand, if you admit that the core used for the 7970M is the same as for the 7870 and given that the 7870 is working at 1000 MHz while the 7970M is working at 850 MHz, one can expect around 15-20% lower performance in comparison with the desktop card. This would put the 7970M at around 20000-20500 Gpu vantage points right?
Assuming the optimistic scenario in which the move to the 28nm process has lead to an increase of 35% in performance at the same TDP (based on how 6000 and 7000 series work at the same TDP) and given that the 6990M was around 95W and scored about 13300 GPU vantage points. Then the successor of the 6990M at 100W should score around 19000 GPU points.
So the specs on Alienware's website are plausible.

 

Orders are are built in the order they are received (Except for orders that have been paid for to be rushed, and orders that we have been otherwise bribed to get done sooner)

So your line of thinking would be correct =)

And we try not to be brutal Just understand we can't always just come out and say things, it makes the lawyers angry.

 

I tend to say you'are wrong:
- When I overclocked my 580M to 560ti clocks (823/995) I perform exactly the way a 560ti does, 3dmark11 and Vantage.

The 7970M should exactly perform like a 7870 @ 850/1200 !

 

Damn lawyers haha, the vampires of daylight !

 

Oh lawd!

Completely hypothetical question for you. If someone were to have a Pollux 1612 on preorder w/ Ivy Bridge and 675m, could they modify that order to include the 7970m instead, assuming that the 7970m is released around the date mentioned? Completely hypothetical question

 

I'd imagine you should still be able to change it.

 

Numbers don't like, but numbers can be fudg and manipulated to lie......or show improvement increases that the actual end user won't actually see.

When the new mobile cards are out and real world benchmarks are in from real users we shall revisit this thread. Ill make a point of it. My real world guesstimate is about 25-30% at best, maybe on a few optimized games the increase is a bit better, but overall I bet we are looking at the 25% range at best.

 

LOL, this means it will be sold to 3rd party companies starting this day. In reality it probably means that it will be at LEAST a few months before the cards are ordered, then shipped to the mfg's and then assembled for their respective laptops and available to the public. SO don't expect to see the actual laptops that have the cards till the middle of summer at the earliest.

 

What are you talking about? The card is already orderable through Dell (M17x). It should be added to the config pages in 2-3 days and shipping ETA's are early May.

And here is a fact, lol. 5400 GPU score in 3Dmark 11 that's with a 2 year old CPU. Almost 2x performance increase, hehe

 

AMD brought their A game, can't wait to see if Nvidia does the same. Unfortunately for Nvidia, we might all have 7970Ms before they get to the party.

 

Considering they just posted a 590 million dollar loss, I'd hope they would bring their A game.

 

Bro I ordered and payd my clevo with 7970M on 9 of April, should get at the end of the month

 

I'm glad they had huge loses, now they are in a hurry to release new products and probably for cheaper than originally planned. I wonder how AMD Trinity will perform compared to ivy bridge , hopefully similar for way cheaper, I want to support AMD so Intel has to lower their prices lol. A Trinity CPU plus 7970 would probably save a good 100 to 200 bucks compared to nvidia and Intel equivalents. Giving me more money for an SSD or 95 gamut screen. Hope this all comes out for clevos next week.

 

The 7970 is 150 less than the 675 on AW.

I would assume it will be much greater difference between the 7970 and the 680.

If the 7970 performs even closely as expected can't see how nvidia is going to catch up.

 

Yeah that made me wonder.....

 

150 less than 675? That means its 50 less than a 670m , but about 50 percent more powerful ? I hope the leaked specs and price are correct, sli ing these would be so killer ha. Just one is good for me though, should Max everything easily . This will save me 50 bucks compared to a 670, so awesome. Now I'll spend that savings on SSD and or screen upgrade. Really want a 240 or 256GB SSD . Would complete the beast ha

 

I know most of which Clevo lines that are getting the 7970m, but which of them will also support Trinity? I agree that getting 7970m/Trinity would save some money for other components and you'd still get more than enough performance.

 

I think Trinity uses the same socket as Ivy

 

Someone in the AW forums put a 7970 in a m15x. Benchmarks 3dmark11 5381. Here

Comparison 675 3dmark11 3274.

 

holy moly seriously ? That's a 61 percent increase . What about gaming performance ? Fps on BF3 on all ultra 1080p ? Should pull close to 50 fps ultra if it's really this much more powerful . This is gtx 560 desktop territory . Awesome. I'm Definitely getting one when they release next week. P150em with ivy 3610, 7970m, 8GB RAM ,240GB SSD maybe hybrid drive instead. Really wish seagate would make a 750GB hybrid with 16GB cache instead of 8GB cache. I hope 7970m is really cheaper than 675m , 150 bucks less is hard to beleive though

 

not at all

 

As expected the 7970M gets 5300+ in 3DMark 11 which is 60% higher than the 6990M. So, are there any more non-believers?

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) CPU X 920 @ 2.00GHz,Alienware score: P5414 3DMarks

 

Get a 750 GB HDD and 32 GB mSATA and use Intel SRT?

 

Yeah but its expensive, I'd rather have a cache like crucial adrenaline 50gb cache, that might not be bad with a 500GB or 750GB . But a 240GB SSD would be the best they are just so over priced

 

WHERE DID YOU ORDER IT FROM. I WANT IN.

 

Yea you would be able to change it.